Heartbreaking news report from Gaza - Dr receives bodies of her children

[Applenation]

Many of you will already have read about this. Paediatric specialist Dr Alaa al-Najjar was on duty when the bodies of nine of her 10 children were received by her in the hospital, after a strike in Khan Younis hit her home.

This report just stopped me in my tracks. I don't know what to say beyond this. I cannot stop thinking about this poor woman tonight.

er children killed by a strike in Khan Younis. Guardian link

@Biscuitsformeandyou

it isn’t specially about this incident then…
Not that anything is really clear from the video linked..
I guess we could also remember that IDF have form for shooting at those collecting aid, although not specifically about this incident…

Yes, they've lied repeatedly. Which is why I no longer trust or support them. Yes things happen, fog of war etc but not like this.

And Hamas are evil war criminals in case anyone thinks I somehow support or uncritically believe them.

Of course, it's been pointed out time and again to those who claim we believe Hamas propaganda that no independent journalists are allowed in Gaza.

But apparently that's not deeply sus at all and at the same time it would be wrong to form any negative opinions from the absolute carnage that we do see, because they could be lying, but we can't know because there isn't any independent verification, and there isn't any independent verification because Israel won't allow it, and that's fine.
Ad infinitum.

That isn't true. They are still saying they fired shots at a slightly different location and nobody was hurt. They have released the video to show that Hamas is trying to disrupt the aid process, they are not claiming it was the incident today.

I agree the video is lame and I think that it would have been better not to release it given the scale of the alleged event today. I also don't think that sarcasm helps.

If you look at the social media of the IDF, Israel, the foreign ministry etc… they are heavily implying that it is the incident today. In the last 3 hours they have shared it with the caption:

“WATCH: Drone footage shows gunmen in Gaza shooting at civilians going to collect aid.
Hamas is doing everything in its power to prevent the successful distribution of food in Gaza”

On a day that over 30 people were murdered and over 200 injured with the victims claiming to have been shot by the IDF to share that video on social media with that caption is to divert blame for the massacre. All the people retweeting it on social media as “evidence” Hamas were the ones to fire on the crowd are taking it that the IDF are offering the video as proof it wasn’t them. Give ‘em the old razzle dazzle - deny, attack, reverse victim and offender but mostly distract the conversation so much that people question the truth.

Yes - they are- which some pro-Israeli commentators should also do- accept that what the IDF is saying may not be trusted either.

@Biscuitsformeandyou
Apologies - I was expecting something a bit more convincing from the initial post about new evidence posted by @Naomival ….

I haven’t heard a pro Israel person say they think the IDF never lie.

But if the IDF give a completely different account to the Hamas account it is worth considering that we don’t actually know who is telling the truth so stories coming out of Gaza shouldn’t necessarily be immediately believed & repeated until & unless we get proof.

Yep happy to accept this. Was getting the impression from this thread that we must trust IDF account. We really need independent journalists to go in.

An example: Al alhil hospital was bombed on Palma Sunday. It was the last good functioning hospital in Gaza. They were given a warning of 20 mins to evacuate. A Christian hospital, Israel claimed it was a Hamas control centre.

Al asqa hospital was claimed to be another command centre but this turned out to be a tent sheltering displaced people which was bombed.

A UN, that well known Hamas supporter, clinic for children was bombed. And a Red Cross clinic.

Claims were made that huge Hamas infrastructure was lying beneath Al.Shifa and Indonesian, and both were found to be much much less than claimed. I think it was Al Shiva in the interview where the Israeli minister had to admit it was not as large as they claimed at all.

The ICC has stated that Israel's claims regarding Hamas involvement in health facilities is grossly exaggerated. I posted the warrant already.

Attacking hospitals is not allowed under international law. Even if a State knows with irrefutable proof that a hospital is being used in harmful attacks against it there are procedures to follow. These procedures are not (only sometimes, not always) giving impossibly short evacuation notices of 20 mins and less and then bombing it. Not shooting people in it and around it. That's why Israel's actions on destroying the health infrastructure in Gaza is a war crime.

Israel knows what to do to follow international law. But it chooses not to.

BBC news tonight shows drone footage of armed men but not idf soldiers shooting people waiting for food distribution.

They also show people with food condemning hamas, shouting about hamas as they leave with food parcels.

A hospital doctor says patients brought in with gunshot wounds. Many men laying on floor waiting for treatment.

It's clear people are broken and need food.

Actually the BBC said the footage shared by Israel was filmed from a different location and said it showed “armed men” - they also made it clear the allegations were made by the IDF and that Israel does not allow the BBC into Gaza. They went on to say that they do have independent sources in the ground and shared footage of people shot, people saying that they are starving and lured in with food and then shot by the IDF, interviews with doctors. The broadcast does not show the IDF in a good light, it shows pain, suffering and countless people saying it was the IDF.

Reporting on Gaza at 13:43
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002d24z/bbc-weekend-news-late-news-01062025

As an example of bias in the press.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/01/palestinians-gunned-down-while-trying-to-reach-food-aid-site-in-gaza-hospital-says

Has the following:

The Israeli forces denied “firing at civilians”. However, an Israel Defense Forces official admitted that Israeli soldiers fired “warning shots toward several suspects who advanced toward the troops on Saturday”, near the aid distribution site, without specifying who the suspects were.

Wheras the military official referenced actually said then following:

An Israeli military official acknowledged that troops did fire warning shots overnight around a kilometer away from the aid site, hours before the facility opened to distribute aid to Palestinians.

“IDF troops worked to prevent a number of suspects from approaching the forces,” the official said. “During the activity, warning shots were fired at a number of suspects who approached the forces.”

“There is no connection between the incident in question and the false allegations against the IDF,” added the official.

The Guardian is knowingly providing only a partial and misleading description of the IDF's response which casts Israel in the worse possible light.

TBH Israel hasnt helped itself with all the lies, false information and stopping credible journalists from being able to accurately report on the situation.

The guardian is reporting what it knows, nothing else.

Yup I was paying a donation for Guardian news but I've cancelled it now. I honestly never realised before this conflict how biased their reporting can be. I've been naïve about that, I guess.

I don't mind UK papers having a certain bias as long as they don't completely distort the truth. But The Guardian are about the worst offender amongst quality papers of allowing their bias to affect their reporting of important world events.

What it knows as reported by a proscribed terrorist organisation who committed the level of atrocities they did on Oct 7th while invoking God and are still holding hostages almost two years later. Who also have publicly stated that they want as many of their people to die as ‘martyrs’ as possible.

How the absolute fuck has this world become so twisted that people will believe these vile monsters over a democratic government of a country that largely contributes something to the world?

Would you believe Israel if it was not a Jewish state?

Israel would be more believable if they weren’t caught in lie after lie. If they didn’t execute medics and bury their vehicles to hide the evidence. If they didn’t bomb hospitals, maternity wards, IVF clinics, if they didn’t seize most of the farmland in Gaza and then close all corridors to aid leaving people to starve. If they didn’t kill or injure more than 50,000 kids with bombs and bullets.

Israel puts out so many versions of the truth in a day - the video they are sharing of “Hamas attacking” has been shown to be from a different location and some criminal family. Yesterday they shared three different narratives about what happened but there are dead bodies and over 200 wounded - the wounded are all saying it was the IDF, the Doctors are saying it was the IDF - that many people would not collectively lie about who shot them and killed their families. When they executed the medics they had so many versions of the truth which were all blown to shreds when it turned out there is video evidence.

Sure. And even if you don't believe IDF and think it lies, I am sure you disapprove of the Guardian misreporting the conflict.

How did they misreport?

From the guardian:
The Israeli forces denied “firing at civilians”. However, an Israel Defense Forces official admitted that Israeli soldiers fired “warning shots toward several suspects who advanced toward the troops on Saturday”, near the aid distribution site, without specifying who the suspects were.

From the Israeli restaurant official:
An Israeli military official acknowledged that troops did fire warning shots overnight around a kilometer away from the aid site, hours before the facility opened to distribute aid to Palestinians.

Everything else the official says is conjecture there is no evidence to back anything up.

It's the fact they reported the incident as fact that the IDF did the shooting without waiting to see what the IDF had to say about it.

Only later did the say that the IDF have denied shooting anyone after they had the chance to investigate the incident.

The Guardian do this time and time again. They were repeating the fake story about the 14,000 babies dying in Gaza in the next 48 hours long after other media sources were starting to print that this had been proved wrong. So they knew it was wrong but were still saying it? That level of anti Israel bias is unacceptable to me in a news organisation.

It's the fact they reported the incident as fact that the IDF did the shooting without waiting to see what the IDF had to say about it.

There's nothing reported as fact in the article linked so maybe wrong link was attached.

The Guardian’s reporting is misleading because it leaves out the most important part of the IDF’s response: their explicit statement that the warning shots were completely unrelated to the alleged incident at the aid site. By quoting the warning shots and omitting the IDF’s clear denial of any connection between the events, the article encourages readers to assume guilt (I.e. maybe the IDF did fire at that time and place but claims to not have hit civilians) without presenting the full context.

The use of the word “however” is also misleading. It implies there’s a contradiction or admission by the IDF, when in fact the official was clear that the warning shots were unrelated to the incident in question. This choice of wording, combined with omitting the full denial, creates a false impression.

I’m talking about the Guardian generally as well as this article.

They choose not to report anything the IDF say as fact because they lie and lie and lie again. Not sure why they expect to be believed. Maybe they are telling the truth and their account is accurate but it's the boy that cried wolf, we have been misled one too many times. I don't blame news reporters for not documenting what they say as fact

This distraction from the discussion about the people brutally murdered and maimed by the IDF by attacking the integrity of the newspapers and journalists is an interesting turn of events. The other day we were all left debating child soldiers, today it’s attacking highly respected journalists - what will move the conversation away from the 50,000 dead and injured children tomorrow.

The BBC newsreel that was referenced last night (and that I shared a link to) showed multiple videos from the ground - multiple dead bodies, hospitals over whelmed with the injured, so much grief, pain and suffering. I am not sure if those of you in Israel and the US can access the BBC iplayer so I have typed up a few extracts from the newsreel.

It opens with a body being taken through a crowd, people doubled over with grief particularly two elderly women who are prevented from going with the body. The news reporter voiceover says

“They left their tents last night because their stomachs were empty. How much more painful to nurse an empty heart.

By dawn Gaza’s Nasa hospital was inundated with casualties - hungry people shot near Rafa as they waited for an Israeli backed distribution centre to open”

It then cuts to a crowd of mostly underweight people who look absolutely detroyed with grief. A thin elderly man sitting on the ground sounds broken as he says:

“Let the whole world see what the Israelis and America are doing to us. They are lying. They say they give us aid and they kill us. They were shelling us and shooting at us.”

The reporter says ”Doctors described a tsunami of casualties this morning. Many with gun shot and shrapnel wounds”.

A Doctor is interviewed and says “These are all civilian casualties that were asked to go to an aid centre to collect food and ended up presenting with gunshot wounds, shrapnel wounds … most of them are critical. Some of them arrived dead on arrival because of severe, targeted gunshot wounds to the head and the thorax.”

It ends with “Israel’s critics say Israel is using hunger as a weapon of war but even by those with weapons themselves Gaza’s hungry are being treated as a threat.”

It is from 13:43, it will expire at 10.20pm tonight!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002d24z