Documenting the horror that is Hamas

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Proof of their cowardly actions.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12832221/Plotting-terror-tunnels-five-killed-air-strike-IDF-reveals-five-Hamas-commanders-killed-posing-photo.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12831687/Female-hostages-touched-physically-abused-held-Hamas-relatives-freed-captives-tell-Netanyahu-Prisoners-beaten-body-hair-shaved-humiliate-families-say.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12833009/Israel-finds-one-largest-weapons-caches-discovered-Gaza-near-school-hospital.html

Weather they make it public or not is not going to make any difference to the hostages. Whether they bomb or run water through the tunnel isn’t going to take into account the hostages I’m afraid. Hamas are savages and will do what they need to do to keep their cowardly arses safe.

*whether

And what happens to the hostages that are probably in the tunnels? Doesn't sound like Israel care for them very much if they're willing to flush Hamas out.

Israel does care but since the start of this it has had the difficult job of protecting the entire nation of Israel by dealing with Hamas and it cannot be held to ransom by terrorists so it is not as simpler as they kidnap an Israeli and then in exchange loads of Hamas criminals are released from prison.

On the tunnels they may have announced the possibility of using sea water to help ensure Hamas leaves the tunnels. The hostages are valuable so Hamas probably does not want them dead as they are bargaining chips in Hamas' eyes. Sea water is not the ideal weapons to use although I think Egypt used it in Hamas tunnels being used against it for smuggling. It can get into fresh water supplies.
Destroying tunnels longer term is a better solution but there are an awful lot of them and it is not easy to do.

@Thankfultoyou do you honestly believe that? The hostage situation is causing immense pain in Israel.

What if Hamas has the hostages in the tunnels and leave the hostages inside them to drown if they think Israel is about to flood them?

It doesn’t bear thinking about.

Exactly. Which is why the information shouldn't be out there. If they were going to do, they shouldnt announce it first.

I think it was announced to make Hamas leave the tunnels (and the one thing Hamas would remove from the tunnels would be its valuable asset - the hostages). Hamas chooses to put Israel in awful situations because Hamas is a terrorist body. If israel floods the tunnels as Egypt did in the past then the acquifers could be polluted. Israel does not want to pollute local water supplies because unlike Hamas it is a reasonable democratic nation built on the rule of law, but it may be left with no choice. War is full of awful hard choices.

I agree but suspect that getting ready to flood the tunnels would involve activity that would be visible from Hamas drones, and from people on the ground, who are scouting IDF activity in Gaza.

I've seen comments on X saying that it was the IDF soldier that was stood there who shot them. There is literally no proof that some people will accept short of being there themselves watching it. Even then if Hamas terrorists had masks on they'd claim it was the IDF in disguise

Here is a good Haaretz article about flooding the tunnels (pros and cons). I was able to read it without paying.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-05/ty-article/israel-debating-using-seawater-to-flood-gaza-tunnels-report-says/0000018c-3909-dc03-a9ec-3d7b120a0000

I noticed in a DM article about the hostages posted a bit earlier, one hostage is horrified by the idea as her
husband is being held in tunnels.

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/hamas-brings-in-1-billion-a-year-the-same-as-somalias-national-budget-say-economists-pjrkg0v5

@Jupitersstorm what downtrodden Hamas?

Love this thread it is like going fishing

Brilliant

Wow.

That money should be shared around the people of Gaza.

For a bit of dark humour, how is this for propaganda?

https://twitter.com/RabbiZvi/status/1734340988901146859

The names they have used translate as Man Humper and F**t

Thanks for all the updates on these threads. I am not commenting no this board anymore after the way it was moderated, but just wanted you all to know I am still reading and still in despair at all of this awful hatred.

This could potentially help the situation:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12857481/Israe-Hamas-pumping-seawater-tunnels-Gaza-destroy-terror-network.html

What do you mean by the "way it was moderated?"

By MNHQ. I ddi dont agree with deleting posts calling out antisemitism, one included, and not removing a lot of things that fuel hatred in general, bothers me. I found this whole thing and what's happening to jewish people quite frightening.

Printed the same day as DM article.

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