To think Trump is unhinged

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As well as dangerous? He wants to help the Israelis in their ethnic cleansing of Gaza and own it so he can turn it into a holiday destination with the Palestinians packed off somewhere.

His greed really knows no bounds.

YABU - it’s a great idea, can’t wait to go to the new ‘riviera’!

YANBU - his threats to other countries and dangerous for the world.

He also said the 'Palestinians would be thrilled to leave' Which is so far from reality it beggars belief.

Does he actually believe the things he says

Wow
40,000 Palestinians murdered. The remaining few are not able to live safely.

Balls he is. As if the countries bordering Israel don’t have more concerns and investment in that conflict than the orange faced baboon sat on the US throne at the moment.

Nothing is stopping him,nothing at all.

Gangster man.

You think he cares about the US as an international broker? Where it costs him? No.

He'll help. But only if there is money in it for him. Look at NATO. That's next. Why would he underwrite this arrangement unless other countries making serious defence arrangements? He won't.

I’m sure this has always been his goal, and I think he’ll move hell and high water to make it happen.

And there’ll be many, many people cheering him on. It’s just mind-blowing.

@RingoJuice the Maghreb is a region of Northern Africa. Not the Levant. They even speak a completely different dialect of arabic.

I think there's a really high risk he'll get threatened militarily by China at this point, and then just unleash nuclear weapons to obliterate half the world.

I think the real threat is that China is listening to that and thinking 'well, fine, we can claim Taiwan, no probs.' And to be fair, China has MUCH more of a claim to Taiwan than the US to Gaza (or Greenland, or Canada, or Panama etc.)
It also makes Putin look better than he is - again, long history with Ukraine.

I am not saying that to justify China or Russia by the way! I am saying that because I wonder if the strategy is not to make those guys simply look better by normalising land grabs.

It's a new Yalta - a very stealthy one - in which the US, Russia and China carve up the world for the next century or so. I just wonder where we fit in...

He's an Imperialist, and he looks at expansion not as something to benefit people, but from a business point of view. The Art of The Deal. He is fucking outrageous, in my view.

Only if he’s the stupidest man alive. 40,000 slaughtered and yet the people are still returning to Gaza with the ceasefire in place.
It’s almost as if they consider it their homeland or something…

You are right. I meant Mashriq

Trump is an atheist. He has never opened a bible in his life. As your religion is everyone's business over there (and you must be religious) he has had to bullshit like the rest have done otherwise he would have never got elected.

He believes he is God.

I committed to doing the same thing. Let the US implode if that’s what they want, but now he’s coming for Canada, Mexico, Greenland, the Panama Canal, and now Gaza. It’s hard to ignore the ravings of a madman who has decided the whole world is his play thing.

I’d love to hear from all the MAGAs who said they voted for him because ‘they don’t want foreign wars’. It was always an excuse to cover for their racism, but what do they tell themselves now? Is there any cognitive dissonance happening or is it just too hard to compute?

I’d love to hear from all the MAGAs who said they voted for him because ‘they don’t want foreign wars’. It was always an excuse to cover for their racism, but what do they tell themselves now? Is there any cognitive dissonance happening or is it just too hard to compute

I am loving his domestic policies.

I am not a fan of this. I don’t want America to manage Gaza. I hope it’s a starting point to get Saudi or even the UAE to manage it. This would make
the most sense

Who is to stop him? I do not see anyone in prospect.

The Israelis will take this for what it is. A blank cheque to finish what they started

My dd's dh says the same, he's really worried for dd and himself. I'm worried for both of them too.

You're loving policies that lead directly to the deaths of women and children? Why?

And what domestic policies would those be?

But this was all in the plan. From last year.

Errr - can I just clarify, are you talking about turning Gaza into a labor camp?

No, they could possibly live and work in Saudi Arabia while waiting for things to be rebuilt

One of the things that exacerbates an already batshit situation is the incompleteness of the announcement, which allows the vacuum to be filled by ever-wilder speculation. Jared Kushner said a while ago that Gaza has some 'nice beachfront property' and then you get last night's gubbins about it being a Riviera. It is only a short leap of faith to see the whole purpose of this to seize Gaza to hand to billionaire chums to create a mega resort. That would be an outrageous theft to benefit individual oligarchs, all done to thunderous applause from Trump apologists.

If anyone can name one single instance of a forced relocation at any point in human history which has been positive then I might be tempted to reserve judgement until the details come out, but we know full well that there is no such thing. Here we're talking about two million people, a certain proportion of whom have a decades-long prediliction for terrorism, being permanently forced from their homes - if anyone thinks this will end the post-1948 conflict rather than make it an order of magnitude worse then please do enlighten us.

Another thing - I have been following Bibi Netanyahu's career since he emerged as the Israeli government's de facto English-language spokesman during the first Gulf War. Last night, behind the gurning, even he seemed stunned, which I've never seen before. His brother must be spinning in his grave.

Interesting. Seems like they may have floated this to Saudi Arabia as an economic opportunity. Will be difficult to persuade ANY of them to manage Gaza however. I hope we can, don’t want to be left holding the bag on Gaza.

Trump's pick to be ambassador to Israel

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/12/politics/mike-huckabee-palestinian-comments-trump-israel-ambassador/index.html

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who President-elect Donald Trump announced Tuesday was his pick to serve as US ambassador to Israel, previously argued that there was “no such thing as a Palestinian.”

Huckabee, who has been a strong defender of Israel throughout his career, made the statement during his 2008 presidential campaign, asserting that Palestinian identity was “a political tool to try and force land away from Israel.”

In a video obtained by CNN’s Andrew Kaczynski during Huckabee’s 2015 run for president, Huckabee suggested that if a Palestinian state were to be created, it should be in neighboring countries like Egypt, Syria or Jordan, rather than within Israel’s borders.

“Basically, there really is no such thing as — I need to be careful about saying this, because people will really get upset — there’s really no such thing as a Palestinian,” Huckabee said at a 2008 campaign stop in Massachusetts while speaking to two Orthodox Jewish men. “There’s not.”

In response to a question from one of the men about the possibility of a Palestinian state existing outside of Israel, Huckabee said he believed this was the preferable option.

“You have Arabs and Persians,” Huckabee continued at the 2008 appearance. “And there’s such complexity in that. But there’s really no such thing. That’s been a political tool to try and force land away from Israel.”

In the video, which was previously published by BuzzFeed, Huckabee added that he thought a Palestinian state could be made out of land in Egypt, Syria or Jordan. “My point is, if that’s the issue, if it’s real estate, if you look at a map, and say here is how much Israel has and here is how much the Arab states hold, there is plenty of land,” he said.

Huckabee reiterated that point during a 2015 interview on Israeli TV, in which he argued that a two-state solution was “irrational and unworkable” and said “there’s plenty of land” outside of Israel in the “rest of the world” for a Palestinian state.

Why would anyone invest in such a resort or ever visit it?

There would be constant terrorist attacks and threats. It just wouldn't be viable.