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Conflict in the Middle East

US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

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Twiglets1 · 10/05/2025 06:12

The US has confirmed that a new system for providing humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza through private companies is being prepared, as Israel's blockade continues for a third month.

US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee said "distribution centres" protected by security contractors would provide food and other supplies to over a million people initially, as part of an effort to prevent Hamas stealing aid.

He denied Israel would take part in aid delivery or distribution, but said its forces would secure the centres' perimeters.

It comes as details emerged about the controversial plan, which UN agencies have reiterated they will not co-operate with because it appears to "weaponize" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

Palestinian receive food cooked by a charity kitchen in Beit Lahia, northern Gaza Strip (8 May 2025)

US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

UN agencies say they will not co-operate with the proposed system because it appears to "weaponise" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

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ssd · 19/05/2025 18:40

Twiglets1 · 19/05/2025 13:40

Above to @ssd if it’s not obvious

Don't then. I can't be bothered engaging with someone with a badly hidden agenda.

ssd · 19/05/2025 18:44

Only 9 aid trucks will cause mayhem. Imagine if your kids were starving, you would be desperate. Maybe Netanyahu wants to cause utter chaos so he can say well we tried to feed them but they attacked us...

Odras · 19/05/2025 18:55

A bloody statement. The inaction is breathtaking at this stage. The 9 aid trucks is like Netanyahu sticking up two fingers to the US.

Whatsinanamehey · 19/05/2025 18:56

ssd · 19/05/2025 18:44

Only 9 aid trucks will cause mayhem. Imagine if your kids were starving, you would be desperate. Maybe Netanyahu wants to cause utter chaos so he can say well we tried to feed them but they attacked us...

I'm seeing conflicting reports of five trucks or nine. If it's five then that's even worst than originally reported.

MissyB1 · 19/05/2025 19:09

Twiglets1 · 19/05/2025 12:20

It’s a war zone and foreign journalists could be killed by either the IDF or Hamas.

Oh is that why journalists never ever go to any war zones then?!! 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Whatsinanamehey · 19/05/2025 19:23

Wow, has starmer finally grown a spine??

The leaders of Britain, France and Canada issued a joint statement on Monday warning that they will take “further concrete actions” if Israel does not stop a renewed military offensive in Gaza and lift aid restrictions.
The statement by Keir Starmer, Emmanuel Macron and Mark Carney condemns Israel’s expansion of military operations in Gaza as “wholly disproportionate”, adding that the “level of human suffering in Gaza is intolerable”.
We will not stand by while the Netanyahu Government pursues these egregious actions. If Israel does not cease the renewed military offensive and lift its restrictions on humanitarian aid, we will take further concrete actions in response.
It describes the Israeli government’s “denial of essential humanitarian assistance” as “unacceptable” and says it risks breaching international humanitarian law. In addition, it condemns the “abhorrent” language used by Israeli politicians threatening civilians to relocate from Gaza.
The leaders called on the Israeli government to stop its military operations in Gaza and immediately allow humanitarian aid to enter the Palestinian territory.

Gaza | The Guardian

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/gaza

Whatsinanamehey · 19/05/2025 19:24

UK France and Canada will take concrete actions if Israel doesn't resume full aid and cease the renewed military response.

What actions could they be?

ScrollingLeaves · 19/05/2025 19:31

Whatsinanamehey · 19/05/2025 18:31

22 countries including the UK have signed a statement demanding the FULL resumption of aid. Not this mockery or games that Netanyahu is trying to play.

The foreign ministers of the countries, including France and Germany, say that “whilst we acknowledge indications of a limited restart of aid,” the population of the war-ravaged territory “faces starvation” and “must receive the aid they desperately need.”
The statement was also signed by the foreign ministers of Australia, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and the UK.

This sounds very worrying:

Western diplomat who spoke to Haaretz harshly criticized the planned humanitarian aid distribution mechanism being established in Gaza. According to the diplomat, Israel is set to close 400 aid distribution points in Gaza and replace them with four or five large hubs. "There will be 6000 people who will come to collect food from one hub. Each center will serve 460,000 people…There is no way this will work," said the diplomat, adding that he "desperately hopes they don't make that mistake. It would be awful."

(Haaretz brief)

Twiglets1 · 19/05/2025 19:40

MissyB1 · 19/05/2025 19:09

Oh is that why journalists never ever go to any war zones then?!! 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

As I already explained, it’s up to each country to decide whether they will allow journalists in during wartime.

And up to each journalist whether they want to take the risk of being killed at work.

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Odras · 19/05/2025 20:23

Whatsinanamehey · 19/05/2025 19:24

UK France and Canada will take concrete actions if Israel doesn't resume full aid and cease the renewed military response.

What actions could they be?

revisiting the trade agreement between Canada and Israel. UK can look at the trade agreement and is still supplying some arms. France supplies arms. Lots of potential pressure leverages these counties could have already used.

SomeWomanSomewhere · 19/05/2025 20:26

ScrollingLeaves · 19/05/2025 19:31

This sounds very worrying:

Western diplomat who spoke to Haaretz harshly criticized the planned humanitarian aid distribution mechanism being established in Gaza. According to the diplomat, Israel is set to close 400 aid distribution points in Gaza and replace them with four or five large hubs. "There will be 6000 people who will come to collect food from one hub. Each center will serve 460,000 people…There is no way this will work," said the diplomat, adding that he "desperately hopes they don't make that mistake. It would be awful."

(Haaretz brief)

When you've lost the literal FT ...

US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm
Whatsinanamehey · 20/05/2025 10:29

The French foreign ministers response, I'm glad they can not only see but acknowledge that yesterday's 5 trucks were just a diplomatic farce.

“The situation is unbearable because the blind violence and the blocking of humanitarian aid by the Israeli government have turned Gaza into a dying ground — if not a cemetery,” Barrot tells France Inter radio, calling Israel’s military campaign “a total violation of all rules of international law, and contrary to the security of Israel — to which France is committed — because those who sow violence reap violence.”
“Indeed, it’s been nearly three months that the Israeli army had been blocking access to all humanitarian aid, and it has now decided to slightly open the door, notably for reasons of domestic politics,” continues Barrot, saying Israel’s limited allowance of aid into Gaza yesterday is insufficient, “and it already was, even before the blockade.”

quantumbutterfly · 20/05/2025 10:38

So France is committed to the security of Israel, good to know.

Whatsinanamehey · 20/05/2025 10:51

quantumbutterfly · 20/05/2025 10:38

So France is committed to the security of Israel, good to know.

Yes, why wouldn't they be?

They have clearly exhausted all diplomatic channels trying to get through to Netanyahu that starving an entire population isn't acceptable and will do absolutely nothing in ensuring the safety of Israel, so they are now criticising openly.

ScrollingLeaves · 20/05/2025 10:58

Whatsinanamehey · 20/05/2025 10:29

The French foreign ministers response, I'm glad they can not only see but acknowledge that yesterday's 5 trucks were just a diplomatic farce.

“The situation is unbearable because the blind violence and the blocking of humanitarian aid by the Israeli government have turned Gaza into a dying ground — if not a cemetery,” Barrot tells France Inter radio, calling Israel’s military campaign “a total violation of all rules of international law, and contrary to the security of Israel — to which France is committed — because those who sow violence reap violence.”
“Indeed, it’s been nearly three months that the Israeli army had been blocking access to all humanitarian aid, and it has now decided to slightly open the door, notably for reasons of domestic politics,” continues Barrot, saying Israel’s limited allowance of aid into Gaza yesterday is insufficient, “and it already was, even before the blockade.”

All well said, good for him speaking up and true.

This in particular resonates:

“a total violation of all rules of international law, and contrary to the security of Israel — to which France is committed — because those who sow violence reap violence.”

Twiglets1 · 20/05/2025 11:00

ScrollingLeaves · 20/05/2025 10:58

All well said, good for him speaking up and true.

This in particular resonates:

“a total violation of all rules of international law, and contrary to the security of Israel — to which France is committed — because those who sow violence reap violence.”

Those who sow violence reap violence.

Hamas soon learnt the truth of that didn’t they - to the detriment of the whole of Gaza.

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ScrollingLeaves · 20/05/2025 11:34

Twiglets1 · 20/05/2025 11:00

Those who sow violence reap violence.

Hamas soon learnt the truth of that didn’t they - to the detriment of the whole of Gaza.

They did.

But you could also say that Israel might have had the opportunity to learn the truth of that lesson too when the people they had stamped under their feet and stolen from, turned on them horrifically and savagely, even though it was madness given their lack of military resources compared to Israel’s.

It is all an endless cycle of trouble from the very beginning.

This is an interesting article from Haaretz about the problem that Israel’s response to Oct 7 is unlikely to be a solution. It is written by Omer Bar-Lev (Israeli politician who formerly served as Minister of Public Security, former IDF officer).

Does the Israeli Army Chief Truly Believe Hamas Can Be Defeated Solely Through Military Means?
As political leaders push for endless war, the military's top brass must answer whether destroying Hamas is truly achievable, or just another illusion

*The claim that additional military pressure will destroy Hamas' rule reminds me of an argument made by security officials during Operation Protective Edge in Gaza in 2014, when I was a member of the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee.^

At that time, security officials supported a brief cease-fire to allow, in their words, the heads of Hamas to emerge from their tunnels and witness the immense destruction caused by the operation – destruction they were responsible for – as well as the high number of civilian casualties (referred to in military jargon as "collateral damage"). They believed that after seeing the damage, Hamas members would beg to stop the fighting.

That never happened. Not after the first cease-fire, not after the assassination attempt on Mohammed Deif – in which his wife and children were killed – and not after a dozen additional cease-fires over those 50 days. The rational (Western?) logic of Israel's security officials, as well as that of Benjamin Netanyahu, who was prime minister then and remains so now, proved irrelevant.

In 1982, Israel entered the First Lebanon War with the goal of striking terrorists and replacing Lebanon's regime. The IDF captured far more territory than today's political leadership intends to take in Gaza. Yet the regime in Lebanon was never replaced with one favorable to Israel. Instead, the IDF became mired in Lebanon's quagmire for 18 years, losing hundreds of soldiers. One direct outcome of Israel's failed attempt to reshape Lebanon's government was the rise of Hezbollah, which gradually became the most significant operational threat to Israel.

No enemy – especially Hamas – can be defeated solely through military means aimed at ending the war. The messianists leading Israel's governmentseem invested in an unending, apocalyptic war. But what about the Chief of Staff, whose job is to assess, professionally and operationally, the feasibility of destroying Hamas? I am asking you, Eyal Zamir. Is it reasonable to believe that what was unattainable for the previous Chief of Staff and for all the brigade commanders who fought bravely in Gaza is suddenly within reach for Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir? After all, the government is the same.

And what about the head of Military Intelligence, responsible for the national intelligence estimate? Has Maj. Gen. Shlomi Binder learned nothing from the First Lebanon War – or from the past year and a half, during which, despite the dismantling of much of Hamas's military infrastructure, the terrorist group continues to recruit fighters and strike IDF forces? Is there any serious expectation that this will now stop?

The most dreadful of all the false claims is the idea that additional military pressure will lead to the release of the hostages still held by Hamas. The many days that have passed since October 7 prove the opposite. From the war's first week, it was clear to any sensible observer that Hamas would not release all the hostages without a ceasefire and a full IDF withdrawal from Gaza.

We cannot undo the blow suffered on October 7, nor erase the national humiliation. It is time to face reality, end the war, leave Gaza, and bring all the hostages home.

Whatsinanamehey · 20/05/2025 11:48

To clear the confusion between nine and five trucks - nine trucks were given permission to enter but only five did and even those five are still in Israeli control. The UN are still waiting for permission from Israel to pick those trucks up so they can distribute the aid which they haven't been given yet.

Martymcfly24 · 20/05/2025 11:51

Whatsinanamehey · 20/05/2025 11:48

To clear the confusion between nine and five trucks - nine trucks were given permission to enter but only five did and even those five are still in Israeli control. The UN are still waiting for permission from Israel to pick those trucks up so they can distribute the aid which they haven't been given yet.

Frightening and as can be seen it's now a race against time.

Can you imagine the desperation ?

Whatsinanamehey · 20/05/2025 11:58

Martymcfly24 · 20/05/2025 11:51

Frightening and as can be seen it's now a race against time.

Can you imagine the desperation ?

Yes it is

The EU are going to discuss suspending the agreement association they have with Israel today. They are angry that thousands of trucks of aid paid by the EU are waiting at the border and Israel is refusing to allow them in. I don't know if it will make any difference but it really is a race against time. The sense of urgency is becoming very apparent.

ScrollingLeaves · 20/05/2025 12:02

Martymcfly24 · 20/05/2025 11:51

Frightening and as can be seen it's now a race against time.

Can you imagine the desperation ?

On the news reports you can see the absolute desperation on the faces of the people, often children, holding out their pans for food.

It is very worrying to think that without a lot of care there could be stampedes and people crushed because of there being too many at once around the too few aid trucks.

Whatsinanamehey · 20/05/2025 13:04

More from Starmer below, David lammy is going to speak soon on what the UK's response is going to be

Sir Keir Starmer has just been addressing MPs in the House of Commons.
He says the level of suffering in Gaza is "utterly intolerable" and he is "horrified by the escalation from Israel".
"The recent announcement that Israel will allow a basic quantity of food into Gaza is totally and utterly inadequate," he says.
"So we must coordinate our response, because this war has gone on for far too long. We cannot allow the people of Gaza to starve."

Twiglets1 · 20/05/2025 15:39

UN says it has received permission to bring 100 trucks of aid into Gaza today
By Reuters

The United Nations has received permission from Israel for about 100 more aid trucks to enter Gaza today, a spokesperson for its humanitarian office says.
“We have requested and received approval for more trucks to enter today, many more than were approved yesterday,” Jens Laerke, spokesperson for the UN humanitarian office tells a Geneva press briefing.
Asked to specify how many, he says “around 100.”
After an 11-week Israeli blockade, Israel cleared nine aid trucks on Monday to enter Gaza through the Kerem Shalom crossing, although Laerke said just five of those entered Gaza.
“The next step is to collect them, and then they will be distributed through the existing system, the one that has proven itself,” says Laerke, adding that those trucks contained baby food and nutritional products for children.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-says-it-has-received-permission-to-bring-100-trucks-of-aid-into-gaza-today/

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Whatsinanamehey · 20/05/2025 15:46

The UK have stated that they oppose Israel's model of aid distribution as mentioned in the OP.

Let me be crystal clear, this government opposes Israel’s model for aid. We believe it does not respect humanitarian principles. It cannot deliver aid effectively at speed or scale required. It’s wrong, and it’s dangerous to the humanitarian system.

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