This is the reality of what Israeli is doing.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/10/im-so-scared-please-come-hind-rajab-six-found-dead-in-gaza-12-days-after-cry-for-help

I don't think people replying to you have been defending Hamas.

There must be zero tolerance for racism in this country altogether. Why only for Jews? Islamophobia is rife. Does this not bother you? Or racism generally?

I find some of your comments quite odd. It's almost as if you can't see what is happening in Palestine or the history over 75 years, only what you perceive as intolerance towards Jewish people.

Who is supporting Hamas? I think you will find pretty much everyone who has posted on these threads has condemned them for their atrocities but are still not being heard. However, anyone criticising israels actions or those of the iof are accused of being antisemitic, it is becoming a stick to beat those who speak against this genocide.

Condemning Israeli government and IDF does not mean you support Hamas as I pointed out earlier I don't support either monster

@ConnieCounter it's not just an Israel thing. If peace is to be achieved then both sides must make massive compromises.
Asking for the unacceptable and unachievable in ceasefire discussions makes you as bad as the side unwilling to capitulate and signals your lack of seriousness about peace being achieved.

Israel have made it clear they don't want any ceasefire, but you can continue to blame Hamas for that if it makes you feel better I guess.

@ConnieCounter that is literally not what I said though is it? I said (again) that blame lays in both areas.

Let's not pretend that Israel would sign up to any ceasefire deal at the moment. It's pointless and insulting, frankly.

Also, looking forward to your response to my question on the Israeli racism and torture thread.

You will have a long wait, which, in my book, speaks volume.

What compromises do the Palestinians have left to make? They have been ousted from their homes, rounded up and penned into a space the size of Heathrow Airport, their whole infrastructure is close to being completely decimated, their families killed, they are by all accounts now being pushed in to the Sinai desert into land that indigenous Egyptians have been forcefully been emptied from.

Israels aim was the total annihilation of Palestine. They will not make compromises and will not stop. BN has said this time and time again.

What compromises do the Palestinians have left to make?

Never a truer word spoken. Unbelievable that any genuine peace talks at this point could not see this.

Oh please. Netanyahu's whole reason for being is to thwart any prospect of Palestinian self determination or sovereignty. He has explicitly said so and funded Hamas to achieve that objective.

He keeps rejecting a ceasefire without making a realistic counter offer. Surely you don't expect the Palestinians to salami slice their own offer, they learned they lesson at the Camp David negotiations.

@FOJN who made the offer?

Surely you don't expect the Palestinians to salami slice their own offer

The ICJ verdict was that Hamas should release the hostages and they haven't. Why would he enter into discussions about a trade. I am sure Hamas said they would abide by any ruling as well.

I am well aware Netanyahu will have to go to further the peace of all sides.

You've really misrepresented the ICJ ruing there. But you know that of course.

More details here.

https://www.politico.eu/article/benjamin-netanyahu-reject-hamas-delusional-cease-fire-demand/

Netanyahu accuses Hamas of being delusional but states that unless Hamas is destroyed “the evil axis of Iran and its affiliates will continue unhindered its campaign of killing and aggression,”. Hamas cannot be destroyed and even if it was does he think Iran will make peace with Israel?

I would say he's the one being delusional but he's just making pathetic excuses for not engaging in the peace process. He wants Gaza emptied and isn't the least bit interested in the hostages.

Israel are not doing anything to minimise civilian casualties but Hamas are expected to release the hostages anyway, they will not release the hostages without concessions from Israel because, rightly or wrongly, they are the only leverage they have. Pushing people to the point they have nothing to lose is a stupid thing to do.

I do not believe Israel would stop the genocide even if Hamas released the hostages.

I think the current government is dedicated to preventing a Palestinian state, and this is their best chance to get rid of Palestinians and their hopes once and for all. So I don't think handing over hostages will stop the assault on Gaza either. Besides, they want to eradicate Hamas - although I am wondering if there are any fighters left in Gaza now, since I've not seen any footage of battles, only air strikes and civilians.

Sorry, replying to @FOJN

Israel's representatives on the media stage have said on camera, countless times, that they view Palestinians as less. Their justification when asked if it is OK for children to die at the hands of the iof are met with 'we are eradicating future terrorists' - or words to that effect. 6 year old girls are terrorists, babies in incubators are terrorists, even the stray dogs that are purported to be attacking iof soldiers are terrorists. The israeli narrative hasn't changed in 75 years. It is never going to.

There will be no ceasefire until Israel has ethnically cleansed Gaza. This is it for the Palestinians. They will never be let into their own land again. Future displaced Palestinians will be brought up in refugee camps, and israel are wanting to get rid of Hamas? There will be a new generation of Hamas born from this genocide.

Errr, no,

Reiterating that all parties to the conflict, including Hamas, remain bound by international humanitarian law, the ICJ called for the release of the hostages. “Their fate remains unknown, an agony for families longing for their safe return,” the experts said.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/01/gaza-icj-ruling-offers-hope-protection-civilians-enduring-apocalyptic#:~:text=Reiterating%20that%20all%20parties%20to,return%2C%E2%80%9D%20the%20experts%20said.

And again, from Reuters,

The court also said it was "gravely concerned" about the fate of hostages held in Gaza and called on Hamas and other armed groups to immediately release them without conditions.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/key-takeaways-world-court-decision-israei-genocide-case-2024-01-26/

although I am wondering if there are any fighters left in Gaza now, since I've not seen any footage of battles, only air strikes and civilians.

What I mean is, are the IDF actually fighting anyone now, or is this the destroying infrastructure and rounding up non combatant stage?

@stormy4319trevor IDF claim that there are 4 battalions of Hamas fighters in Rafah and 2 in Khan Younis

Thank you @Efacsen I find it strange I hear so little of actual battles, though plenty about strikes on hospitals etc. So, in theory, there is still some fighting going on.

They claim.

I find it strange that they are able to clearly target/kidnap/kill specific journalists, lawyers and doctors etc etc but not Hamas.

In the meantime Israeli tanks are demolishing the walls of Nasser Hospital. When apparently they would never target hospitals.......

Yes. And it was one line in the judgment to which Hamas wasn't a party.

I agree with everything they said about the hostages I don't like that one line being weaponised by people who completely ignore the rest of the judgment and everything said about Israel, the ones accused of genocide.

It's tedious listening to people pretend the IDF aren't barbarians.

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1758176818455007564?t=hEPPmjyEniEaflDuJCX-5g&s=19

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