This is the reality of Hamas

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This is a very interesting opinion piece and underlines how difficult it is and has been for Israel.

There must be more international calls for Hamas to be removed from Gaza.

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2023/11/17/cole-the-reality-of-hamas/

There are no words. I don’t care how successfully those murderers and rapists and their cheerleaders have marketed themselves as ‘freedom fighters’, they are evil.

Sick. They shout God is Great whilst they sodomise, rape and murder. What God wants them, if Satan exists then they follow him. Sick depraved and yet celebrated in the streets afterwards. Sick and sad and it's led to war.

They have many apologists.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9drj14e0lo

That's absolutely dreadful but why have you posted in the Hamas thread. There are many, many more threads about the idf.

Has everyone been living under a rock.

Kids TV is Gaza teaches them to hate Jews and become a martyr.

See for yourself. There is no reversing this hatred. There is no peace to be had. They are literally teaching children to be suicide bombers.

EDIT and that YouTube post is FIFTEEN years old. They've been indoctrination kids for decades and it will not stop.

The hatred might end when Hamas and their followers care more about their children than they hate Israelis. Currently being a martyr seems more important

15 years teaching hatred to kill and here we are months after the biggest killing spree of hatred involving rape, buggery, torture, kidnap and murder on Oct 7th. Celebrations in the street followed and then the horror of War. To what end. Its all awful and pointless.

Exactly.

Also if Israel was no more then Palestine would be yet another Arab failed state and hotbed of terrorism. They won't ever stop.

Palestine and Hamas hate Israel more than they care about their children

What, like the offer to become Israeli citizens, with all the rights it carries?

The children in that video of 15 years ago are now adults in their 20s. Hamas trained them well for 7th October alright.

These are the people that most of the world inexplicably want to take over the only democracy in the middle east.

Israeli children are taught to hate and fear Palestinians at least in some schools.

Palestinians children have experienced things at the hands of Israelis over many years causing them to hate and fear Israelis.

This is about Hamas, including Israelis setting the dog on the man with Doens Syndrome. Hamas exists as the other side of the same coin.

It is sadly an endless circle.

@ScrollingLeaves No, Hamas and the Israeli state are not remotely comparable. For a start Israel doesn't use its children and civilians as human shields and nor are Palestinian children and civilians, ever, a military target. That's quite a big difference.

"nor are Palestinian children and civilians, ever, a military target."

45 American doctors say otherwise.

“Every single signatory to this letter treated children in Gaza who suffered violence that must have been deliberately directed at them. Specifically, every one of us on a daily basis treated pre-teen children who were shot in the head.”

www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/25/israel-gaza-war-biden-letter

There are other threads for you to slag off Israel again...this one is about Hamas and what they're doing.

Their testimony is here if you care to read it.

x.com/ferozesidhwa/status/1816488896005648589?s=46&t=tm415yZZZz0e-dE263leqA

This is about Hamas, including Israelis setting the dog on the man with Doens Syndrome. Hamas exists as the other side of the same coin.

Nope, this thread is about Hamas. If you want to discuss Israelis and dogs you already have upwards of 500 other threads to do so. Although some posters are so far gone on there that it wasn't that long ago some of you were giving serious discussion to the IDF specifically training dogs to rape Palestinian women. Because some random on Twitter said so, so it must have been true.

One of the sickest things I have ever seen on MN. I would guess it was probably at that point a lot of posters left the CITME board.

@AhNowTed is it going to make me change my mind about hamas?

Yes. It's supposed to be about hamas but some posters cannot allow that.

The dogs made to rape story was a particularly sick thing to invent. I avoid those threads now as many other posters do. To some hamas apologists everything is justified. They keep popping over the few threads about hamas or threads about the hostages to derail though. It appears 500 threads aren't enough.

Firstly you're not the thread police so people can post what they like

Secondly you're not slagging off Hamas you are equating Palestinians with Hamas and dehumanising Palestinians in the process. The majority of posters on these threads are extremely careful not to equate innocent Israelis with the a actions of their government and military, your hate for Palestinians is showing and clear for all to see. @US2gether yours too.

Say what you want about Hamas no one supports them but many posters will have an issue with you equating innocent Palestinians with Hamas. I get it you hate Palestinians that's obvious but stop dehumanising them here.

You have hundreds of threads to slate Israel and you do. Carry on. Some of us avoid them. You cannot possibly leave one thread slating Hamas alone. Interesting.

You missed what I said, that some things exist only because of another. That is the dynamism.

For example, I could have a thread about Israel bombing Palestine. Someone might come on to say they are doing that because of Hamas attacking, raping, murdering and capturing Israelis on Oct 7. Would I be right to say, go away, we are only talking about what Israel does?

Why are you talking about IDF dogs raping?

What's interesting is that you keep saying Palestinian not Hamas. As I've said talk about Hamas all you like but don't equate innocent Palestinians with Hamas.

You have hundreds of threads to slate Israel and you do.
Whose you?

The majority of posters are not slating Israel they are slating Netanyahu and the IDF. Most don't blame innocent civilians for the actions of their government as you are doing

I don't believe Palestinians object to what hamas do. They were seen to be celebrating October 7th.

I believe they support hamas in full and have no desire for peace.