Brits fighting in Israel

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Will their British citizenship be revoked? Here is Tamara being glorified in the DM while the likes of Shamima Begum was crucified.

What's the difference between what either of them did because I can't see any and neither should be allowed back.

For the rest saying people can go fight there are so many double standards. The hypocrisy stinks.

You can go help IDF, Ukraine but what if they went to Russia, Afghanistan? Anyone remember Guantanamo Bay? Or are our memories so forgetful. The brits that went weren't charged with a crime but were kept there and tortured.

Sorry, I misread your post.

You seem to be hellbent on protecting terrorists, who see heads in baskets and say they aren't fazed.

Nobody likes Hamas. But I don't have to tattoo it on my forehead or have it as a message on every post I write,

No, you just have to start a thread comparing apples with oranges.

@Depdawg - I'm not protecting anyone don't be ridiculous. I was trying to have a debate and the morals of what this Tamara was saying.

If you read properly I said I don't think anyone should be allowed back when fighting for another country.

Your hatred towards anyone who has a different opinion is mind blowing.

It is no different to those countries going around the world saying you can't weaponise whilst building their own economy around weapons and invasions . Reminds me of Elon Musks tweet, a broken clock for this guy though.

Get a grip.

No worries, what I meant is not all Muslims support Hamas, some think Hamas are terrorist and vile. At least the ones I talked to living in UK.
Op seems to think Hamas are freedom fighters and anyone talking against them are antimuslim..

Op I hope you are just a very ignorant and young person and you'll change but you are a very dangerous person sharing your ideas online and comparing ladies fighting in a democratic army to ladies ( groomed) but who joined ISIS a terrorist group...

You said Bibi's son could go and fight. I responded with so could Hamas leaders.
If you are going to start a thread, be prepared to have your arguments counteracted.

@Depdawg - you think the Americans are going to let Hamas leaders out of their sight?

I think this thread is a desperate attempt to excuse terrorists. It's quite concerning.

OK, so let's say why don't terrorists stop radicalising their children to do their dirty work for them.

Russia invaded a sovreign country unprovoked eith clear intention of gaining territory. Israel is defending itself against Hamas, a proscribed terrorist organisation, which had stated it will repeat the atrocity again and again till it destroys Israel & is backed by sntisemitic state Iran which encourages the destruction of Israel and Jews. You are all over the place.

I hear and have read a lot of views like yours that say what Israel is doing now is commiting genocide so I'm interested to know what you think they should or shouldn't be doing?

If you read properly I said I don't think anyone should be allowed back when fighting for another country

Does that mean you'd disband the Brigade of Gurkhas and prevent Commonwealth personnel joining the British forces? And limit loan service between Allies?

What would you do about those employed by PMCs?

Of those who are veterans of the military in other countries but who now seek to relocate?

The law at present is that citizenship should not be stripped for those who have (or could claim) another nationality. It's only removed (if it would leave the person stateless) in extreme cases eg IIRC Lord Haw Haw. So for actively fighting (literally and certain other activities) for the other side in a war against us already has some precedence

Membership of a banned organisation leads to criminal penalty, which can include deportation and revoking citizenship from dual nationals.

I'm not sure we should go much further than those two categories

I hear and have read a lot of views like yours that say what Israel is doing now is commiting genocide so I'm interested to know what you think they should or shouldn't be doing.

Do you really think Hamas leaders are in Qatar because of US and not because are cowards who got rich with the aid which was supposed for their people to eat etc and Hamas leaders are using that money to live a luxury life????

If you have Israeli joint nationality you have to do national service. It's the same in many countries still, we are actually more unusual in not having any form of national service. Dual nationality doesn't get you out of it. Whether I agree with Israel or the actions of the idf are separate (I don't) but you can't revoke her citizenship for doing something legally required

@mpsw I think you might be too rational for this thread!

Seems noone has heard of the Spanish Civil War. Imagine if we had chucked out George Orwell!?

And where would these people go whose citizenship we revoke I wonder, if they were not dual nationals. Where does a stateless person live?

Lioness 🤮

This type of thinking I find really hard to understand, although I absolutely stand against Isreals treatment of Palestinians I accept that there is military service there and as such the ordinary soldier has no choice, but to sit in another country and see children bombed, starved, no water, no fuel etc and think "must join in and kill a few more" is beyond my comprehension and certainly nothing to be proud of, who I do think are brave are the Gazans struggling every day to stay alive against all the odds and the Jewish people around the world who are speaking out against this very one sided war

What does this even mean? They can look at them all they like. What would be great would be to get them prosecuted for war crimes.

First of all, as already said, she's an Israeli citizen living in the country. She's doing her mandatory service , fighting for her country's right to survive against a terrorist organisation whose sole purpose is to kill every Jew and destroy Israel.
How dare you compare her to Shamima Begum. Your ignorance, bigotry and anti- semitism shines through.

I don't think they should have got to this situation.

For the last 10 years Bibi has done everything he can to hold onto power. The illegal settlements need to stop.

It needs to go back to the two state solution but it won't.

Palestine is the problem in the corner best forgotten sadly while everyone else carries on with their lives.

I don't know the answer but dead women and children aren't it.