Israelis held hostage in Gaza - part 3

[StarbucksSmarterSister]

Part 3.

I hope they come home soon and there's no need for a part 4.

No Bibas family? Where TF are they? If they really are dead Hamas could show proof but psychological torture seems to be a thing.

BTW Noa wasn't IDF, she's a student but I suppose Hamas might call her a soldier.

Are they going to provide proof of life for any others? I presume not.

Soldiers - all from Nahal Oz base
Naama Levy
Liri Albag
Agam Berger
( All 3 had just completed basic training and only been at the base for two days.)
Danielle Gilboa
Karina Ariev

All 19 except Liri who is 18.

@StarbucksSmarterSister if they are really no longer with us they should allow the Bibas family to return home to Israel. It is prolonging the torture for the family.

I would also make proof of life a condition.

"The spokesperson of the armed wing of Hamas said Friday that seven captives have been killed in Israeli air strikes in recent weeks.
In a brief communique, Abu Obaida said this takes the death toll among captives to over 70 due to Israeli bombing.
"We have been keen all along to preserve the lives of the prisoners, but it has become clear that the enemy leadership is deliberately killing its prisoners to get rid of this issue," Abu Obaida said." (Source: Middle East Eye)

well that seems like a trustworthy message.

Do they have the decency to give the names of people they say have died because they were taken by hamas.

Will update if/when I find out more

@quantumbutterfly considering Hamas have never given any indications of life for any hostages or allowed anyone to see them I am happy to take anything they say with a pinch of salt.

@quantumbutterfly

www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-789799

Yes, they did give their names (mentioned in above article).

Interesting that the ministry of health/ Hamas armed wing (and some posters) think the IDF only kills Palestinian women and children and male hostages.

Not mentioning why they are there in the first place.

Enemy prisoners? 🤔

So we're now treating psychological warfare and terrorist propaganda as facts, are we? Terrorists with literally no respect for life are seen as a reliable source? 🤦🏻‍♀️

Dead 😞or alive the hostages should be home.

So who would you suggest is a reliable source on the state of the hostages?

There isn't a reliable source. Hope that answers your question 👍🏻

Since the start every Palestinian that has been killed is innocent

Every person pictured who the IDF have captured has been innocent and definitely not a terrorist

No Palestinians took part in the massacre in October

No Palestinians mocked and desecrated dead Israelis

Hamas are a reliable source of Information

They need to free the hostages

Update...

apple.news/AfqdfbDaaTF-WLIEd3oWL4Q

March for return of hostages over four days.

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-qatar-egypt-failed-to-deliver-on-promise-to-secure-list-from-hamas-of-hostages-still-alive/

Update on situation....

@stomachamaleon This is quite an interesting bit of analysis from Shaeil Ben-Ephraim. I hope he's right about the conclusion he draws as the worst case scenario is unpleasant all round.

https://twitter.com/academic_la/status/1764362887894888839

@SomeCatFromJapan agreed.

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-israel-believes-sinwar-wants-escalation-of-violence-over-ramadan-instead-of-truce/

I'm starting to wonder if the Hamas strategy is to attempt to win some sort of global propaganda war on the basis of the highest possible body count they can manage, rather than defeating Israel militarily.

I've been saying that since the very beginning - that it doesn't matter what Israel says and does because Hamas have already won the propaganda war. People willingly believe the murderous terrorists and spread their propaganda for them. It's incredibly sickening how many people have become essential parts of the Hamas propaganda machine. Literally couldn't be done without them.

People like to pretend that Hamas aren't really a threat. If they're not a threat, how did a Hamas family manage to leave Gaza this week? It's because they still have power. They're still in charge. They know exactly what they're doing, and they're being helped by all these fuckwits on here who seem to think they're some kind of freedom fighters.