Israel Gaza war: ICC prosecutor seeks arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Hamas leaders

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3ggpe3qj6wo

I think that the US and UK will be putting themselves in a really bad position unless they respect the outcome of this, and can restrain themselves from trying to pull the strings. A lack of respect for international law is not a good look, it makes for poor global relations, and one day they might want it to be upheld to protect themselves.

China / Russia are looking to have some sort of "autocratic leadership" in a multipolar world particular with the "Global South". This is a god given bonus to them to say looks at your international rules based order , look at your lecturing on human rights and moral authority. Your emporer has no clothes. Don't lecture us on Ukraine or the Uyghers or Tibet - we ain't listening and we don't care. Like Israel and the US they aren't signatories either. Very convenient.

Qatar's not a signatory either so don't know what that will mean wrt to removing Hanihya from his bolthole

It is really tiresome the constant accusations of antisemitism for anyone who dares criticis the actions of the Israeli government. I'm sick of it. Its not just individual posters that have been accused of antisemitism. I've seen the UN, the WHO, the UK, the ICC and other international organisations all accused of antisemitism over these threads. One poster on the "AMA I live in TelAviv", and others piled on to agree, called the UN Nazis.

Wake up, no genocide should be accepted, by anyone. It has nothing to do with people's religious beliefs and everything to do with murdering and starving children. That goes for both sides. Lock them all up!!!

A lack of respect for international law is not a good look,

Depends. Some countries like the UK seem get a real macho kick from it.

Sadly your correct. One rule for them...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/21/israel-calls-on-civilised-nations-to-boycott-icc-arrest-warrants-against-its-leaders

Biden says what ever suits American foreign policy best. Incase you haven't noticed the west doesn't have many friends in the middle east.... double standards to an extreme, we are in no doubt about the pit falls of politics influencing and being more important than a human life, when it comes to world politics. He'd had to air drop and build an entire pier because they arnt letting life preserving supplies though. I think his actions say more than his words...

@Mummy2024 I did NOT say and nor do I support indiscriminate bombing and deliberate starvation. Your posts to me are inflammatory and goady.

Stop now please.

Punishing for doing their job?

Well your denying it equates to genocide arnt you? And calling anyone that wants it to stop antisemitic? This is the first comment you've actually responded on that I've written and it was to silence me... if I'm wrong say so... I'll happily appologise and I'll be very glad I'm wrong.

I apologise if I've gotten the wrong impression from your posts, if I could remove the specific comment I would but I'm still trying to find out how to do so on here. Hopefully mum's net will do it for me.

He's Trump's lap dog in the House that has denied aid for 6 months to Ukraine because ...Trump. Daddy Trump doesn't like the rule of law anywhere....

I feel sorry for the prosecutors they are noble honourable people with impeccable careers. They have put their personal safety on the line for just following the law. According to Netanhayu he is the most notorious anti-semite since WW2 (he really said that).

Karim is a barrister and King's Counsel with more than 30 years of professional experience as an international criminal law and human rights lawyer. He has extensive experience as a prosecutor, victim's counsel and defence lawyer in domestic and international criminal tribunals, including, but not limited to, the International Criminal Court, International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, International Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia, the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia, the Special Tribunal for Lebanon and the Special Court for Sierra Leone. He has also represented victims of human rights violations in Africa and Asia. Karim is a Bencher of Lincoln's Inn and was appointed a Recorder of the Crown Court in 2018. He was elected as the second President of the ICC Bar Association in July 2017 and is a worldwide Ambassador of the African Bar Association. He has published a number of leading texts on international criminal law and is the co-author of 'Archbold International Criminal Courts', now in US 5th edition.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/about/otp/who-s-who/karim-khan

Wow - now accusing me of supporting genocide.

It's not my intention to suggest that nor did I say you support it i said you don't believe it is genocide? Is that not correct or inferred from your posts?

Did you mean my original post that offended you? My wording wasn't great and I do apologise, your absolutely right, you didn't say you supported what I wrote. I will contact mums net and have It removed if possible. Tensions are high on this issue because of what is happening to thousands of people through no fault of their own and we are helpless to do anything to help them, feelings run high. But you are owed an apology for what I wrote.

I've asked for the offensive post to be removed. I want to make clear I am sorry, it wasn't even meant to infer that you support genocide. I was under the impression you didn't believe it was genocide, therefore I didn't for one second think that you would take that as me saying you support genocide, now that you have, I've done all I can to remove it.

If people think an arrest warrant should not be sought for Netanyahu, presumably that is on the basis of thinking he is not responsible for the alleged offences. I would suggest that those people spend a few minutes looking at the horrendous images and reports of suffering coming out of Gaza, and ask themselves if what they are seeing and reading should be allowed to happen with no challenge or consequence?

It's easy to detach from what thousands of deaths actually looks like when you don't have to see it. Look at the people. Hear their stories. Read what we who are bearing witness to this have to say. The dead are our loved ones. Our friends, families and colleagues.

If you do not believe that international bodies should apply their standards to the people leading the force and government carrying out the acts killing our loved ones, then have the courage to see, hear and know the lives lost that you are therefore saying mean less than your own.

A journalist inquired of Mahatma Gandhi, “What do you think of Western civilization?” He retorted, “I think it would be a good idea.”

I don't think it'll catch on, though.