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Conflict in the Middle East

Hamas and Gazans revolting

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mids2019 · 26/03/2025 23:14

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g71lk09npo

I think it's a real positive that brave Gazans are now protesting against Hamas openly demonstrating at least some of the population can see it is Hamas that has brought death and destruction to the enclave.

The irony is that war trodden Gazans are protesting in harsh conditions possibly risking death against Hamas while in your average 'Pro Palestine' March in London there are very limited signs with Hamas out. Should we start anti Hamas protests in the UK in solidarity with Gaza?

Wide angle photograph of hundreds of people walking through a street in Beit Lahia, northern Gaza as part of an anti-Hamas protest

Hundreds join largest anti-Hamas protest since Gaza war began

Masked Hamas militants dispersed protesters who gathered in northern Gaza to rally against the group.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g71lk09npo

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Martymcfly24 · 28/03/2025 15:50

What brave people to protest. Hopefully this is the beginning of change that will lead to a more peaceful future.

1dayatatime · 28/03/2025 20:40

MiseryIn · 28/03/2025 11:24

If the pro Palestinian protests moved to anti-Hamas I would support them. I won’t support them with the current narrative.

i hope this gains momentum. The constant anti-isreali rhetoric is ignorant.

Th is an excellent summary and I also completely share this view.

A lack of condemnation of Hamas on the numerous marches is actually very telling of the unspoken sentiment of the protesters.

DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 28/03/2025 20:45

EasternStandard · 27/03/2025 06:52

Yes agree generally with pp

Me too. I was very encouraged to see the anti-Hamas march by ordinary Palestinians.

OpheliaWasntMad · 29/03/2025 00:02

DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 28/03/2025 20:45

Me too. I was very encouraged to see the anti-Hamas march by ordinary Palestinians.

Yes . Doesn’t mean to say that the only problem Palestinians face is Hamas.
The Israeli extremists/ settlers have oppressed ordinary people and we see/know what they have done.
The extremists on both sides are ugly and reprehensible.

mids2019 · 29/03/2025 06:27

The issue is that any conflict is extremely complex and a simple narrative of Israel bad/Palestine good is wrong for anyone capable of critical thought. The description of Hamas thugs beating protesters is typical behaviour of an oppressive regime and Hamas is that amongst other heinous things.

The pro Palestine hate marches in London make no reference to Hamas ' role in the conflict and to my mind come across as a venue for expressing anti senitism and legitimacy for the removal of Israel as a state. I have no doubt some in those crowds that congregate in our major cities view these anti Hamas protesters in Gaza as traitors as they are abandoning the resistance who wish to drive Jews out of Israel.

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Twiglets1 · 29/03/2025 08:05

Report: Hamas may be open to freeing some hostages in exchange for Eid al-Fitr truce

Israeli television reported Friday that mediators see a willingness among some senior Hamas members to release a small number of hostages to secure a truce during the Ramadan-ending holiday of Eid al-Fitr.

The Kan public broadcaster acknowledged that it was still unclear what Hamas will ask in return for those it releases, though it did say that the freed hostages would include American-Israeli IDF lone soldier Edan Alexander, with the United States and Qatar intensively involved in the proposal.

Another Kan reporter said the deal was less about Eid al-Fitr and more to do with the protests that have broken out against Hamas throughout Gaza over the past several days.

Hamas wants to crack down on those participating in the protests and cannot do so due to Israel’s resumed operations in Gaza, as the military is targeting terror operatives that it spots out in the open, according to the report.

A ceasefire, even of several days, would allow for Hamas to rein in the protests, which have been a major source of distress within the Palestinian terrorist organization, the network claimed.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-hamas-may-be-open-to-freeing-some-hostages-in-exchange-for-eid-al-fitr-truce/

SharonEllis · 29/03/2025 08:15

Twiglets1 · 27/03/2025 07:53

Thank you - I tried to make it clear that I didn't think all marchers in the UK are pro Hamas (though some plainly are as we see from the placards) or that all Palestinians in Gaza share the same opinions either.

You were totally clear. It was not a 'gross generalisation' but completely and undeniably true.

mids2019 · 29/03/2025 08:24

That's interesting twiglets and just shows the reality of pooitics. Hamas are probably shitting themselves with the prospect of internal exception toppling them because that is probably as great a danger as Israeli action. The beginnings of a revolt in Gaza will impact peace talks above I have always thought any viable peace has to be predicated on the removal of Hamas. There can be no peace with Hamas.

How much attention will the media place on these nascent revolts? I don't know the answer to that but I am sure there will be some right on person coming along to say that it is Israeli propaganda.

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Twiglets1 · 29/03/2025 10:17

mids2019 · 29/03/2025 08:24

That's interesting twiglets and just shows the reality of pooitics. Hamas are probably shitting themselves with the prospect of internal exception toppling them because that is probably as great a danger as Israeli action. The beginnings of a revolt in Gaza will impact peace talks above I have always thought any viable peace has to be predicated on the removal of Hamas. There can be no peace with Hamas.

How much attention will the media place on these nascent revolts? I don't know the answer to that but I am sure there will be some right on person coming along to say that it is Israeli propaganda.

I agree there can be no peace with Hamas and that this is a turn of events they must be shitting themselves about.

I think the media are paying attention to these revolts and was encouraged to see it being reported in UK mainstream media like the BBC & The Telegraph.

Predictably Hamas are claiming that the growing Gaza protests against its rule are actually aimed at Israel but I think it's very clear as stated in this Sky news report that not all Gaza protests are necessarily 'anti-Hamas', but some are 'for sure.'

Whatsinanamehey · 29/03/2025 14:41

There was another strike on beit lahiya today, at this rate there's not going to be many left to protest against Hamas is there.

Whatsinanamehey · 29/03/2025 14:42

With how many people the IDF are killing everyday.

LittleBigHead · 29/03/2025 14:59

The pro Palestine hate marches in London make no reference to Hamas ' role in the conflict and to my mind come across as a venue for expressing anti senitism and legitimacy for the removal of Israel as a state.

Particularly if you add to that the Met Police policy to expel any obvious Jews from the sites of the pro-Palestine protests - Jewish men (identifiable by their yarmulkas) being told to leave the area; Jews being told they shouldn't travel into central London at the time of the protests etc.

The story was that it was for these peoples' safety, but really ...? The police were making a choice about whose safety mattered more. Jewish people were told to move on & not enter public space.

Jew hatred (or anti-semitism if you prefer a more sanitised term) is so insidious it's sometimes hard to recognise without this sort of reframing.

Martymcfly24 · 29/03/2025 15:13

I think seeing the protests in both Israel and Palestine this week against the ruling factions is encouraging. Hopefully it means that there is an appetite in both areas to put aside violence and work towards a peaceful resolution.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/gaza-anti-hamas-protests-palestine-israel-netanyahu-rcna198598

Strawberryjammam · 29/03/2025 15:19

I'm so proud of them for their bravery in standing up against Hamas. It must be terrifying.

Twiglets1 · 29/03/2025 15:22

Here’s hoping @Martymcfly24

Martymcfly24 · 29/03/2025 15:27

Strawberryjammam · 29/03/2025 15:19

I'm so proud of them for their bravery in standing up against Hamas. It must be terrifying.

Hopefully there will not be a backlash from Hamas because the protesters have nowhere to turn for support.

ImmediateReaction · 29/03/2025 16:55

Whatsinanamehey · 29/03/2025 14:42

With how many people the IDF are killing everyday.

Got to bring everything back to the idf. I guess most of us are happy that some brave Gazans are revolting against Hamas. Hence a thread about it. I mean without Hamas this particular conflict wouldn't have occurred, so hopefully with Israel attempting to rid hamas, and some gazans against them, it might happen

Twiglets1 · 30/03/2025 06:43

Hamas agrees to Gaza ceasefire proposal

Hamas has agreed to a Gaza ceasefire proposal it received two days ago from mediators Egypt and Qatar, the Palestinian militant group’s chief said on Saturday.

On Thursday, security sources said that Egypt had received positive indications from Israel over a new ceasefire proposal that would include a transitional phase. The proposal suggests Hamas release five of the Israeli hostages it is holding each week, the sources said.

The Israeli prime minister’s office said it had held a series of consultations according to the proposal that was received from the mediators, and that Israel had conveyed to the mediators a counter-proposal in full coordination with the United States.
The prime minister’s office was asked if it had also agreed to the ceasefire proposal but it did not immediately respond.

Israeli media suggested Hamas needs the ceasefire for a few days to suppress rare anti-Hamas protests that have been held by Palestinians in the enclave this week.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/03/29/hamas-agrees-gaza-ceasefire-proposal/

Alwayslookonthe · 30/03/2025 07:43

Looks like the Gazan protests may be over. Hamas are already cracking down on participants. It needs a ceasefire now to assert its authority.
Oday Nasser Al Rabay was kidnapped, tortured for hours then executed. His body was dumped at his house.

www.timesofisrael.com/gazan-man-murdered-by-hamas-after-joining-protests-against-terror-group/

User37482 · 30/03/2025 08:34

Martymcfly24 · 29/03/2025 15:27

Hopefully there will not be a backlash from Hamas because the protesters have nowhere to turn for support.

They’ve tortured and killed a 22yr old who was one of the leaders of the protests. His family have been out making statements demanding his murderers be brought to justice. I imagine there are more. I think thats kind of what has been missing from the conversation when people previously have said “well why don’t they rise up against Hamas”. Because this happens, Hamas are oppressors. I feel disgusted at anyone who supports them. They have form for disappearing people, journalists, activists etc. The people of Gaza have suffered enough, Hamas need to hand over the remaining hostages and disband and Israel needs to pull out.

BeHere · 30/03/2025 09:12

Whatsinanamehey · 29/03/2025 14:41

There was another strike on beit lahiya today, at this rate there's not going to be many left to protest against Hamas is there.

Don't worry, looks like Hamas are getting to the protesters first.

OpheliaWasntMad · 30/03/2025 09:30

Alwayslookonthe · 30/03/2025 07:43

Looks like the Gazan protests may be over. Hamas are already cracking down on participants. It needs a ceasefire now to assert its authority.
Oday Nasser Al Rabay was kidnapped, tortured for hours then executed. His body was dumped at his house.

www.timesofisrael.com/gazan-man-murdered-by-hamas-after-joining-protests-against-terror-group/

What a dreadful and heartbreaking position the Palestinians are in . Things will never improve for them while Hamas are still in control.
It’s a shame so many of the pro Palestinians were unable to see this earlier .

Whatsinanamehey · 30/03/2025 09:57

BeHere · 30/03/2025 09:12

Don't worry, looks like Hamas are getting to the protesters first.

All whilst Israel are murdering Palestinian children who are celebrating eid in their eid clothes. Killed in cold blood, they couldn't give them a break for one day could they. Scum!

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This is the aftermath of a strike in khan younis on Eid day. So many children dead on what is supposed to be the happiest day in the year for them.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DH0RwisqYJ6/?igsh=bzJ1aWVnZzluNWht

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DH0RwisqYJ6/?igsh=bzJ1aWVnZzluNWht

Martymcfly24 · 30/03/2025 10:09

What a desperate heartbreaking situation for Palestinian civilians. It's really caught between a rock and a hard place .

That poor man murdered and tortured for daring to try and trying to stand up to Hamas and their evil actions
8 children murdered in their tents by Israeli forces overnight on a day of celebration.

Surely the world has to start helping them. They are the pawn in the games