Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Conflict in the Middle East

US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

1000 replies

Twiglets1 · 10/05/2025 06:12

The US has confirmed that a new system for providing humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza through private companies is being prepared, as Israel's blockade continues for a third month.

US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee said "distribution centres" protected by security contractors would provide food and other supplies to over a million people initially, as part of an effort to prevent Hamas stealing aid.

He denied Israel would take part in aid delivery or distribution, but said its forces would secure the centres' perimeters.

It comes as details emerged about the controversial plan, which UN agencies have reiterated they will not co-operate with because it appears to "weaponize" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

Palestinian receive food cooked by a charity kitchen in Beit Lahia, northern Gaza Strip (8 May 2025)

US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

UN agencies say they will not co-operate with the proposed system because it appears to "weaponise" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

OP posts:
Thread gallery
74
MissyB1 · 17/05/2025 20:49

They need to start refusing to take part in genocide.

Martymcfly24 · 17/05/2025 20:51

I imagine that will increase in the coming years as the reality of their actions hits them. The average age of an IDF solider is just under 20 years old, far too young to really understand the gravity of what's happening.

Especially if there are war crime trials in the future.

Twiglets1 · 17/05/2025 20:57

A new round of ceasefire negotiations is underway between Hamas & Israel … don’t any of you want to talk about that? Surely that’s more important to you than chatting about the suicide of young soldiers?

OP posts:
BelleHathor · 17/05/2025 22:05

Twiglets1 · 17/05/2025 20:57

A new round of ceasefire negotiations is underway between Hamas & Israel … don’t any of you want to talk about that? Surely that’s more important to you than chatting about the suicide of young soldiers?

The talks have been ongoing, it's how Edan Alexander was released via direct negotiations with Trump’s envoy Witkoff facilitated by the mediators.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/hamas-to-release-us-israeli-hostage-edan-alexander-after-new-round-of-ceasefire-talks/f2xnkn2c5?cid=newsapp:socialshare:twitter@SBSNews

The only difference is that Israel has sent it's delegates to Doha. Funny I was listening to a Reporter in the region earlier today and they said Israel would spin the "restarted" talks as Hamas caving in to their increased bombing over the last 48 hours.

Twiglets1 · 17/05/2025 22:14

BelleHathor · 17/05/2025 22:05

The talks have been ongoing, it's how Edan Alexander was released via direct negotiations with Trump’s envoy Witkoff facilitated by the mediators.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/hamas-to-release-us-israeli-hostage-edan-alexander-after-new-round-of-ceasefire-talks/f2xnkn2c5?cid=newsapp:socialshare:twitter@SBSNews

The only difference is that Israel has sent it's delegates to Doha. Funny I was listening to a Reporter in the region earlier today and they said Israel would spin the "restarted" talks as Hamas caving in to their increased bombing over the last 48 hours.

Edited

Hamas confirms new Gaza ceasefire talks with Israel in Qatar on Saturday

Hamas confirmed a new round of Gaza ceasefire talks with Israel was under way in Qatar’s Doha, group official Taher al-Nono told Reuters.

He said both sides were discussing all issues without “pre-conditions”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/may/17/israel-gaza-war-new-offensive-netanyahu-hamas-trump-latest-news-updates

Hamas confirms fresh Gaza ceasefire talks after Israel announces new ground offensive – as it happened

Hamas official tells Reuters that a new round of talks with Israel has begun in Qatar

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/may/17/israel-gaza-war-new-offensive-netanyahu-hamas-trump-latest-news-updates

OP posts:
Whatsinanamehey · 17/05/2025 22:18

Not really, Hamas has stipulated that the ceasefire must be a permanent end to the war and Israel or more like Netanyahu has said he won't agree to this even if they release all the hostages.

Twiglets1 · 17/05/2025 22:27

Hamas has proposed releasing more hostages under a new Gaza ceasefire deal in a fresh round of negotiations with Israel, which comes after Israel's military launched a major new offensive.

Hamas has agreed to release nine hostages in exchange for a 60-day truce and Israel releasing Palestinian prisoners, an official told the BBC.

Israel is yet to respond to the proposal, but said prior to the talks in Qatar on Saturday that it would not withdraw troops from Gaza or commit to an end to the war.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7geg3lvz1o

A Palestinian carries a wounded person to Al-Aqsa Martyrs hospital following an Israeli strike, in Deir Al-Balah, central Gaza Strip, May 17, 2025.

Hamas proposes releasing some hostages in fresh talks after new Israel offensive

A new round of talks has taken place in Doha after Israel carried out airstrikes which killed hundreds.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7geg3lvz1o

OP posts:
kistanbul · 17/05/2025 22:47

The level of evil involved in thinking that it’s better for children to die of starvation than terrorists eat is mind blowing.
Israel has lost its soul.

ssd · 17/05/2025 22:54

Sadly this was never about getting the hostages back. It looked that way in the beginning but its become obvious the main objective is a land grab. And a decimation of the Palestinian people and their whole way of life.

If that's not a genocide i dont know what is.

I didn't realise that statistic about suicide in the IDF. This must be affecting so many young Israelis terribly too.

The whole thing is a stain on the world. I hope the terrorists on both sides are brought to account someday. Although i know already they wont be.

quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2025 01:34

Twiglets1 · 17/05/2025 20:57

A new round of ceasefire negotiations is underway between Hamas & Israel … don’t any of you want to talk about that? Surely that’s more important to you than chatting about the suicide of young soldiers?

Almost as if there's another agenda at play.

Martymcfly24 · 18/05/2025 06:46

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/global-affairs/israels-military-proposes-three-gaza-strips-within-wartorn-enclave-if-ceasefire-deal-with-hamas-falls-through/news-story/7b01e772a7af2e602fd6c3b48106d8aa

A giant refugee camp in Gaza. Not allowed to return to houses or land that may be left standing with no go military zones.

Clear what the plan was all along. Starve the people until they are so desperate they will do anything or move anywhere to get food and aid.

They are being rounded up like animals.

Twiglets1 · 18/05/2025 07:03

quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2025 01:34

Almost as if there's another agenda at play.

Yes that’s what I thought.

They never want to focus for one minute on anything that could be positive.

To me a fresh round of negotiations is fantastic. I will always be more optimistic when negotiations are going on than when they aren’t. That is something that could actually bring about an end to all the deaths, unlike whatever is going on in these discussions.

OP posts:
Odras · 18/05/2025 07:53

I lack hope with the talks. Israel have said they won’t commit to ending the war so they won’t end the deaths alone.

Hopefully some aid will get in. Hopefully some hostages will be exchanged. But I’d find other countries putting pressure on Israel to be better news at this point rather than the talks.

Twiglets1 · 18/05/2025 08:04

Odras · 18/05/2025 07:53

I lack hope with the talks. Israel have said they won’t commit to ending the war so they won’t end the deaths alone.

Hopefully some aid will get in. Hopefully some hostages will be exchanged. But I’d find other countries putting pressure on Israel to be better news at this point rather than the talks.

Both sides talking again can only be a positive thing. Despite how bloody this war is, it will end with talking as they all do.

From the Jerusalem Post:

Hamas has offered to release half of the remaining living hostages and a number of bodies in exchange for a two-month ceasefire, Palestinian sources told Sky News Arabia.

In addition to demanding a temporary ceasefire, Hamas also conditioned the release on the immediate resumption of aid deliveries.

Hamas also requested that family members of Hamas leadership be allowed to leave the Gaza Strip and that Israel promise not to pursue them.

The source also said that Hamas expressed willingness to give up its weapons after relinquishing control of Gaza.

This comes hours after Netanyahu instructed the negotiating team to "exhaust all efforts" to release the hostages.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-854350

Hamas offers to release half of remaining hostages for two month ceasefire - report

Hamas doubted whether the US was able to compel Netanyahu to abide by the terms of any agreement, following the release of Edan Alexander last week.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-854350

OP posts:
quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2025 10:39

Twiglets1 · 18/05/2025 08:04

Both sides talking again can only be a positive thing. Despite how bloody this war is, it will end with talking as they all do.

From the Jerusalem Post:

Hamas has offered to release half of the remaining living hostages and a number of bodies in exchange for a two-month ceasefire, Palestinian sources told Sky News Arabia.

In addition to demanding a temporary ceasefire, Hamas also conditioned the release on the immediate resumption of aid deliveries.

Hamas also requested that family members of Hamas leadership be allowed to leave the Gaza Strip and that Israel promise not to pursue them.

The source also said that Hamas expressed willingness to give up its weapons after relinquishing control of Gaza.

This comes hours after Netanyahu instructed the negotiating team to "exhaust all efforts" to release the hostages.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-854350

Hamas leaders running off to hide in Qatar, the little scamps.

Odras · 18/05/2025 10:47

I have some difficulty with that article, the bit about relinquishing control and the family members ect.., nobody else is reporting this. Is this considered a reliable news source generally?

Reuters are reporting that there has been no significant breakthrough.

MayMadness2025 · 18/05/2025 10:58

Twiglets1 · 18/05/2025 07:03

Yes that’s what I thought.

They never want to focus for one minute on anything that could be positive.

To me a fresh round of negotiations is fantastic. I will always be more optimistic when negotiations are going on than when they aren’t. That is something that could actually bring about an end to all the deaths, unlike whatever is going on in these discussions.

I think these threads tend to be like that totally negative and anti Israel. I think most people realise there's more to it and avoid the threads or comment on just a few of them, as I do, avoiding some completely. It's obsessive overload for some. Better to avoid.

Twiglets1 · 18/05/2025 11:28

Odras · 18/05/2025 10:47

I have some difficulty with that article, the bit about relinquishing control and the family members ect.., nobody else is reporting this. Is this considered a reliable news source generally?

Reuters are reporting that there has been no significant breakthrough.

The Media Bias Fact Check website rate them Mostly Factual for reporting and give them an* MBFC Credibility Rating of HIGH CREDIBILITY.*

I expect other new sources will be reporting the same thing soon.

OP posts:
ScrollingLeaves · 18/05/2025 14:13

Odras · 18/05/2025 10:47

I have some difficulty with that article, the bit about relinquishing control and the family members ect.., nobody else is reporting this. Is this considered a reliable news source generally?

Reuters are reporting that there has been no significant breakthrough.

This is the latest news I can find mentioning the idea of the families of some Hamas being given U.S. guaranteed safety after their exit. It is near the end of this Haaretz article from today:

Netanyahu: Israeli Delegation Discussing Ending War as Part of Deal With Hamas
According to an Israeli source, talks are based on 'the Witkoff plan with modifications' which calls for a two-month cease-fire, the release of 10 living hostages and half of the deceased hostages at the deal's start, before entering negotiations on the war's end.
….

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Sunday that the Israeli negotiation team is "exploring every opportunity" for a hostage deal, "whether under the Witkoff plan or as part of ending the fighting."

According to Netanyahu, the potential agreement would include "the release of all hostages, the expulsion of Hamas militants, and the disarmament of the Gaza Strip."

Hostage release and cease-fire talks are currently taking place in Doha, Qatar, according to a source familiar with the ongoing negotiations between Israel and Hamas.

National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir responded to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's statement, saying, "A framework to end the war without defeating Hamas – will not arise and will not happen."

A source familiar with the negotiations between Israel and Hamas said they are based on a "modified Witkoff plan" and include a two-month cease-fire and the release of 10 living hostages and half of the deceased hostages in Hamas captivity at the deal's start, before entering negotiations on terms of ending the war.

An additional source said Sunday that the main focus of the discussion is on the American guarantees that Hamas is demanding to ensure that Israel will not resume fighting at the end of the cease-fire.

Netanyahu's remarks came in response to comments made by Brig. Gen. (Res.) Oren Seter, former deputy to Maj. Gen. (Res.) Nitzan Alon, head of the IDF's Missing and Captive Soldiers Division, during an interview with Reshet Bet radio earlier on Sunday.

Seter claimed that the war could have ended sooner through a hostage deal, but Netanyahu dismissed this, saying, "The claims that an earlier agreement was possible are completely unfounded." Seter added that the previous hostage release deal came about due to U.S. pressure on Israel and that the deal reached was "very similar to what had been on the table earlier."

Until now, Israel has officially insisted on the "Witkoff framework" proposed two months ago, demanding the release of about half of the hostages as a precondition for negotiations. The Security Cabinet is expected to convene this afternoon.

A source involved in the matter said on Saturday night that U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is pressuring Hamas to agree to a two-month cease-fire, during which the sides will discuss ending the war. An Israeli source said Sunday morning that the sides are discussing the American guarantees Hamas is demanding so that Israel does not renew the fighting once the cease-fire ends. A second Israeli source said that Vice President JD Vance may visit Israel to advance the deal, but the White House denied this.

Sky News Arabic reported Saturday that Hamas has agreed to release half the living hostages as well as some of the deceased hostages within the framework of a two-month cease-fire.

The report also said that Hamas demanded that Israel guarantee that several Hamas leaders and their families safe exit from Gaza, along with U.S. guarantees that Israel would not harm them after their exit.

It also reported that Hamas demanded the entry of humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip without conditions from Israel, as well as American guarantees to begin negotiations to end the war during the temporary cease-fire.

Following the start of a new round of negotiations in Qatar, a senior Hamas official told Qatari newspaper Al-Araby Al-Jadeed that the current proposal under discussion includes a partial deal involving a cease-fire lasting more than two months, during which talks will be held toward a comprehensive agreement to end the war.

The source added that Hamas received more serious international guarantees this time and that the United States has shown a clear willingness to act to implement the agreement.

A senior Hamas official told Al Jazeera that Hamas agreed to participate in the current round of talks without preconditions, but also claimed that "the stage of partial deals is over."

Until recently, Israel has officially insisted that negotiations be based on the "Witkoff plan," which includes the release of roughly half of the hostages as a precondition for negotiations.

Hamas sources told Al-Araby that Israel's insistence on retrieving hostages without committing to a cease-fire will lead nowhere.

Whatsinanamehey · 18/05/2025 21:52

I have just read aid deliveries are going to resume under the previous mechanism, even if temporarily because of US pressure. There was no vote - Netanyahu just informed the cabinet as it doesn't seem they have a choice in the matter.

Twiglets1 · 18/05/2025 22:14

Whatsinanamehey · 18/05/2025 21:52

I have just read aid deliveries are going to resume under the previous mechanism, even if temporarily because of US pressure. There was no vote - Netanyahu just informed the cabinet as it doesn't seem they have a choice in the matter.

I wonder if it because of US pressure or maybe because of the deal that is being negotiated at the moment? Seems like a positive step whatever the motivation.

OP posts:
Whatsinanamehey · 18/05/2025 22:17

Twiglets1 · 18/05/2025 22:14

I wonder if it because of US pressure or maybe because of the deal that is being negotiated at the moment? Seems like a positive step whatever the motivation.

Times of Israel reports it will be immediately because of US pressure. I believe the US did promise the resumption of aid if Edan Alexander was released so it was probably that.

Whatsinanamehey · 18/05/2025 22:17

Definitely a positive step.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 18/05/2025 22:31

Israel has said it will allow “a basic amount “ of food in. It is evil not to allow sufficient food in. Basic doesn’t sound promising to me, but I really hope it is.

Twiglets1 · 19/05/2025 07:27

Sky article: Israel to allow 'basic quantity of food' into Gaza to avoid 'starvation crisis'

The statement from the prime minister's office said it would "allow a basic quantity of food to be brought in for the population in order to make certain that no starvation crisis develops in the Gaza Strip".

"Such a crisis would endanger the continuation of Operation 'Gideon's Chariots' to defeat Hamas," it added.

"Israel will act to deny Hamas's ability to take control of the distribution of humanitarian assistance in order to ensure that the assistance does not reach the Hamas terrorists."

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-to-allow-basic-quantity-of-food-into-gaza-to-avoid-starvation-crisis-13370724

OP posts:
Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.
Swipe left for the next trending thread