Yikes, Israel might have just attacked Iran!

[SomeWomanSomewhere]

This is NOT GOOD news!

Israel has declared a state of emergency, at least six explosions in Tehran.

This is seriously unfunny!

Israel has ZERO strategic depth - Iran has plenty. Nukes: see above, reverse!

May I introduce you to Owen Jones.

Did you buy into that war, at the time? I hope you're not a Blairite.

... except the ICJ finding that Israel was in violation of CERD Art. 3 has nothing to do with the South Africa case at all but comes out of the 2024 advisory opinion on the legal consequences of the occupation - which in its turn was triggered not by a member state but by a UNGA resolution. So this claim makes precisely zero sense.

@EasternStandard i don’t buy into ANY war, as it is always the innocent that suffer the most.

what I meant to imply with my post is - they say Iran is going to nuke Israel hence why Israel threw rhe first stone. I said, do you mean like Iraq was supposed to have weapons of mass destruction and so was used as an excuse to obliterate the country?

let’s be honest here- it gets the USA backing because it’s all to do with money . The Middle East is sat on oil and the us needs control of it. It’s gets Israel to do its dirty work.

don't bring CND into this as some sort of positive influence . They were insisting on unilateral disarmament, which would have left us completely up the spout, and the policy divided labour and lost loads of seats in the 1983 and 1987 election. They have now simply descended into the anti-Israel obsession of the far-left.

That was me who responded to you. If you didn't believe Iraq had WOMD, then you don't believe rules of engagement were followed. So why do you find it hard to believe that Iran still doesn't have an axe to grind with the west and are on a mission to destroy anyone in its path - starting with Israel.

You are confused. South Africa are not pushing 'apartheid'. The ICJ have already ruled, there is nothing to 'push'.

Little skirmishes. No ballistic missile attacks or sending 200 drones like Iran did last October.
No funding terror groups to attack South Korea.

The Islamist extremism is the issue. Iran has vowed to destroy Israel. Israel cannot take that risk.
The Iranians even have a clock ticking down to the destruction of Israel.

How inconvenient of Israel to still be standing after all the shit she's had thrown at her.

Starmer: UK has ‘grave concerns’ about Iran’s nuclear programme

Sir Keir Stamer has backed Israeli strikes against Iran and said the UK has “grave concerns” about Tehran’s nuclear programme.

Speaking to Bloomberg after Israel’s attacks, the Prime Minister said: “We’ve long held concerns, grave concerns, about Iran’s nuclear programme, and we absolutely recognise Israel’s right to self defence.”

But the Prime Minister also said he was “very concerned” about escalation of tensions in the Middle East, adding: “which is why, along with Germany and France, we’re really clear that de-escalation is what is needed here.”

The leaders of the UK, France and Germany earlier called for all sides to refrain from escalation.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/13/israel-attacks-iran-latest-news-nuclear-sites-war/

Trump’s warning to Iran: Make a deal or face slaughter

Donald Trump has told Iran to make a deal over its nuclear programme or there will be “nothing left” of the country.

The US president warned there would be “slaughter” if the regime refused to return to the table.

“There has already been great death and destruction, but there is still time to make this slaughter, with the next already planned attacks being even more brutal, come to an end,” he wrote on his Truth Social platform.

Mr Trump, who had prior knowledge of ‘Operation Rising Lion’, blamed the attacks on Iran stalling negotiations aimed at preventing the weaponisation of its nuclear programme.

“I gave Iran chance after chance to make a deal...they just couldn’t get it done,” he said.

Reeling from the attack, Tehran has pulled out of the next round of talks with the US scheduled for Sunday.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/13/israel-attacks-iran-latest-news-nuclear-sites-war/

US moving warships to help protect Israel

The US is positioning its warships and other military assets in the Middle East to protect Israel and American troops, officials have said.

The U.S.S. Thomas Hudner naval destroyer was directed to move to the eastern Mediterranean, while a second destroyer is expected to follow, the New York Times reported.

An additional fighter aircraft is also expected to arrive in the region soon.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/13/israel-attacks-iran-latest-news-nuclear-sites-war/

I’m not aware that Iran has responded in any ‘military’ way so far.
They have threatened to.

Strikes from Israel continue. Targeting seems to be accurate according to the news although there have been civilian losses.
Hoping this doesn’t descend into more civilian loss of life.

Twiglets
I’ve been trying to find what, if anything, the UK are doing given our military bases not that far away.
Have you seen anything.

Not giving you homework promise I’ve tried to look myself

I haven't seen anything (apart from the UK saying they back Israeli strikes against Iran).

But I'm only now reading about this story as been out most of the day.

Will post if/when I read anything about what the UK are doing.

A reminder ;

The relationship became so close by the mid-1970s that Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin invited South African prime minister John Vorster to visit, including a tour of Yad Vashem, the country’s Holocaust memorial. Vorster had been a Nazi sympathizer and member of the fascist Afrikaner group Ossewabrandwag during World War II; in 1942, he proudly expressed his admiration for Nazi Germany. Yet when Vorster arrived in Israel in 1976, he was feted by Rabin at a state dinner. Rabin toasted “the ideals shared by Israel and South Africa: the hopes for justice and peaceful coexistence.”

Both nations faced “foreign-inspired instability and recklessness.” A few months after Vorster’s visit, the South African government yearbook explained that both states were facing the same challenge: “Israel and South Africa have one thing above all else in common: they are both situated in a predominantly hostile world inhabited by dark peoples.

jacobin.com/2024/12/israel-south-africa-apartheid-weapons

The Islamist extremism is the issue.

The absolute denial of this issue, is really something.

We in the west know exactly what Islamist extremism looks like. We’ve seen plenty of it for ourselves in Glasgow, Manchester, London, Paris etc.

In the UK alone, since 2017, 39 late-stage plots have been disrupted. 39!

The UK is one Islamist terror attack away from mass civil unrest.

Iran has spent billions funding global terrorism. Fuelling it.

The Iranians even have a clock ticking down to the destruction of Israel.

Is everyone really certain Iran wouldn’t use a nuclear weapon?

@DrPrunesqualer I found this from Reuters:

Britain is not currently providing military support to Israel to defend against Iran's retaliation to overnight Israeli strikes, two British media outlets reported on Friday.

The Times newspaper cited defence sources as saying that Britain was not providing support to Israel on Friday morning.

Sky News separately reported that British warplanes were not currently involved in helping to defend Israel's skies, but that this could change as the situation develops.

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/britain-will-not-protect-israel-iran-retaliates-times-newspaper-2025-06-13/

Agree with first part and ask the same question.

How sure is everyone?

That's Tommy Robinson hyperbole but with a degree rather than the terraces at Luton Town. I really think responsible people need to crank dowm the rhetoric unless it's an outcome they are actively seeking.

@Twiglets1 I have seen the same that Britain isn't helping Israel this time in defending themselves from Iran's counter attack. I think they did last time though.

A poster above said the UK and US were helping to shoot down drones but I haven't seen it reported anywhere.

Lol - Tommy Robinson hyperbole.

What did I say that wasn’t true?

@Whatsinanamehey Remember that Sky news are suggesting that this could change as the situation develops.

I haven't read every news source so someone else may have read something I haven't.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-conducting-a-war-in-iran-not-an-operation-senior-military-official/

A senior military IDF official has said this is a war against Iran. This could go on for some time then. Is this the start of something much bigger?

I have been reading updates through out the day and haven't seen anything to suggest otherwise.

I don't think the UK will want to get involved this time if they can avoid it.