Documenting Israeli army racism and torture Thread 3

[Desertrose2023]

Hi all

This is the third installment of the thread to highlight, discuss and raise awareness of the crimes being committed by the Israeli army on a daily basis in Palestine.

for anyone interested in reviewing the first two threads on this topic they can be found here.

thread 1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

thread 2

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4956890-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture-thread-2?page=1

Let's not subject ourselves to the "death is a suitable and legal response to children throwing stones" debate again. It was disgusting enough the first time.

So you don't have a comment about the 'modern parenting' technique that father is using?

Now I'm all for teaching kids to have skills, but I think that particular skill might be a bit limited in it's future application.

Not much use on a CV either. 🙂

@Ladyjanegreysketle I actually can't be bothered with you today. Have a wonderful Sunday.

Hooray ! 👏👏

There is? That’s great! Do you know what the details are and who brought it?

Didn't someone who speaks Arabic say that the father is saying "go shoot him like you shot other kids" or something along those lines, the last time you posted this video?

I'm pretty sure IDF soldiers murdering little kids is the bigger crime here.

Looks like the SNP.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/17/labour-seeking-snp-deal-to-avoid-new-gaza-ceasefire-rebellion

Well I don't believe that's what I said but anyway....

Are you saying that the man minding his own business in the first video was shot in the leg because this toddler threw a stone?

Seems unfair and completely disproportionate.

Great to see your Google is fixed, it must have been very frustrating and time consuming relying on randoms on MN to do your searches for you.

I've no idea because I never posted the video before.

If it was so "disgusting" the first time why are you even mentioning it again ??

@Ladyjanegreysketle I have come back for a few more questions for you. As you have me thinking about it now. What do you suggest the IDF should do with palestine and the Palestinians? What do you think the solution is? Because I think the IDF need go retreat and leave the Palestinians alone to rebuild as best they can their lives.

What do you think should be done?

SNP

Must've been someone else then. Sorry I thought it was you.

What’s the point you want to make here @Ladyjanegreysketle?
Palestinians are taught to throw stones?
Do you believe that early social conditioning is confined to Palestinians? I’m sure you will have seen the videos of boys in the Yeshivas telling their smiling, clapping and approving teachers that ‘We will banish the Arabs’ ‘kill the Arabs’ and ‘make the Arabs our slaves’.
There are Hebrew children’s books available on Amazon on teaching children to be brave while they use rockets to fight the enemy.

All the other social conditioning by Israel has come to pass by being made into policy.

Because I don't want the same discussion to develop again. As I clearly stated in my post.

It's disturbing for normal people when someone says that it's OK (normal, legal, whatever euphemism is used) to shoot children dead for throwing stones.

You're a good person. Thank you for all you're doing to help the Palestinians. 😀

The video shows a man encouraging his son to throw stones/rocks at soldiers. They ignore the boy after saying hello to him. He wasn't shot. What's the dad hoping to achieve here. Does he want his son martyred? He just rants on in the background encouraging the very young child to throw at the soldiers, to what point.

The fact that throwing a stone can get a Palestinian shot and killed aside, how could anyone here know the answer to your questions other than the father?
What’s the point of you asking this question here?

This poor boy rummages through black bags on the street for food. He eats nothing as he can't find any food. 💔💔

www.instagram.com/reel/C3f5tHVtY8l/?igsh=MXM0dmFyN2g5aXU3aw==

I would dispute this is from Gaza.

The commentary says "God is sufficient for us he is the best disposer of our affairs over the oppressive Arab rulers" ????

@Ladyjanegreysketle

Why would you dispute it's from Gaza?

Also, are you watching a different video to the one I posted? I say this as I don't recall hearing the person talking to the young boys say the phrase in Arabic you have quoted him saying

Either way, the quote "God is sufficient for us, he is the best disposer of our affairs" is a prayer Muslims make in times of hardship. They rely on God only to provide.

Tell me you really have no idea about Palestinians without telling me!

If you actually spoke more with and less about them, you would know that Arab states easily rank among the "Top 3" of whom ordinary people tend to blame for their situation!

... and, no, no free pass, sorry: the occupation always tops the list!

Maybe this will soon end if Hamas are nearing defeat

https://www.timesofisrael.com/gallant-hamas-seeks-to-replace-sinwar-khan-younis-brigade-is-defeated/

I don't speak Arabic so can't weigh in on its authenticity.

But it doesn't really matter whether this video is in Gaza or not. What it portrays is real. Children ARE dying of starvation, that's beyond question.

Sadly children are also dying from starvation in Yeman and Sudan. Somalia has one of the highest death rates too along with Angolia. Afghanistan has children with high malnutrition rates along with Guatemalia. The list of countries with starving children is very long.

There are far far too many countries where children are starving. This shows:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/starvation-deaths-by-country

Most are ignored.