Freedom Flotilla

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Thought this might be worth its own thread. The freedom flotilla The Madleen was getting close to Gaza but seems to have made a diversion, as it was the closest boat to answer a distress call. They seem to also have four Sudanese asylum seekers on board who were trying to escape the Libyan coast patrol.

The UK and France are asking Israel for its safe passage.

The tracker is here but is in and out of action.
https://freedomflotilla.org/ffc-tracker/

More details here, although the latest detour is not covered in the article.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-navy-gears-up-to-block-high-profile-protest-ship-headed-for-gaza/amp/

For those who accuse Greta of singling out Israel or engaging in whataboutery by ignoring other major injustices in the world : I just looked at her X timeline, and she also calls out Turkey’s oppression of the Kurds not exactly a stance that will win her any favour with Erdoğan or his regime. In her own way and with her own distinctive way she is one of the great camapigners of out age. I for one salute her indefatigability !

x.com/GretaThunberg/status/1861782695212105845

Recently I have been travelling through northern Kurdistan, and have met with Kurdish people from all different kinds of backgrounds. They told countless stories of the current systematic oppression and repression they face – especially from the Turkish state –, as well as a history full of massacres.

Destruction and exploitation of the nature – such as unlawful forest cutdowns, sacrificing zones for mining companies and fires – is one of the many tools used as part of the continuous attacks against the Kurds. This often leads to devastation of local communities and biodiversity as well as forced displacement. Erasure of culture and identity, state violence, political prisoners, forced displacement, ecocides and disappearances are just some examples of the discrimination people face on an everyday basis, as well as being denied the right to self determination and freedom.

To build genuine bridges of solidarity in Turkey, autonomy and self-governance for Kurdish regions are essential. The Kurdish people deserve the right to shape their own lives, culture, and communities.

Turkey must clarify its stance on the Kurds and other minority groups by enshrining their rights in the constitution. The government continues to use “terrorism” as a pretext to silence its political opponents. Tens of thousands of politically active individuals remain imprisoned without fair trials. International organizations such as the ECHR, UN, and Amnesty have condemned this and call for their release.

For a sustainable peace and a just future, the Kurds’ right to freedom and autonomy must be respected and the violent attacks against Kurdistan must end.

No one is free until everyone is free. Bijî Kurdistan!

Current situation as of a few hours ago:

Update by Adalah Center on Freedom Flotilla Volunteers in the Israeli occupation Custody including MEP Rima Hassan:

Adalah Update, 11 June 2025, 11 AM Jerusalem

Adalah: “The Madleen volunteers’ continued custodial detention is completely unlawful. The volunteers must be released immediately and safely returned, either to the Madleen to resume their humanitarian mission to Gaza or to their countries of origin.

Late last night, on 10 June 2025, the Israeli Detention Review Tribunal at the Ramleh detention facility upheld the Ministry of Interior’s custody orders for the eight international volunteers from the Madleen Freedom Flotilla, still held in Israeli custody. Adalah received the decisions this morning.

The eight detained volunteers are: Suayb Ordu (Turkey), Mark van Rennes (The Netherlands), Pascal Maurieras (France), Reva Viard (France), Rima Hassan (France), Thiago Avila (Brazil), Yanis Mhamdi (France), and Yasemin Acar (Germany).

In Adalah’s view, the law applied by the Tribunal - “illegal entry into Israel” - is inapplicable to the Madleen volunteers. They neither sought to enter Israel nor intended to enter Israeli territorial waters. Their planned route was from Sicily to international waters and then directly into the internationally-recognized territorial waters of the State of Palestine, into Gaza. Israeli authorities forcibly intercepted and seized the flotilla and detained the volunteers, violating their will and their fundamental rights under international law.

The Tribunal dismissed Adalah’s arguments, asserting that the naval blockade on Gaza is lawful under Israeli law and that the volunteers knowingly attempted to breach it. Under Israeli law, individuals under deportation orders are detained for 72 hours or more before they are forcibly deported unless they agree to be deported earlier. The Tribunal set a follow-up custody review for 8 July 2025 at 9:00 a.m., should deportation not occur before then. The Tribunal thus enables the authorities to extend detention arbitrarily, potentially for one month, until 8 July 2025, without any further judicial oversight, and in clear violation of international law."

And more..... she stands with the Georgians against Russian interference.

History has so many sides as individuals living it, does it not? It is perfectly understandable that having lived through the wars and hate, they would fear the fall of the wall.
Yet, it did work. It was done well. The process did work.
Did they say anything further after seeing that no major incident followed? After getting news that Germany had indeed changed for good, and their bravery and commitment did indeed pay off.

If only we had more people with the leadership the guys who brought Europe back from WWII had, to deal with the present issues. It is this type of person we do need, now. Someone capable of stopping terrorists, stop arming terrorists, stop wars, and reset people's mentality.
( off topic, but really hoping for someone able to stop Putin, as Trump is not doing so!!!!)

What else do you want? You want me to cut and paste those specific comments for your approval?
No not my approval but evidence of what you are referring to. Of course it's vague you haven't provided one example of what you are talking about.

I don’t need your approval to hold my opinion.
No you don't so maybe change your language you said "I’m explicitly stating that" that doesn't suggest it's just an opinion

The Palestinians desperately need a Nelson Mandela, and the Israelis need a Yitzhak Rabin, who was tragically assassinated by a right-wing extremist not unlike those in actual power today.

After the historic handshake with Yasser Arafat, Rabin spoke on behalf of the Israeli people and said: "We who have fought against you, the Palestinians, we say to you today, in a loud and clear voice: Enough of blood and tears. Enough!"

@sualipa

Yes 🙌🏻. We also need a better person in power in the US.

Everything is looking a bit bleak.

In July 1995, Netanyahu led a mock funeral procession featuring a coffin and hangman's noose at an anti-Rabin rally where protesters chanted, "Death to Rabin".[10][11] The chief of internal security, Carmi Gillon, then alerted Netanyahu of a plot on Rabin's life and asked him to moderate the protests' rhetoric, which Netanyahu declined to do.[8][12] Netanyahu denied any intention to incite violence.

Haha that’s funny 😂

Sadly, it seems those peace convoys have long since run aground on the rocks of vicious sectarian authoritarianism on both sides. The assassination of Yitzhak Rabin marked a tragic turning point a moment that Netanyahu helped to orchestrate tangentially through his divisive rhetoric and actions.

My digging into Netanyahu unearthed some quite horrific truths he fueled Hamas for years, incubating this horrific twisting of humanity for his own benefit and for those who keep him in power. Rather than ending, this cycle of violence has become the foundation on which he has built and maintained his power and here we are.

www.patheos.com/blogs/thecommonalityofhumanity/2023/10/did-prime-minister-benjamin-bibi-netanyahu-purposely-sacrifice-thousands-just-to-remain-in-power/

Yes!!!!!!

I was around when the news of that hit Europe. And that is why I cannot get my head around how on Earth this man is still around?! How?!
We can only hope that the heroes who will build that so wished peace are somewhere near and ready to take over and start the process. For the good of all those born to this land, whatever ethnicity and religion. For a future without bombs, without kidnappings, without bomb shelters, without barbed wire everywhere and without food and basic goods blockade. Doing the same they did for years will not work. We should have figured this one by now.

It’s a shame the Israelis didn’t just let Greta land in Gaza and not give her the oxygen this has provided. Spoilt kid goes to a war zone and takes her chances. I wonder sort of welcome she would have received.

i find this gross 👆🏻

i think Greta was very brave in what she did and should be admired. So many of us feel helpless in this situation , she actually did something . And she's got people talking.

said the people in the nearby town all claimed to know nothing of what happened in the camp. He said that was lies as you could smell the rotting bodies in the town

The people living near the concentration camps probably did know what was happening, but what could they have done about it?

Spoilt kid goes to a war zone @MrsGuyOfGisbo

Why is it that those who display sympathy for the Palestinian cause are not always questioned as to why they believe what they do, but instead are subject to personal insults and slurs.
Hamas lover, Terrorist sympathiser, Jew-hater, useful idiot, and so much other name calling. Has anyone else noticed this ?

It's hard not to notice it. It's like the playground.

@mouthpipette you forgot peacenik, used derogatory.
I have actually learnt this word in this board. To me it is a compliment. To some other people seems to be a derogatory term to use against anyone pro a cease fire.
I am suprised not to have seen it in this thread, actually.

I absolutely take peacenik as a compliment.

Also remember some complaining about the “both sides” people 🤣

I mentioned that in the past people that we now consider statesmen of peace were accused/considered as terrorist activists or sympathisers and I have examples. I didn't say they were actual terrorists..I didn't refer to the previous conversation or make any contectual analysis, but was thinking out (as is allowed in a conversation). I didn't refer to "this boat being full of terrorist sympathisers".
So please be careful what you accuse me, and other posters, of.
And to the poster who said I am supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation, go ahead and report me officially. I look forward to it. I have no issue dealing with accusations where I'm innocent.
Still awaiting the response from the poster on my "agenda". Can't wait to see that.

Sadly, that is true. Just look at the hate and abuse Ms Rachel recieves for calling an end to the war.

People who display sympathy to Israel and the plight of the hostages are called genocide apologists. Maybe that sort of emotive language can be stopped as well.

I don't go on X much, but from what I have seen there is some pressure to conform or agree with all the views on 'your side'. People who have slightly different views than the supposed majority are sometimes ostracised or shunned. I could be wrong, it is just a brief observation, as I said I don't visit it often.

The reason we have international laws, rules that states agree to abide by, is because of the horrors of WW2. To prevent the horrors of that war happening again. That's why all states have a duty to comply with them....but as people we all have a duty to do so as well.

Awaits for the accusatory comments that I'm actually referencing x y or z