Heartbreaking news report from Gaza - Dr receives bodies of her children

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Many of you will already have read about this. Paediatric specialist Dr Alaa al-Najjar was on duty when the bodies of nine of her 10 children were received by her in the hospital, after a strike in Khan Younis hit her home.

This report just stopped me in my tracks. I don't know what to say beyond this. I cannot stop thinking about this poor woman tonight.

er children killed by a strike in Khan Younis. Guardian link

I'd believe Israel if they weren't provan liars.

Nothing to do with it being Jewish or not. People are getting sick of that accusation. Change the record.

A bunch of posts saying that essentially they only want the press to report what they agree with (yes, you, @ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend) and accusing @AIBUHere of acting in bad faith rather than genuine concern when raising antisemitism.

Shows the true colours of the pro Palestine movement.

Have we moved onto antisemitism now - I thought we were talking about the 50,000 kids murdered and maimed by the IDF, of the doctors’ home targeted by the IDF killing 9 children and a doctor? I though we were talking about the 30+ people murdered and 200+ injured at the IDF Aid Distribution massacre? Let us think about the victims, of the people mourning their loved ones, of those left brain damaged on ventilators, of the people who were hungry and sought food but instead got life altering injuries.

I would prefer to talk about real life rather than your crazied fantasies

Pen International have issued a call for an arms embargo. They have highlighted the impact on writers, artists, culture and heritage - Unesco report over 110 cultural and heritage sites have been destroyed by the IDF including religious sites, historic buildings, monuments, museums, and archaeological sites.

“PEN International concurs with the UN, legal experts, sister human rights organisations, and genocide scholars that genocide is being perpetrated against Palestinians in Gaza through various means, including widespread indiscriminate killings, and the weaponisation of aid such as food and medicine.

The ongoing genocide in Gaza has marked the deadliest period for writers since World War II. Israel’s unrelenting bombardment of Gaza is resulting in widespread death, the systematic destruction of its vital infrastructure such as hospitals, schools, libraries, bookstores, water and electricity networks, and communications systems, and the forced displacement of its population, including writers, academics, artists, and cultural workers.

Over the past 18 months, at least 23 Palestinian writers (excluding artists and cultural workers) have been killed by Israeli bombardment. In the same period, Israel has also been responsible for the deaths of at least 173 Palestinian journalists and media workers. The sustained attack on Palestinian culture, including heritage sites, writers, and journalists, is a deliberate strategy to silence and erase the Palestinian people.

Testimonies from writers also described the challenges they face amid the persistent threat to their lives. The relentless Israeli military operations, the indiscriminate bombardment of so-called “safe zones” with high explosives, unexploded ordnance, sniper attacks targeting civilians, and the ongoing arbitrary restrictions and ban on humanitarian aid – are a grim, daily reality. All writers who spoke to PEN International have consistently stressed that: “there is no place safe in Gaza.””

https://www.pen-international.org/news/optisrael-there-is-no-safe-place-in-gaza

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Its not working. Its not worked for a while.

Dr Ali, the Irish Palestinian uncle of the little kids burned alive on Friday has called for sanctions to be imposed on Israel similar to those imposed on the apartheid regime in South Africa. Not in revenge, but pressure them to end the war. The current offer allows Israel to resume bombing in 60 days, having got the hostages released, so the Witkoff deal isn’t really offering much to prevent these brutal large scale civilian deaths and injuries going on indefinitely until the population of Gaza is exterminated . There’s also the recent approval of more settlements on the West Bank and the unchecked settler violence, the encroaching security buffer zones on so many of Israel’s borders are which points towards a policy expulsion in relation to the Palestinians. Jeffrey Saks has observed that there are 3 potential outcomes to this war- expulsion, extermination or coexistence. The latter two outcomes are genocidal and so governments need to place real immediate sanctions on Israel.
International governments need to impose economic sanctions and embargos or be complicit in genocide.

Abu Abdullah Basel Dardouna:

> The Kharijites of Hamas committed a massacre against people who went to receive aid.. more than forty martyrs were struck by Hamas with mortars to thwart the distribution of aid.

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Nabhan Abu Hmeed:

> Hamas spread a rumor that aid would be distributed in Rafah, and when people gathered in front of the aid center, it fired mortar shells, which made the occupation army appear to be the one committing a massacre against our people.
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> More than 40 martyrs and many injured—Hamas did this to sabotage the aid distribution plan.

https://x.com/afalkhatib/status/1929266305003143429

No call for Hamas to disarm and surrender though?

The immediate release of the remaining 58 hostages?

Surrounding Arab countries to take in child refugees?

Why do you think that is?

Because they killed 9 children under the age of 12 in his family so he might have slight bias against those that did it.
Think he's probably just human.

Why do you think it is?

The PP didn’t say that.

She said this specific situation was genocide.

Don’t be obtuse

Fgs everyone is interrogating the reports because nobody has been able to categorically clarify what happened. Where did I say I only want the press to report what I agree with? And where did I accuse a poster of acting in bad faith?
rather than genuine concern when raising antisemitism.
And can you explain what you are accusing me of here please?

On the allegations of antisemitism, or the allegations of smacking of antisemitism I find it upsetting that it's assumed that posters, because they're deigned as pro Palestinian, may not have Jewish ancestry or Jewish family members themselves.
Plenty of Israeli people are unhappy with and criticising Israel's actions. Many Jewish people around the world are unhappy with Israel's actions.
Are they anti-Semitic?
It's not anti-Semitic to question the veracity of a country that has been caught out on its lies many many times.

I referenced you in brackets and wasn't referring to you with the second point. I was referring to these types of posts: "I'd believe Israel if they weren't provan liars.

Nothing to do with it being Jewish or not. People are getting sick of that accusation. Change the record."

How are these crazed fantasies?
50k children have been killed, maimed or injured.
Nine children of a doctor (this thread in fact) were killed in an Israel air strike.
People were killed and injured at the distribution centre?
Where's the fantasy there?

I think that people can criticise Israel, Jewish or not.

If you use antisemitic tropes or ideas in how you criticise Israel, I really don't care if you are Jewish or have Jewish ancestors or whatever. You are functionally antisemitic.

I can't be bothered to quote you. But your use of language and attribution of blame when it was likely Hamas mortar attacks to undermine the new aid process are frenzied fantasies.

Thank you. Can you point out those tropes please?

I don't want to go through the full thread and neither do I want to rely on my memory. But they are there and I have commented on them in detail earlier in the thread.

If this is one, unfortunately Israel have lied and have been caught out in those lies. It has had to backtrack on statements.
It's not just me who thinks so: this has even been referenced by the ICC who said its claims were grossly exaggerated (I posted about this earlier).
Given this, I can understand why people find Israel untrustworthy and unbelievable. Saying this is not anti-Semitic or an anti-Semitic trope.
The fact that Israel doesn't allow independent press in to report doesn't help I'm afraid.

I've struggled to find the tropes you've referred to. If you could I would be grateful, thank you.

I will start them and you will disagree and it is really is not worth our time.

Okaaaayyyyy...

@AIBUHere I think your username is very appropriate here given the context.
Dr Ali condemned the taking of civilian hostages on both sides.
He has just seen his completely innocent family members killed by the IDF.
Israel has not apologised.
They are trying to get little Adam out to Italy as his left arm is hanging off more or less.
How would you feel if he was your nephew?
I find your comments offensive because there is an implication that the uncle of the kids is a Hamas supporter, which he is not. There’s also an insinuation that the children are responsible for their own deaths and that Hamas killed them, not the IDF in cold blood.

If you could start them please as I do object strongly to being called anti-Semitic.

You yourself have no issue requesting examples of other things on previous posts.