Israel Gaza war: ICC prosecutor seeks arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Hamas leaders

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3ggpe3qj6wo

No we should still arrest Mr Putin also, it is more difficult with WMD involved to enter Russia. It will lead to armagedon. I think other methods of apprehension would need to be employed.

However I still feel the actions of Mr Netanyahu versus the actions of Mr Putin has really shown us the true gravity of what has happened in Gaza in just 6 months and the double standards employed when it suits by certain leaders. Some have behaved more than fairly such as Germany and a few others. I have huge respect for that.

10,000 In 2 years btw, not 35000 in 6 months.... the time and methods used matter greatly, and they have shown me the true gravity of horrendous treatment and suffering that the palastinians are facing.

Secondly I've already said if Hamas leaders remain at large when this is over yes other countries should enter and hold them to account. If it wouldn't cause a world ending apocalypse any leader with a warrent for arrest should be apprehended but sadly we are where we are and wmds exist and are preventing it.

No one wants more people to die.... least of all me... I want Israel to arrest Mr Nethyahu and hand him over.... same for any leader with an arrest warrant for crimes against humanity, the reality is, it isn't going to happen.

If humanity wants atrocities like this to stop happening we Need to stop allowing perpetrators to shelter in protected countries. What is the point in these laws if we allow perpetrators of breaking them to go unpunished?

It's all just lipservice to doing the right thing. There's no appetite to acctually do the right thing and that leaves every single one of us at risk of becoming victims of it.

Israel most likely has nuclear weapons too. But you still want an invasion bu (presumably) the UK and the open war it would lead to.

I'd you don't want more people to die, stop calling for an invasion, which will lead to more people dying.

I'm not calling for an invasion of anywhere I've already stated that....

Israel has the right to exist I've already stated that also, this fixation on my opinion of how we should as a human race ensure these laws are enforced is being fixated on by certain individuals, who keep showing sheer outrage at the idea of conflict In one country but have absolutely nothing to say about what's happening right now at this moment in another.

How would you say we should bring people named on these warrants to trial?

You can continually say you want a foreign army to march into a country and say your not calling an invasion, but you are.

I'm no expert but AFAIK the way these arrest warrant are usually carried out is if the person it pertains to lands on foreign soil. If Putin lands on foreign soil we are legally obliged to obtain him. But that doesn't mean marching our troops into Moscow. E.g. invading Moscow. Because that's what an invasion is.

@Mummy2024 I’m pretty certain nobody in their right mind would think you are calling for an invasion. Surely this poster is winding you up.

They've jumped on my words and twisted them presumably to make me out to be a bad person and yet they have nothing at all to say about the fact that what they say I am suggesting is already happening right now to palastinians. It says more about them than it does me to be honest. The double standards on show are clear for anyone to see.

So if someone said "I want a foreign army to march into this country uninvited, gonll the way to the capital and arrest the leader" what would you call it? A friendly visit?

A foreign army coming to serve justice is what I would call it... its only an invasion if the armed forces of said country are against it.... personally if it was my country I'd have absolutely no issue with it, in the interest of humanity as a whole.

You think the IDF would be fine with the British army marching into Israel to arrest their prime minister? Seriously?

And there have been plenty of Invasions throughout history that some would have called serving justice. Many in the Israeli government would think that what's happening in Gaza is serving justice. We were serving justice when we invaded Iraq. Putin probably thinks he's serving justice. Doesn't mean they weren't Invasions that resulted in war and death.

You've just said it right there.... many in the Israeli government think they are serving Justice. The reality is in the beginning they were.....

Until someone decided to use methods incompatible with inncoent civillian human life..... who ever made those decisions should face justice.

By the way... Tony Blair lied to this nation regarding Iraq. So yes that should have lead to justice aswell. Just because it has England's name written all over it doesn't mean England is to blame... same for Israel and for palastine. Individuals are responsible and any found guilty should be held to account.

Yes the Israeli government answered death with more death. And you want to answer that with even more death.

So maybe... IDK... France or someone should land their military on our shores and arrest Tony Blair. I'm sure the army and government will just let them and nothing bad will come of it.

No I don't I want 0 death... I want the citizens of Israel to allow people In to ensure Mr Nethayahu gets a free and fair trial.... and if he is innocent then he can turn around and walk back out...

There would only be death is other people didn't want that but then my question is why wouldn't they? If we allow a person to do this to others, what's to stop another human doing this to us?

I'd be fine with that... I'm saddened that would be needed, we should have ensured it happened ourselves tbh

You realise I was being sarcastic when I said the government and army would be fine with it right? You'd be fine with war berween France and the UK?

So if anyone tries to stop a foreign army invading (so the whole of the Israeli army doing their job basically) they deserve to die. And anyone who isn't actually trying to stop them but gets caught in the crossfire they also deserve to die. And you actually called another poster heartless.

Of course they don't deserve to die, they are your words not mine... People do love to make my words Into violent ones and yet sit back and say nothing to end the eye-wateringly high civilian death toll in palastine... they say nothing about that... no person deserves to die not even those found guilty of Genocide they should just be imprisoned for life. It seems most people Answering me are fine for the laws of war to be broken and woman and children, slain with no consequences for people who made those decisions but one suggestion of other nations actually stepping in to ensure the laws of humanity are followed is evil. It actually beggars belief if I'm honest. It really does.

The palastinians don't deserve to die right now either do they but they are.... in the thousands

You know what else maybe if we acctually took action against people making these decisions there would be far less killing and death??

Being prosecuted for war crimes would be a pretty good deterrent to stop genocides or actions that could cause one wouldn't you say?

But no let's let them off instead?? so that there is no deterrent for the next person.

These laws were made as a deterrent they are no deterrent if not enforceable and that leaves us all vunerable to genocide. If people can't see that then there is nothing I can say or do but what I do know is that I'm no advercate for more killing and death but I do want to prevent war crimes

You said "No I don't I want 0 death". And that "There would only be death is other people didn't want that but then my question is why wouldn't they?" which kind of implies that if anyone dies trying to stop an invading army it's their fault.

If another countries army enters Israel without the permission of the government (a.k.a invades) then the Israeli army will fight back, because that is their job. Then people will die. Combatants from both sides and civilians.

And you can't accuse me of putting words in your mouth and them say that I (assuming I'm included in 'most people Answering me") want the laws of war to be broken and women and children to be slain.

Taking action in the way you sp desperately want would involve killing and death, what is so hard to comprehend about that?

I do how it funny that you want Israel to be invaded and Netanyahu to be arrested, The UK to be invaded and Tony Blair arrested, Gaza to be invaded and the Hamas leaders arrested but not Russia. "Mr. Putin" doesn't have a high enough death toll for you.

Of course not but I wouldn't blame France either I'd blame my own government for ordering our armed services to unleash war on France because they demanded the apprehension of a potential war criminal....