To think Trump is unhinged

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As well as dangerous? He wants to help the Israelis in their ethnic cleansing of Gaza and own it so he can turn it into a holiday destination with the Palestinians packed off somewhere.

His greed really knows no bounds.

YABU - it’s a great idea, can’t wait to go to the new ‘riviera’!

YANBU - his threats to other countries and dangerous for the world.

Here's a runaway slave advert from thomas jefferson (he too owned 600 slaves as president, and raped at least one of them, Sally Hemings). He raped her and yet he was against race mixing (which was illegal there, with interracial marriage in america only becoming legal in 1967). jefferson in 1785 would also write:

"The improvement of the blacks in body and mind, in the first instance of their mixture with the whites, has been observed by every one, and proves that their inferiority is not the effect merely of their condition of life".

This is why jefferson is lauded (by racists) as the pioneer of scientific racism. He believed black people were inherently inferior in mind and body to whites (the Natives he regarded as "savages" as he declared in the white settler declaration).

Historians state roughly 58% of enslaved women in the america aged 15–30 years were sexually assaulted by their slave owners (including jefferson) and other white men. That's why the 43 million Africans in america today, the descendants of slaves, their genome is roughly 20-25% European.

Once you see the history of presidents, from the slave owning elite planter class of the first 80 years of the white settler entity, to T.Roosevelt (who advocated the complete elimination of the remaining Natives), to Harry Truman (who in 1962 on the possibility of interracial marriage becoming legal in america said: "I hope not; I don’t believe in it. Would you want your daughter to marry a Negro? She won't love someone who isn't her color."), you realise Trump is merely following in the footsteps of a long line of wretched individuals.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Run_away_from_the_subscriber_-_Thomas_Jefferson.png

I think when a narcissist is given so much confirmation by the public then that's when they become a danger. I'm not looking forward to the next four years at all and fully expect him to extend into a third term.

I’m holding on to this thought, that it’s all just noise and he’s just saying things that will never actually happen.

however, if they do, we’re in real trouble.

He told us what he was going to do; be a dictator from day 1.

He admires Putin and other "strong men"

He is behaving like a mafia don. It's worked for him in business and he'll carry on.

Musk is like the mad, megalomaniac, billionaire villain from comic books and films. Only thing is I don't think he lives inside a volcano or a mountain lair.

I wish dems and others realised they hadn't got rid of him last time. And put in effort over those 4 years to stop him being able to do this. The American constitution and government set up seems to have been devised to deal with normal policies who understand diplomacy etc. It's seemed great at the time but "they go low, we go high" has not worked out.

Oh, and here's abraham lincoln (one of the better presidents yes? Think again) in 1858 on the possibility of blacks getting the vote, being able to hold office, marry white people, basically have any rights beyond getting free of chains (and even on slavery lincoln was ambiguous):

"I am not, nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people. I as much as any man am in favor of the superior position assigned to the white race"

Here is a question, name the first decent human being who was president?

I'm struggling. You have to go beyond the state sanctioned extermination of the Natives era, the slave era, the segregation era....so you start at the 1970s. That was Richard Nixon, another racist and war monger. Reagan, another racist.

I'm thinking Obama as the first one.

Hi @user243245346

Re the pro-Palestine protesters - I have read that many of the younger ones actually voted for Trump rather than Harris, as they disapproved of the Democrats' pro-Israel stance. If this is true- and I have no idea one way or another- they should be examining their consciences now.

A state in which people are scared to,protest ( whatever their cause is) for fear of state retribution either to themselves or their institutions- is not a functioning democracy.

What do you think he said he was going to do that's not happening already?

Agree completely and totally about protest.

I think more than voting for Trump they protested by not voting, and some voted third party. Unfortunately, we're all reaping what they sowed.

Now it may not be true in all states, but some of them (like Florida) have seen clearly politically motivated targeting of liberal colleges in the state. Education in a broad sense is definitely in this administration's sights (and has been for some parts of the Republican party for a while).

I listened to a BBC sounds podcast about this. Its a while ago, and I've forgotten what happened to the residents that had been so badly bullied. It might still be available on Sounds.

Not reading about his plans to ethnically cleanse an area and destabilise the Middle East further for profit won't stop
It happening. Easy to see how the Nazis managed to go from 'resettlement' to murdering 6 million if this is how people react.

Sorry @user243245346 I of course meant peaceful protest not hate speech.

What I find tiresome is how these threads always attracts posters who make a virtue of apathy and ignorance.

The person supposedly occupying the role of leader of the free world shoots his mouth off, making statements that sound like something a despot would say and has already affected changes that directly impact lives - not ‘unhinged’ to either feel concern or to feel the need to discuss with others.

It’s a shame it’s all so boring for some, but, yes, I think we’re going to be hearing about and discussing Trump a lot for the foreseeable.

Who are you user243245346? Please stop spreading disinformation. See https://www.unrwa.org/unrwa-claims-versus-facts-february-2024. And sure, bombing and traumatising a population of 2 million, half of whom are children, then forcing them from their homeland is a really good way of "deradicalising" Palestinians. The really sad thing is, while the people in Gaza should be really, really angry, they are just trying to exist, look after loved ones, cling to what precious little they have and survive day to day. It would be great if this was all theoretical, but these are so many lives we are talking about, innocent people, young and old, and while it may all seem like a game to Trump - who probably is just posturing - and just a part of the negotiation, it is setting a terrible precedent for humanity.

You can’t stop Israel from harming them. Nobody can. It’s very tragic but they won’t respond to global action.

Not saying Trump’s idea is great. But I’m saying that the status quo was broken on October 7. We don’t know what comes next

The 'status quo' of living under occupation,? Of risking being killed or detained by Israel on a whim?

It's not viable for the Palestinians to go back to how it was on the 6th October. They were treated horrifically and enduring difficult lives under oppressive conditions.

I am not asking you to weigh the morality of their cause. I’m saying there is no realistic way to make that happen. What, are you going to war with Israel over Gaza?

Because that’s the only way to make this happen.

Only a few Gazans eh, who cares?
I don't want to go to war with anyone. I hate war.

I don't think it's right that the world stands by whilst total ethnic cleansing is added to the list of crimes against humanity committed against the Palestinians.

What we do about that is more difficult.

Would you stand by if Russia decided to seize and 'own' part of Israel and deported it's residents?

That sounds like the plan.

I don’t want my family to go to war for anything other than our own country so I’m not the person to ask.

I am just saying that you’ll never get the Israelis to back down unless you use force. They don’t care about being international pariahs.

I'm pretty sure that if the US withdrew support, that would have a significant impact without resorting to war.

They kill Iranian nuclear scientists … can’t imagine what they’d do to American politicians …

He's still in his home. Trump failed to force him out. https://metro.co.uk/2025/01/20/scathing-verdict-trump-corner-scotland-couldnt-conquer-22397636/

@Annoyeddd yep but ironic isn't it that lots of those people who will be on the receiving end also voted for him - to quote the sex pistols 'ever feel you've been had'

And yet, Biden couldn’t manage to even care about the integrity of women’s sports. Such a low-hanging fruit. Wonderful photo here—why couldn’t anyone else do it?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/6/trump-signs-order-to-bar-trans-women-and-girls-from-female-sports