How the hell did the Israeli's mange to cause the exploding pagers?

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Just this is really ...how did they do it? Was this the secret service on steroids?

Oh you have Irish friends. Cool.

Maybe it should be brought up more and asked why people in the UK support a country that enacts apartheid and breeches International law in disturbing ways? Why would that be, surely that's more bizarre than a country against it?

I know that you support Israel and I know that Israel enact apartheid. The ICJ were clear on that.

It's due to a shared experience of occupation and oppression. That's the very simple reason that Palestine is a more prominent issue here than other far flung conflicts.
Now that suggests that you think that the Israel-Palestine conflict is thly one in the world thst is about 'occupation & oppression'. Precisely my point. Are you really saying that the Palestinians are the only people to suffer oppression in the world in recent times? Referring to the Limerick Pogrom was irrelevant because it was a long time ago, but referring to 'shared experience' of occupation in Ireland is not, even though Ireland has been an independent country for over 100 years and a very successful one?

Yes it's fucking ugly but there it is!
Ok, its obviously your right to ignore it, I guess some of us are not so comfortable with it, knowing where it leads.

No I'm not saying any of that. What an absolutely bizarre leap you've made. What a mad post.

Did you not read my post that you quoted? Ireland and Palestine have a special relationship. There have been links, communication, solidarity etc between the two countries going back decades. It shouldn't be so hard to understand.

Edited to add: the occupation of Ireland is not going back 100 years by the way. It's current.

Oh good lord.

Well yes, having a Irish husband does tend to mean I have Irish friends. Grow up.

This thread is like groundhog day. I give up, yes you are right Ireland are a disgraceful nation of hateful anti-semites.

But it's not. Because the Irish don't seem to care much about FAR FAR worse cases of war crimes. They are very selective about the causes they take up.
I mean, if it's war crimes they're concerned about, then the Irish should absolutely support Israel against Hezbollah. Not just because of the war crimes they have committed against ISrael but against the very Palestinians they purport to support.
And if it's apartheid you're concerned about, how about saying something about the treatment of Palestinians in Lebanon? They're not allowed to own land! Not allowed to work in many professions. Not given Lebanese citizenship despite being born there for soemtimes four generations.

You've missed out the 'something, something Hezbollah are a banned terrorist organisation that are the aggressors in their conflict with Israel.'

I guess you don't want to acknowledge or address those indisputable facts...

Oh I'm sorry. We'll let you get back to bashing another country. Along with the many hundreds of other threads doing the same.

This thread was initially very interesting with some pretty informed posters until the usual echo chamber turned up to bark at anyone who didn't dance to their tune while offering no substantive and evidenced points.

I think it all got derailed by someone coming on and crowing about how great Ireland is because it hates Israel

I do hate Irish antisemites. Don't you?

Of course but your statements are blanket statements about an entire nation

Who did that? point out the post that started the derailment by
crowing about how great Ireland is because it hates Israel?

I didn't see it

So you decide to bash Ireland instead? no other country just Ireland.

And BTW my thoughts on Irish anti-semtiism and anti-Israelism has nothing to do with Ireland recognizing a Palestinian State. Personally, totally fine with it. It's a bit meaningless really as we are further from there actually being a Palestinian state than we ever have been but I'm totally fine with this being the end goal and if somehow recognising an entity that doesn't actually exist in reality will help make it exist, fine by me. You can be both pro-Israel and pro-Palestine - you know, wanting both sides to prosper and do well. It's not a zero sum game (unless you're Hezbollah).

I'm not "bashing Ireland" as you well know. I mean I could bash French antisemites too, how long have you got? Being part French I love France and it doesn't mean I'd be bashing France, just the antisemites, of which there are very many indeed.

This.

Omg if you knew me at all 😂 I am not one to ignore ANY hatred or prejudice! Don't you worry about me and my ability to silence hatred when I see it. Like most Irish people I know in fact. They don't tolerate it for a second. And that's why Israel hates us right now!

Literally nobody said, or even implied that, did they?

In fact it might even mean you have more hatred for Irish people 😂

Lalaloveya · 18/09/2024 15:19
Ireland is against occupation and colonialism, for obvious reasons. Also the country has a defence force rather than a military and prides itself on its peacekeeping missions, UNIFIL included. Leaders speaking out against war crimes and breaches of international law should be welcomed.

To be fair, derailment was already under way but a bit sickening to see this misplaced pride, as though somehow Ireland is a moral giant