Breaking News - Shiri Bibas has not been returned

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https://news.sky.com/story/israel-says-it-has-not-received-hostages-remains-and-hamas-handed-over-unidentified-body-13313681

As if the anguish isn't enough!

Probably part of the 'resistance' that the marchers all chant about. Gormless.

It's disgraceful but I'm not surprised. Is she alive? Did they kill her another way and don't want that coming out. So they package up a Palestinian woman and send her body. Shows the lack of thought for the Palestinian woman and her family.

They are quite sick but then some of us knew that already abd weren't fooled by their 'resistance'.

What I found particularly distressing was the well fed healthy looking Palestinians and their families cheering and celebrating as the bodies of a baby, a four year old, their mum and an old man were handed to the Red Cross. What heroes Hamas are....
There's always posters on these threads going on about the children of Gaza and how dreadful the IDF are. They looked in pretty good shape to me dancing and singing on the stage where the coffins had been. A nice family day out for the people of Gaza.
Maybe Trump has the right idea after all.

It will be spun to blame Israel, it always is. The followers will lap it all up. They always do.

Hamas and the singing and dancing innocents showed us what they really are and what their aim is. We should we not believe them?

Are you saying you agree with ethnic cleansing then?

Apparently Hamas does.

That's not the question I asked though

Are you the poster that said "Hamas are fighting back in the only way they know how"?

😮 shocked, that's an awful thing to say.

It must be heartbreaking for the families of hostages to know that their loved ones are dead. It must be terrible to wait to receive their bodies and then for the wrong body to be given to them must give cause incredible sorrow and anger.

It troubles me though that the firm belief seems to be that Shiri Bibas and her children were murdered and the body of a Palestinian woman was deliberately handed over. That may be true - I don’t know. I feel like we should try and wait for more information. I don’t really understand what could possibly be gained by handing over the wrong body?

Is it possible that Shiri Bibas was killed in an Israeli airstrike as thousands of people living in Gaza have been? Bombs do not distinguish between hostages and Palestinians. I understand that Hamas has said for a year that she died in an air strike. Is it possible when retrieving the bodies from the rubble it was not possible (without DNA testing) to tell who was who?

@EmilyDickinson Unknown about Shiri, but IDF spokesperson just released following information:

*TRIGGER WARNING ‼️ *

We can confirm that baby Kfir Bibas, just 10 months old, and his older brother Ariel, aged four, were both brutally murdered by terrorists while being held hostage in Gaza no later than November 2023. These two innocent children were taken hostage alive, along with their mother, Shiri, from their home on October 7, 2023,” IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari says
“Contrary to Hamas’s lies, Ariel and Kfir were not killed in an airstrike. Ariel and Kfir Bibas were murdered in cold blood by terrorists,” he says. “The terrorists did not shoot the two young boys — they killed them with their bare hands. Afterwards, they committed horrific acts to cover up these atrocities. This assessment is based on forensic findings and intelligence that supports these conclusions. We have shared this intelligence and the forensic findings with our partners around the world so they can verify it.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-february-21-2025/#liveblog-entry-3487987

Just read it too. Absolutely horrible.

Omg. Such evil.

Oh bloody hell . No words. There just aren’t any .

Unfortunately Hamas lie and so do the IDF.

Are you suggesting IDF are lying about the forensic report?

However, I do wonder why the narratives that Hamas have provided since Oct 7th 2023 seem to be the ones that "peace" protestors( the world over and the majority of those who comment on CITME threads and elsewhere) are the prism through which they choose to see this conflict ( which they cannot even say Hamas started without "caveats").
The false equivalence between Hamas and the IDF as to who is worst has become but a high key tell as to where one's sympathies lie.
In other words it us usually the Hamas defenders who hide behind Palestinian Liberation who equivocate and find it very hard to admit Hamas evil without whataboutism.
I might could understand if I could see evidence of Hamas being as Pro Palestine as they are Pro Jewish and Israel extermination.

They have released the forensic report to the international community just so people like this can be countered. How dare you suggest the forensic report is a lie? A baby and toddler have been brutally murdered and their bodies abused. Their mother is....where? Disgusting.

Everything would have to be independently verified in the forensic report and forensic report has not been prepared independently.

What do you mean? They have shared the findings with international partners

I don’t trust IDF after they said they were beheaded babies and that was a lie. I am happy to here from any independent sources.

Nobody has seen it, so who knows.

News are there to stir up emotions and find a common enemy.....

I find it hard to believe that Hamas or the IDF are innocent bystanders in in the whole mess that is the Gaza strip.

Honestly this is a truly disgusting post.

Both sides are so dreadful it’s hard to know who is telling the truth and as ever it is the innocent people who suffer.

Thats not an answer to my question. The IDF has shared the findings for verification.

To come out with that comment on this thread is also disgusting.