Anti-Muslim hate has increased since 7-10

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Out of the 901 off-line cases of anti-Muslim hate, there were 535 reports of abusive behaviour, 77 threats, 83 assaults, 79 acts of vandalism, 69 cases of discrimination, 39 acts of hate speech and 19 examples of anti-Muslim literature.

https://news.sky.com/story/335-rise-in-anti-muslim-hate-cases-in-uk-since-hamass-attack-on-7-october-13078030?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

what is happening in Gaza is not great

Indeed. Doesn't help you see them jeering in the streets and celebrating the deaths of the Jewish people.

So? What a weird desperate comment.

I am glad you started this thread OP because it adds balance to the talk topic about the conflict in the Middle East. We have had many threads on anti-semitism, which 100% have a place and the fear Jewish communities are feeling is warranted given the steep and unprecedented rise in antisemitic attacks across the U.K.

There has been a similar, albeit smaller but still steep rise in Islamaphobia and anti-Muslim attacks across the U.K.

The war in Gaza, West Bank, and East Jerusalem has caused political upheaval. I do think the speaker of the house was being racist by discarding SNP’s motion when it was their designated day to put forth motions to be voted on and instead putting forth a Labour motion (it’s been billed as an amended SNP motion, but that is hardly the case when the most salient bits have been entirely rewritten.) England has a long history of racism towards Scots and Muslims, so a SNP First Minister who is both Scottish and Muslim and putting forth a motion to protect innocent Muslims (and a few Christians) wasn’t something to be taken seriously.

We have seen these racist double standards applied to Muslim people and populations time after time. This also happens to Jewish people and to Israel at times which can make the issues all the more contentious and often what is valid criticism of Israel and IDF gets rejected as a double standard because that is the bias many Jewish communities are used to living under.

I think what is saddest is that BAE systems has reported record profits from selling British arms to Israel and Ukraine. In my view, the standard of our Government is to prolong any wars as long as possible, so that we can sell arms to make profits. It doesn’t matter if we are selling to the “good guys” or not. Money is the one true standard, money is all.

And this has led from the U.K. abstaining on UNSC ceasefire votes to the U.K. Parliament not even being able to figure out how to vote on a ceasefire motion.

This has been going on for the last 20 years non-stop really, to a religious group who largely cannot hide. Then those who can feel forced to hide their faith. My white and white passing Muslim friends are very careful about who they tell and it’s heartbreaking.

I agree with everything @SummerFeverVenice says, nicely summed up.

When our government sends arms to Israel, it is our war.
When a genocide is happening in front of our eyes ( regardless of where it is located), it is our war

Isn't this part of the issue though. Many people who are usually not Muslim see it as a war which isn't really any of our business aside from maybe some see our biggest allie in the region as needing support, many just see it as another (horrible as all wars are) war on the news far away from us. Whereas many of the marchers (not all) see it as their war.

I live near Rochdale/ Oldham/ Bury I know very few people who are non Muslims that aren't racist behind closed doors. Why that is could be many things including poverty, poor education, views passed down from families/ socially...

I think recent events in the area such as the grooming scandal which is still ongoing, the threat of remembrance day being interrupted by pro hamas/palastine protests, the cenotaph being vandalised, the Labour candidate coming out with antisemitic comments and it taking months to remove him from Labour have made it more acceptable for views to be made more openly.

Please note I have stated my opinion on what is contributing to more instances of islamophobia locally which is the topic not that these are my opinions.

And a girl aided by a Canadian spy. Great Safeguarding there, just who are the groomers here?.

Just like MI6 and the CIA trained and armed the mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight against the Soviets as it was in the West's interests.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/31/shamima-begum-smuggled-into-syria-for-islamic-state-by-canadian-spy

Even if this were relevant, this thread is about anti muslim attacks that are happening to Muslims in this country

So unfortunately regardless of whether you want to care about a war thousands of miles away, Muslims and Jews in this country are not given the privilege of that choice by some

For many people in the UK, it is a conflict that matters to us personally.

Many people in the UK, and many people on these boards, have friends, colleagues and family in Gaza and in Israel. We didn't stop caring about them just because they're further away from us.

Some people on this site actually live in the area.

The UK claims a role as an international leader. It therefore shouldn't turn a blind eye to attacks on other countries, and should try to take an active role in searching for peaceful solutions. (Instead, we just seem to send nore weapons because that's where the money is...)

Have you ever read or heard of "First they came for..."? It shows the importance of standing for what's right even when it doesn't seem to directly impact on you personally.

I would also add that, while Gaza and Israel are quite far away, the hate I and others like me experience on a regular basis isn't happening there. It's happening here. In work, in the street, in the park. It's shown on our nationally broadcast TV channels. It's on our local FB groups. It's on the parenting websites we use.

Hate and prejudice happening here in this country should be everybody's fight. And that should include fighting against all forms of hate and prejudice.

But for many people it doesn't matter personally, they don't have a connection to the area. The war there is just another war or conflict on the news. Why should this one be different? Especially when we have so many other issues to think about eg cost of living.

As a country we cannot get involved in every conflict or war and we don't. If we did get involved in this conflict directly the best interests of the country may not align with what you personally feel. There are also many people in the country who wouldn't and don't support it. Standing for what is right is subjective.

I agree there is much hate and prejudice in this country and it's getting worse and that isnt just for Muslims or Jews it's for many people with differences or are part of a minority. What the answer is to calming tensions in the UK is, is too big of a question for me but I don't believe that the UK actively supporting Palestine any more than it is will help.

@Baileyscream then you are of course, like everyone else, entitled to choose to care or not.

I'm going to continue to care long after they finish pulling the bodies of my dead friends out from under rubble.

I'm glad that other people care about terrorism, potential human rights abuses and war crimes, and trying to find peaceful solutions to international crises.

@Scirocco I do care though, it's just that my priorities are different to yours. There are other horrific things happening in the wider world and in people's own worlds/lives that do matter to them more than those which you prioritise (Israel/ Palestine). For these reasons and wider political ones is why my view is that I'd rather our government concentrate on the things that matter to me. This is a separate issue to the thread which is why islamophobia has increased. Unless you view me disagreeing with you as Islamophobic which I get the impression you wouldn't.

This is a really important book

I live near Rochdale/ Oldham/ Bury I know very few people who are non Muslims that aren't racist behind closed doors. Why that is could be many things including poverty, poor education, views passed down from families/ socially...

Those areas have high Muslim populations. I know there’s a lot of poverty, poor education and views passed down from families. In one of those places my 80 something Great Aunt who has mobility issues and was desperate to sit down was physically blocked from sitting down on a half empty bench by a Muslim man there with his family (who were using the other 1.5 benches.) He told her she couldn’t sit there. Her home help has been called a white whore while walking through the town centre and followed/sexually harassed by Muslim men in their late teens/early 20s. It’s a town I went to school in and 30 years ago my Muslim friend was called a whore by her neighbours if she didn’t cover her hair as she walked home. Ignorance and the passing down of family attitudes have a lot to answer for.

Not sure why you're posting here to tell us your priorities are different? This thread is about the conflict in the middle east if that's not important to you and your priorities are on other issues which you're right there are many, why aren't you contributing to threads that better align with your priorities? There are many different departments within governments thankfully they are able to deal with more than one issue at a time.

Interesting how the thread has very quickly become "why might people not like Muslims" rather than "it's a bad thing that innocent people are attacked verbally and physically and discriminated against because of their faith".

@Dulra the thread is actually about an increase in hate towards Muslims since the attacks on 7/10 this is what I engaged in. If you read what I wrote you'll see I was pulling the thread back to this.

Also this is a discussion, other views are allowed.

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Muslims and in particular Muslim women, remain under-represented at senior levels in most fields, as do many ethnic, faith and cultural minorities.

what are the stats on this? I know Muslims make up about 6.5% of the population but I don’t know what percentage of senior roles are held by Muslims.

If people choose to focus on only the issues on their own door step then that is their choice, although it’s not my preference. And as we live in such a globally connected world, I don’t think we can assume that we are insulated from events that happen elsewhere.

That our government continues to support without criticism the Israeli government who openly stereotype and demonise an entire population doesn’t help. As calling the marches ‘hate marches’ didn’t help either. I would like to see our MPs behave like better role models and encourage tolerance instead of division.

I am certainly not directly blaming MPs for the rise in racist behaviour, but I don’t think they are doing a good job at demonstrating and encouraging positive values.

I read the article you shared, thank you for sharing that.

I am having trouble concentrating on what he is saying though, because I so strongly disagree with this.

“Here in the UK, we have 20,000 Muslims being monitored. Twenty, ten, five years ago that wasn’t the case.” Several years ago, Husain advocated on behalf of the government’s Prevent programme, and declared that spying on British Muslims, whether they were suspected of committing crimes or not, was morally right as “the alternative [would be] to let the buggers do what they wish, until they appear on the violence radar, which is too late”.

Slightly off topic, but if we are to continue in line with this then I would like to advocate for every single male who has ever been suspected of violence to also be monitored. This group is far more dangerous.

Although as the majority of victims are women, and the majority of people in power are men, I won’t hold my breath.