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keenforhelp · 28/05/2024 13:58

Auvergne63 · 28/05/2024 13:46

That is not why your post was Islamophobic, as you well know.
It's because you seem to conflate faith and culture and that being a Muslim, in your eyes, means being an Islamist.

No it does not mean that in my eyes.

keenforhelp · 28/05/2024 14:00

Mellowdramadrama · 28/05/2024 13:38

@keenforhelp does Keir Starmer have a unconscious bias in your opinion?
Because his wife and children are Jewish?

Interesting question and I just found this article:
https://www.thejc.com/news/our-family-treasures-our-shabbat-dinners-says-keir-starmer-hrnmdcu7

Honestly - who knows? Unconscious bias is a thing but Starmer was head of the CPS so hope he is not biased to anything.

Our family treasures our Shabbat dinners, says Keir Starmer

The Labour leader's wife is Jewish and the family are members at London’s Liberal Jewish Synagogue

https://www.thejc.com/news/our-family-treasures-our-shabbat-dinners-says-keir-starmer-hrnmdcu7

Auvergne63 · 28/05/2024 14:00

keenforhelp · 28/05/2024 13:58

No it does not mean that in my eyes.

What does it mean then?

keenforhelp · 28/05/2024 14:02

Auvergne63 · 28/05/2024 14:00

What does it mean then?

I mean we have to be mindful of unconscious bias.

Efacsen · 28/05/2024 14:04

IDK maybe I'm wrong but my understanding is that the final arbiter of

-racism is black people/POC
-homophobia is gay people
-antisemitism is Jewish people
-islamophobia is people of the Muslim faith

Just for a bit of consistency if nothing else

keenforhelp · 28/05/2024 14:11

Efacsen · 28/05/2024 14:04

IDK maybe I'm wrong but my understanding is that the final arbiter of

-racism is black people/POC
-homophobia is gay people
-antisemitism is Jewish people
-islamophobia is people of the Muslim faith

Just for a bit of consistency if nothing else

Agreed so I will bow to what you have all said in your perception but it was not intentional.

Efacsen · 28/05/2024 14:18

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keenforhelp · 28/05/2024 14:24

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Can you explain this acronym?

EasterIssland · 28/05/2024 15:47

Thanks @Efacsen for bringing the news. ICC have suffered loads of threads in the last few weeks. Everyone that has tried that should be prosecuted for it

Efacsen · 28/05/2024 15:51

EasterIssland · 28/05/2024 15:47

Thanks @Efacsen for bringing the news. ICC have suffered loads of threads in the last few weeks. Everyone that has tried that should be prosecuted for it

That poor woman I don't know how she kept her sanity but she persevered despite the 'stalkery' intimidation for nine years

anotherlevel · 28/05/2024 15:55

@keenforhelp

Deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender (DARVO) is a tactic a person may use to deflect responsibility onto an individual they have abused. It is a form of manipulation a person may use to discredit a survivor's experience.

Scirocco · 28/05/2024 16:08

keenforhelp · 28/05/2024 13:08

What is this person's name?

Why is it relevant?

keenforhelp · 29/05/2024 23:51

anotherlevel · 28/05/2024 15:55

@keenforhelp

Deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender (DARVO) is a tactic a person may use to deflect responsibility onto an individual they have abused. It is a form of manipulation a person may use to discredit a survivor's experience.

Thank you for your explanation and explains why @Efacsen 's post was deleted then.

Efacsen · 30/05/2024 15:33

The Guardian's picture editor is naughty - always the most unflattering photos!

Parkingt111 · 30/05/2024 15:47

@Efacsen 😂😂 I have noticed that too

Dulra · 30/05/2024 16:03

Efacsen · 30/05/2024 15:33

The Guardian's picture editor is naughty - always the most unflattering photos!

Probably hard to find a flattering one. He does look very grey though, last 6 months obviously taking its toll

Efacsen · 30/05/2024 16:07

Dulra · 30/05/2024 16:03

Probably hard to find a flattering one. He does look very grey though, last 6 months obviously taking its toll

Hope so

Someone posted a pic of him from 20 yrs ago ?when he was ambassador to the US and he was not unattractive - must be all those years of hate

Dulra · 30/05/2024 16:12

Efacsen · 30/05/2024 16:07

Hope so

Someone posted a pic of him from 20 yrs ago ?when he was ambassador to the US and he was not unattractive - must be all those years of hate

To be fair I looked a lot better 20 years ago too!!!

Efacsen · 30/05/2024 16:18

Dulra · 30/05/2024 16:12

To be fair I looked a lot better 20 years ago too!!!

Me too!

Just had a look didn't realise he's 74

Mummy2024 · 31/05/2024 16:04

Ategnatos · 23/05/2024 20:59

Jesus fucking Christ.

Then what? After Israel have been invaded by some unspecified country and you manage to arrest Netanyahu at the cost of many lives what happens to Israel? Which is probably still at war with the country that just invaded them.

Israel will be protected of course. It has a right to exist but no one is above the law both should face justice.

Mummy2024 · 31/05/2024 16:07

Ategnatos · 24/05/2024 08:59

I was responding to the poser who thinks another country should go after Israel. If you want to know what happens to Palestinians in their little fantasy, ask them not me.

What a heartless response tbh....

Mummy2024 · 31/05/2024 16:10

Ategnatos · 24/05/2024 08:59

I was responding to the poser who thinks another country should go after Israel. If you want to know what happens to Palestinians in their little fantasy, ask them not me.

Oh and your wrong I don't think another country should go after Israel at all and it isn't what I said. I said they should enter arrest the leader and then leave.... its not quite the same. Netanyahu isn't a country he's a person, a person who isn't above the law.

Ategnatos · 31/05/2024 16:21

Mummy2024 · 31/05/2024 16:10

Oh and your wrong I don't think another country should go after Israel at all and it isn't what I said. I said they should enter arrest the leader and then leave.... its not quite the same. Netanyahu isn't a country he's a person, a person who isn't above the law.

Edited

You said you want an unspecified foreign army to invade Israel and arrest Netanyahu. That sounds like going after Israel to me.