Anonymous hacks Israeli Security Ministry - gives 48 hours to end the genocide

[Finallyloggedin]

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/anonymous-hacks-israeli-security-ministry--gives-it-48-hrs/

I’ve only read this here, so not sure if it is accurate, but if it stops the genocide, please god let this be true 🙏🙏🙏

As a general observation and not specifically about anyone in particular:

It’s staggering that people can be so active on these threads (so one would deduce that they feel passionately about the region) but still be unaware of the extent to which the Israeli government and idf are committing heinous war crimes. Every single day.

Surely if you care about the region and it’s inhabitants you should be actively campaigning for a ceasefire and a two state solution. Not constant criticism of others who are trying to protect the poor Palestinians from this bloodthirsty army, but actually trying to do something yourself.

i remember a really moving speech posted by @ahnowted, I think It was, but I may be wrong. The speaker obviously knew the area well, perhaps a journalist but I can’t recall for sure, argued that if you object to Hamas being the spokespeople for the Palestinians, then become that yourself. Don’t leave it to Hamas, provide a voice of reason yourselves. You can want peace for Israel and for Palestine. But without peace for Palestinians, and in the current situation where you have an army acting so despicably, sniping toddlers, etc, obviously the vast majority of the world are going to horrified.

And before anyone asks - the difference between what Israel are doing now and October 7th is that this is ongoing. Children are being killed in the most horrific ways hour after hour, day after day. So if you don’t want Israel to become a pariah state, be the ones to voice your objections. Speak up for the Palestinians. You will also be helping Israel in the long run if you do.

Good for you. I wasn't even talking to you.

It would not be unrealistic to reclassify drugs as chemical weapons/wmd when you really quantify the effect they have on societies.

Wasn’t the point that even evil Moroccan drug smugglers, who normally care for nothing but money, balked at carrying out their normal trade with Israeli drug dealers because they wanted to show solidarity with the Palestinians?

It is not that drug dealing per se is a good thing.

Exactly this!

Of course that was the point, it was quite obvious. And I don't for one minute think that anyone was suggesting that the drug dealers were a good thing! Anyway I'm sure the drugs trade in Israel will be fine without Morocco.

Exactly the point. I was using it as an example that even people that would be considered a scourge on society have the capacity to see that what is happening in Gaza is abhorrent.

I think more to the point Morocco will be fine without Israel as Israel accounts for a very small part of their market. So they get all the brownie points with minimal financial hit. Everyone's a winner!

Quite. It’s a disgusting, vile comment but you’re not going to get someone that entrenched to change their view.

Well exactly and what if all of the nobody mners get what they want and all those ranting from the river to the sea ...you get the complete annihilation of the Israeli state and Hamas at the helm of a nation that never existed in the first place. Then what?

There won't be a group of fluffy kind people starting a democracy, there will be another Arab failed state like Syria.

Are any of you protesting any of the other oppressions of people on a global scale or is it just this one?

@HowIrresponsible there is no need to be so rude!

Genuine question - what (and who) do you think were the causes of syria becoming a failed state? (I’m not sure of the definition of ‘failed state’ but I’m just going by you describing it in that way).

Well, they tell us they are equally concerned about all the other human rights abuses in the world and not in any way obsessed with Israel, but yes, very clued up about everywhere else. But then @Finallyloggedin questions whether Syria is a failed state, when its been fairly regularly discussed over many years that it fits the definition pretty well A state that murders its own citizens, that allows over 600,000 of its citizens to be killed, an ongoing humanitarian crisis and thousands and thousands to leave as refugees, including unaccompanied children. I think that meets the threshold of a state that is failing to meet the economic, social & political needs of its citizens.

Well, they tell us

Whose they?

Well exactly and what if all of the nobody mners get what they want

Please enlighten us on what you think the "nobody" mumsnetters want?

Interesting that some posters are just opting for slagging off and attempting to belittle posters now

They made a substantive point, as did I, which you are choosing to ignore!

People still wheeling out the argument that being against the Israeli offensive in Gaza, is proof of antisemitism, unless you also demonstrably (on mumsnet) focus as much on all other human rights abuses.

Without managing to factor in ….

• this was enabled and supported by the Conservative government, and that members of the public don’t like being told to ignore, and condone, the suffering of innocent children.

• that the number of children being killed, and the speed at which this happened, is horrific. In November 23 UNICEF said Gaza was the most dangerous place to be a child.

Nobody should have to defend themselves against such slanderous claims, for simply wanting an end to the cruelty and destruction in Gaza. The spotlight needs to stay on those committing these crimes.

As things go, it’s a nonviolent pressure and better than a UN peacekeeping force invading Israel and killing alot of IDF to do it.

I wasn’t questioning whether it was a failed state, I was asking what the poster believed caused it to be one. As in, what events led up to it becoming a failed state? And which other countries were involved in these events?

and there is no need for you to be so rude, either. It is unnecessary and cheapens any argument you have.

You tagged who your substantive point was directed at so I assume they will respond to you.

I was referring to
Well, they tell us they are equally concerned about all the other human rights abuses in the world and not in any way obsessed with Israel, but yes, very clued up about everywhere else.

Who is they? The passive aggressive tone and lumping all posters in to one just gets peoples backs up. Tag what posters you are referring to, we are all individuals here not one en masse group

Are there any other countries currently at war/in conflict that you think the UN peacekeepers should invade and kill their military personnel in large numbers? Do you think this is a viable option?

You seriously believe the Moroccan drug dealers are doing this because they care about Palestinians?

I've read an awful lot of made up shite on this forum, but I can't fathom how even as you typed that, you believed it wasn't complete rubbish??

Haaretz (Israeli newspaper)
Feb 2024

High Stakes: Moroccan Hashish Dealers Reportedly Boycott Israel, Cite Palestinian Suffering

Although exporting Hashish to Israel was incredibly lucrative to dealers in Morocco, they are no longer willing to sell to Israeli dealers: 'Why Should Israelis be able to make a living selling Moroccan hashish when our Palestinian brothers are suffering from hunger?'

Hashish dealers in Morocco have said they will stop supplying to Israel in light of the war in Gaza, as reported by Israeli news site Mako on Friday.