This is the reality of what Israeli is doing.

[Eyesopenwideawake]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/10/im-so-scared-please-come-hind-rajab-six-found-dead-in-gaza-12-days-after-cry-for-help

Yes, of course children throw cinder blocks and paving slabs. An IDF soldier (which I think the original point was about) is perfectly well protected against pebbles and cobblestones.

@MrsSkylerWhite except your liberty, family and possibly your life?

Think they would be enough of an incentive to not do it.... or the responsible adults in their lives not to gee them on.

Would you put your child in that position?

The examples of children being killed were stones thrown at moving cars

Not throwing stones at tanks and heavily armed soldiers

Can't you see the difference?

Yes, a child would really manage to pick up such a large item and then manage to successfully launch it at someone.

They tend to throw smaller stones ~ as I'm sure you are aware due to the fact it has been posted on these threads several times before. Also, it has been widely reported at previous times.

@whatsitcalledwhen "Because I'm trying to gauge whether your views are entrenched to the point there is no discussion to be had or whether you can see wrongdoing on both'sides' in which case there is some hope for constructive discussion on threads like this."

For what purpose?

Nothing we say or do will alter the situation.

And I'm not going to get into a discussion about a hypothetical situation that neither of us have experience of.

"Not to gee them on"

That is vile. Absolutely vile

stomachameleon · Today 10:28
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@MrsSkylerWhite except your liberty, family and possibly your life?
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Think they would be enough of an incentive to not do it.... or the responsible adults in their lives not to gee them on.
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Would you put your child in that position”

No. But my family haven’t been subjugated for decades. If it had, I expect we would have very different mindsets.

No, maybe not, but many see fit to justify its unjustifiable penalties.

@BackandForthRoundandRound you answered my question then.

somewhat understandable especially as they feel that they do not have a voice at all.

Thanks.

Nothing we say or do will alter the situation.

So why post at all? What's the point if you believe it's, well, pointless?

Surely by being here it means you want to discuss the situation despite not being able to directly alter it?

Take from it what you will... as usual.

Cherry pick as always

But I stand by what I say.

Soldiers should be able to not simply pull the trigger at young children throwing stones.

@BackandForthRoundandRound "Yes, a child would really manage to pick up such a large item and then manage to successfully launch it at someone."

A 16 year-old child might be able to pick one up, and then drop it from a building.

This has happened in UK from railway bridges.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/southport-train-driver-lucky-alive-8876862

If that's what you think why are you engaging with me ??

You seem to be taking an awful lot of interest in my posts and thoughts, to the point of being intrusive IMO.
I wonder why that is?

Blackkittypoo · Today 10:33
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@BackandForthRoundandRound "Yes, a child would really manage to pick up such a large item and then manage to successfully launch it at someone."
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A 16 year-old child might be able to pick one up, and then drop it from a building.
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This has happened in UK from railway bridges”

You do see that you’re scraping the barrel now, trying to justify your comments?
That is an entirely different situation.

Er no.

When the media tells you “children “, they don’t mean toddlers- they mean teens who are throwing rocks at soldiers or stabbing people on the streets. These are not innocents.
Age and gender don’t make you less dangerous

Your post would make sense if an IDF soldier and a train were the same thing. They're not.

Also, stabbing? What are you talking about?

And you still haven't provided evidence that it's legal to shoot a child for stone throwing.

@Blackkittypoo

You seem to be taking an awful lot of interest in my posts and thoughts, to the point of being intrusive IMO. I wonder why that is?

You're one of the people who have posted most on this thread so are likely to get some of the most responses.

I hope that some of the posts on here and people's shock at your words might give you a reason to reflect at least on how you make your point, even if the point you make doesn't change.

I'm genuinely baffled by your reaction and calling my posts intrusive despite the in depth nature of your own so will leave it there.

Completely agree with you - this poster appears to have more interest in de-railing the thread than taking part in any intelligent discussion

When the media tells you “children “, they don’t mean toddlers- they mean teens who are throwing rocks at soldiers or stabbing people on the streets. These are not innocents.

Throwing rocks at heavily armed soldiers and stabbing people on the street are entirely different situations. They aren't comparable.

Most people would agree with a long sentence a teen for stabbing someone in the street. Many of us are shocked that a teen throwing stones at a heavily armed soldier could get a sentence of up to 20 years in prison.

No real comparison.

There were plenty of teens who threw petrol bombs at soldiers in Northern Ireland, thankfully they for the most part, didn't have a shoot to kill policy and these teens survived.

@Blackkittypoo
I don't think posters are saying it is right to throw stones (or petrol bombs) at anyone they ae saying the punishment should not be execution. It is strongly felt that shooting them is not just, moral or right, whether it is legal or not in Israel is irrelevant to me, that doesn't make it right.

@whatsitcalledwhen

Throwing rocks at heavily armed soldiers and stabbing people on the street are entirely different situations. They aren't comparable.
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Most people would agree with a long sentence a teen for stabbing someone in the street. Many of us are shocked that a teen throwing stones at a heavily armed soldier could get a sentence of up to 20 years in prison.
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No real comparison.

Exactly. The original point was I think about heavily armed soldiers in full PPE shooting at children and young people throwing stones. Not teens in the UK managing to lift a paving slab onto the side of a bridge and drop it over the edge. What on earth has that to do with anything? I repeat, scraping the barrel in an attempt at justification.

Surely, shooting to kill at anyone, of any age throwing stones in that circumstance is outrageous.

Well said and a much more reasonable comparison that actually makes sense.

That made me laugh.