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BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:03

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 08:09

You post is more than a little uninformed,

https://study.com/academy/lesson/symptoms-of-bleeding-out.html#:~:text=Bleeding%20out%20can%20be%20caused%20by%20a%20bad%20cut%2C%20broken,and%20stab%20or%20gunshot%20wounds.

A haemorrhage can vary from anything from a paper cut finger to a gunshot wound.

You could 'bleed out' from the second but not from the first.

No, it isn't. I know from experience sadly.

Auvergne63 · 13/02/2024 09:08

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 08:51

I honestly don't think they will. It is that deeply rooted into their being.

The only thing that I could see making them change their mind is if something terrible happened to either someone they know or a member of their own family. (That is not meant in a wishing harm to anyone whatsoever so if it reads that way I apologise)

I listened to a very interesting interview with a Israeli psychologist. When she was asked, why some refused to acknowledge the suffering of the Palestinians in Gaza, she replied that they were enable to see beyond 07/10. She went on to say that, for them, this was so traumatic that they (unconsciously) blocked everything else. She also added that this, combined with the generational trauma from the Holocaust, produced an existential crisis for them.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:12

Auvergne63 · 13/02/2024 09:08

I listened to a very interesting interview with a Israeli psychologist. When she was asked, why some refused to acknowledge the suffering of the Palestinians in Gaza, she replied that they were enable to see beyond 07/10. She went on to say that, for them, this was so traumatic that they (unconsciously) blocked everything else. She also added that this, combined with the generational trauma from the Holocaust, produced an existential crisis for them.

I have read similar regarding generational trauma steming from the Holocaust. I will try to find the one which I read.

It is sad to see that the people who happened to survive The Holocaust ended up becoming oppressors themselves.

achangewoulddougood · 13/02/2024 09:22

Did anyone else see the Labour candidate who they've suddenly refused to back? He is still on the ballot and I was just wondering what would happen if everyone voted for him because he actually expressed disgust at IDL?
I want to vote Labour this time around but this inability for some of their party to see what is happening has me very worried.

Efacsen · 13/02/2024 09:24

achangewoulddougood · 13/02/2024 09:22

Did anyone else see the Labour candidate who they've suddenly refused to back? He is still on the ballot and I was just wondering what would happen if everyone voted for him because he actually expressed disgust at IDL?
I want to vote Labour this time around but this inability for some of their party to see what is happening has me very worried.

Have you posted on the wrong thread?

ConnieCounter · 13/02/2024 09:26

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 08:39

Don't get on at me and get sarcastic - I don't make the laws about self-defence.

You asked a question and I answered it, if you don't like the answer take it up with the IDF, or their Court Martial System or whatever they use.

You're on a parenting website arguing that it's reasonable to shoot children who are throwing stones.

Maybe time to take a walk and have a think about what you're saying.

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 09:26

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:03

No, it isn't. I know from experience sadly.

You know someone who 'bled out' from a paper cut? !

achangewoulddougood · 13/02/2024 09:28

I don't think so. I was trying to see if anyone had started a thread about it and thought that if everyone on this thread was worried about Gaza people might have also been interested...

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 09:29

ConnieCounter · 13/02/2024 09:26

You're on a parenting website arguing that it's reasonable to shoot children who are throwing stones.

Maybe time to take a walk and have a think about what you're saying.

It didn't say that I thought it was 'reasonable'. I said what the law says.

This 'parenting site' is an open site that allows posts about racism and torture, and you criticise me?

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:29

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 09:26

You know someone who 'bled out' from a paper cut? !

That is not what I said as you well know...

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:30

ConnieCounter · 13/02/2024 09:26

You're on a parenting website arguing that it's reasonable to shoot children who are throwing stones.

Maybe time to take a walk and have a think about what you're saying.

Agreed. A very long walk

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:30

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 09:29

It didn't say that I thought it was 'reasonable'. I said what the law says.

This 'parenting site' is an open site that allows posts about racism and torture, and you criticise me?

Well, considering you were attempting to justify the murder of children by stating that it could be grenades that they are throwing. (Despite it being quite clear that it is stones)

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:31

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 09:29

It didn't say that I thought it was 'reasonable'. I said what the law says.

This 'parenting site' is an open site that allows posts about racism and torture, and you criticise me?

So yes, saying something as horrendous as that does leave someone open to reasonable criticism.

These are children we are talking about and you are defending their murders

Efacsen · 13/02/2024 09:32

achangewoulddougood · 13/02/2024 09:28

I don't think so. I was trying to see if anyone had started a thread about it and thought that if everyone on this thread was worried about Gaza people might have also been interested...

There's already a thread in Active about it

Well off topic here and potentially de-railing

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 09:33

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:30

Agreed. A very long walk

I'll repeat my previous response - "This 'parenting site' is an open site that allows posts about racism and torture, and you criticise me?"

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:33

achangewoulddougood · 13/02/2024 09:22

Did anyone else see the Labour candidate who they've suddenly refused to back? He is still on the ballot and I was just wondering what would happen if everyone voted for him because he actually expressed disgust at IDL?
I want to vote Labour this time around but this inability for some of their party to see what is happening has me very worried.

Yes, I read about that. It has certainly made me not want to vote Labour due to their position.

Keir Starmer was supposedly a human rights lawyer which makes it even worse.

stomachameleon · 13/02/2024 09:34

@achangewoulddougood kindly there is already a thread about it in active. You will get lots of info there.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:35

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 09:33

I'll repeat my previous response - "This 'parenting site' is an open site that allows posts about racism and torture, and you criticise me?"

And I shall repeat my previous comment to you. Yes, due to you attempting to justify the deliberate targeting of children. The Occupation is well aware that it is stones. You have tried, yet again, to make excuses for the murder of children. So yes, reasonable criticism comes along with that position.

ConnieCounter · 13/02/2024 09:36

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 09:29

It didn't say that I thought it was 'reasonable'. I said what the law says.

This 'parenting site' is an open site that allows posts about racism and torture, and you criticise me?

I must have missed where you posted legislation saying it's legal to shoot a child for throwing a stone. You quoted an Israeli spokesperson, but that's not the same as outlining the law.

Thankfully shooting children for throwing stones is not actually legal. So maybe you might want to adjust your position on this.

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 09:37

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Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 09:41

ConnieCounter · 13/02/2024 09:36

I must have missed where you posted legislation saying it's legal to shoot a child for throwing a stone. You quoted an Israeli spokesperson, but that's not the same as outlining the law.

Thankfully shooting children for throwing stones is not actually legal. So maybe you might want to adjust your position on this.

No I don't think so -

Israeli military official defends shooting live rounds at Palestinian children for throwing rocks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz_3BFPINnc

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:42

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You went down the path of attempting to compare stones to hand grenades.

So why you are acting as though you are suddenly taken aback by criticism is puzzling.

You surely cannot expect to say such a thing ~ justifying the murder of children ~ and for nothing to be said.

Did you expect people to agree with you?

BackandForthRoundandRound · 13/02/2024 09:44

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Anyway, "self-defence" against children throwing stones.

This "self-defence" term seems to be getting thrown around an awful lot.... hmm

ConnieCounter · 13/02/2024 09:45

Blackkittypoo · 13/02/2024 09:41

No I don't think so -

Do you think that's evidence of it being legal? Oh dear.

That's a video of a spokesman for the child killers justifying the child killing. That's not proof of anything. Believe it or not you will not be able to find any evidence that killing a child for throwing a stone is legal or reasonable.

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