Anti-Muslim hate has increased since 7-10

[EasterIssland]

Out of the 901 off-line cases of anti-Muslim hate, there were 535 reports of abusive behaviour, 77 threats, 83 assaults, 79 acts of vandalism, 69 cases of discrimination, 39 acts of hate speech and 19 examples of anti-Muslim literature.

https://news.sky.com/story/335-rise-in-anti-muslim-hate-cases-in-uk-since-hamass-attack-on-7-october-13078030?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

If people were genuinely commiting hate crimes against Muslim people because they were scared they were extremists (which would still be ridiculous) then Muslim men and women would be being attacked equally.

But as it is the majority are against Muslim women and the perpetrators are more often than not men.

This is just another instance of male violence against women, with religion just thrown in as a convenient excuse.

My Muslim friends are the first to repost any Jews who are protesting the actions of the IDF, and there are many.

Curious though that rampant anti-muslim rhetoric carries with it absolutely no consequence on a person's livelihood, it almost seems to be encouraged. Hmm, curious really.

Nobody has said anti-Muslim hate is ok. People have pointed out recent events have caused an uptick in suspicion and fear towards Islamist ideology and an increase in reporting of it, fear is a well known catalyst for an increase in attacks. Fear and suspicion doesn’t dissipate by ignoring it or calling people stupid/racist etc, if anything it will only fuel it more. When Islamist threat is being discussed in parliament, but mentioning this context is derided as stupid/racist it does nothing to progress the current situation, if anything it exacerbates it and makes the Muslim population more vulnerable. Surely any discussion about Islamist threat is one that the Muslim community should be included in as it has such a negative effect upon them!

are you denying anti Muslim hate ? Also … this is coming from sky news .. are you saying they don’t have any credibility ?

do you think the same about cst or is it only tell mama the one that is doing fake propaganda 🤔?

from Wikipedia

Tell MAMA (Measuring Anti-Muslim Attacks) is a national project which records and measures anti-Muslim incidents in the United Kingdom. It is modelled on the Jewish Community Security Trust (CST) and like the CST it also provides support for victims, working closely with organisations such as Victim Support. The reception of the group by British Muslims is highly mixed, due to the relationship between Tell MAMA and the Jewish CST group (perceived negatively due to its support of Zionism).

Who are these people? It was reported on sky News so they must also be being played.

Who are these people?**

EasterIsland has answered that above your post

I'm going to need to hand over to other people to deal with any racists emerging for a bit. I'll try not to cause any more destruction of greenbelt land while I'm gone.

@scirocco Yes, but I'm holding you responsible for VAT on private schools and the fact it's not stopped raining here for days x

Jaffa cakes got smaller too...

Yes, but I'm holding you responsible for VAT on private schools and the fact it's not stopped raining here for days x

Jaffa cakes got smaller too...

Some desperate attempts here to close discussion down.

The intolerant demanding tolerance .
Quite ironic really .

Can you specify who the intolerants are please ?

Hello @OppsUpsSide We are talking about the impact of violence, harassment and assault on ordinary people. People like you and me. They go to school, work, pay their taxes, volunteer in the community, but because of their religion (often connected with ethnicity, people like you think there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for why others might target them. You do not comment as if you'd like to share any ideas, only to be hurtful and antagonistic. I think I've seen your style before, but can't think where.

Hello @stormy4319trevor my posts are clear to read above your accusations, I stand by my posts and do not feel I need to add anymore to reject your accusations that they are hurtful and antagonistic.

I do, however, want to suggest that you are not responding to any of the points raised beyond accusations of stupidity, racism and inane references to Jaffa cakes.

in USA it’s been reported too

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna122570

https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2023/nov/30/european-officials-deeply-concerned-for-muslims-amid-surge-in-attacks

An article from a few months before also highlighted the increase in perceived Islamist threat.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/16/terrorism-fears-fox-news-poll/

You could conservatively think that the increase in fear may be linked to the increase in attacks, even that Islamist rhetoric has a negative impact on Muslim communities and therefore should be considered relevant to the discussion and one that Muslim communities should be included in.

Or you could just call anyone that points this out racist and stupid and ‘protect’ Muslim communities from this discussion, despite the huge amount of suffering Islamist ideologies causes them.

@OppsUpsSide I think you are saying Muslims are increasingly attacked because people are afraid of terrorists. I don't think that's true, but even if it was, the point is that prejudice and harassment is not acceptable towards anyone, in any context. If you are afraid of a person because of their appearance/identity it still is not OK to be abusive. Perhaps you would need therapy to understand that not all people of that religion/identity are a threat to you.

People are afraid yes, of terrorists yes but also of Islamist ideology, especially now. I am assuming you know what I mean by Islamist as opposed to Islamic or Sufism etc.
unfortunately, whether people are right to be afraid or not rarely is enough to prevent it, and people are then vulnerable to disordered thinking when afraid.

That’s really sad, I’m sorry that happened to you, and your family.

Rubbish !

Just to be clear, my thinking on this is heavily influenced by the author Ed Husain (having said that I am very happy to consider any criticism of his work) he wrote a book called The Islamist. I will link an article he wrote incase anyone is unfamiliar with his work and interested

https://amp.theguardian.com/global/2018/may/26/ed-husain-house-of-islam-interview-how-peaceful-muslims-win-global-battle-of-ideas

@OppsUpsSide I think you are correct that fear after a terror attack can be a factor in increasing levels of racist incidents, and that perceptions of Islam do impact this, but I think that you started the discussion by taking about hate coming from Muslim communities was very offensive. It made it sound as though you were holding Muslim
communities accountable for this.

You might have found that people were better able to listen to your points if you first showed some empathy and support.