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Conflict in the Middle East

IDF shot a 9 year old boy

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ThickPinkSocks · 29/11/2023 20:18

Why is this not in the mainstream news? I thought there was a ceasefire!

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Alexandra2001 · 02/12/2023 12:11

@ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow

How would that assure Hamas would surrender and release hostages?

But on the hostages, Israeli is bombing the tunnels Hamas use, they want them destroyed but the hostages are also in them, how many do you think are still alive? especially as there are also huge shortages of food.

The 2 main aims of Israel are at odds with each other but as we can see, the destruction of Hamas is more important.

Palestinians protesting against Hamas? well, when this is over, the protestors would not be safe from reprisals, possibly during the bombings.

You are being rather unrealistic.

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 02/12/2023 12:14

It is very difficult for sure. I am devastated about all the loss of life but don't see that Israel has any other choice as Hamas is committed to its destruction?

ChickHenLittle · 02/12/2023 12:15

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 02/12/2023 11:59

Have you protested against Hamas - assuming you are not in Gaza?

No, as I've said before, health reasons prevent me attending protests these days. I haven't been to any, against anything at all, in many years.
Which ones have you attended?

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 12:17

@ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow do you condemn Israel's behaviour towards Palestine prior to October 7th? Do you condemn the racism, land stealing, torture, rape, unlawful imprisonment, oppression of human rights, and killing of so many innocent Palestinians by IDF in the preceding decades? Or are you only prepared to recognise the actions of one side.

Chaitales · 02/12/2023 12:17

ChickHenLittle · 02/12/2023 12:15

No, as I've said before, health reasons prevent me attending protests these days. I haven't been to any, against anything at all, in many years.
Which ones have you attended?

Hope you feel better soon!

Chaitales · 02/12/2023 12:18

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 12:17

@ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow do you condemn Israel's behaviour towards Palestine prior to October 7th? Do you condemn the racism, land stealing, torture, rape, unlawful imprisonment, oppression of human rights, and killing of so many innocent Palestinians by IDF in the preceding decades? Or are you only prepared to recognise the actions of one side.

There is SO MUCH documented terror by Israel just in 2022 and 2023 alone.

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 02/12/2023 12:20

ChickHenLittle · 02/12/2023 12:15

No, as I've said before, health reasons prevent me attending protests these days. I haven't been to any, against anything at all, in many years.
Which ones have you attended?

Sorry to hear. No I haven't attended any Hamas protests but would if there were any

ChickHenLittle · 02/12/2023 12:42

@Chaitales and @ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow Thank you, standing for long periods of time wouldn't be doable, especially now winter and this bitter cold has suddenly appeared! An actual march without standing around, maybe, but due to work I'd have my children and would have to be stopping constant scape attempts (all under school age)!

@ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow It may not be near you, and it's short notice, but there is this: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4953492-together-for-humanity
It's a good idea, I hope it is very well attended.

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This is so wonderful. Totally non-partisan peace making. A flag-free, placard-free peace vigil this Sunday afternoon, and other stuff - https://toget...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4953492-together-for-humanity?reply=131123622

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miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:25

No, they want peace on their land eh? 🙄

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miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:27

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beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 19:28

@miniegg3 even if these screenshots represent the truth (hard to say from a screenshot) Israel are no better. They repeatedly call for end of Palestine via genocidal tweets, maps showing no Palestine, one minister even suggesting it could be nuked the other week. Do you think this is acceptable?

ChickHenLittle · 02/12/2023 19:28

It's no big surprise that Hamas are not seeking peace.

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:32

So obviously it's a fake screenshot then 🙈 I can't upload videos on here..
So are you saying its acceptable that hamas intend to kill all Jews?
And you're saying that the IDF should do nothing in return?
There will never be peace under hamas rule because they don't want a ceasefire and the don't want a 2 state solution!

What do people actually suggest could work?

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 19:34

@miniegg3 if you answer my question, I will answer yours.

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:37

Oh for gods sake..

Do I think they should nuke gaza? No obviously not!

Do I think there's a solution other than what they're doing now, no.

ChickHenLittle · 02/12/2023 19:39

Do I think there's a solution other than what they're doing now, no.

🤦🏽‍♀️ Still derailing a thread about a child who was shot in cold blood by supporting further deaths. Despicable.

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 19:40

The question was, do you think israel’s genocidal rhetoric, i.e. stating they want to wipe out all palestinians and take all their land (not just nuke them) is ok?

how is their expression of genocidal intent ok yet Hamas saying the same thing not ok?

i’m not saying either is ok but you ignore Israeli govt wants to wipe out all of Palestine. It changes how we see the situation.

OuiOuiKitty · 02/12/2023 19:41

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:37

Oh for gods sake..

Do I think they should nuke gaza? No obviously not!

Do I think there's a solution other than what they're doing now, no.

Not many people are that open about supporting the mass killing of civilians, the killing of 1 in every 200 children in Gaza, the killing of aid workers and medics on duty, the statvation of millions. Most talk in circles around it and pretend that they care that children are being hurt. I admire your honesty if nothing else.

parksandrecs · 02/12/2023 19:43

Well, Hamas is a terrorist organisation

Israel is a state that should have higher standard of behaviour

Just as the UK government had no excuse for using the tactics of the IRA

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:45

beigecartoon · 02/12/2023 19:40

The question was, do you think israel’s genocidal rhetoric, i.e. stating they want to wipe out all palestinians and take all their land (not just nuke them) is ok?

how is their expression of genocidal intent ok yet Hamas saying the same thing not ok?

i’m not saying either is ok but you ignore Israeli govt wants to wipe out all of Palestine. It changes how we see the situation.

Well I haven't seen those tweets so I can't comment on them. If it's exactly as you say, then no of course not. Getting rid of hamas and gaza being able to rebuild, with hopefully a rational government, using funds to build a nice place for them to live rather than spending money on weapons and war, would be what I want.
Unfortunately hamas started all this destruction in october

parksandrecs · 02/12/2023 19:46

The reality is that the IDF have been killing children for years. Which is disgusting.

On October 2023 Hamas did the same. Which is equally disgusting.

That doesn't make it OK for what the IDF have been doing, and are now doing to a greater extent.

miniegg3 · 02/12/2023 19:46

OuiOuiKitty · 02/12/2023 19:41

Not many people are that open about supporting the mass killing of civilians, the killing of 1 in every 200 children in Gaza, the killing of aid workers and medics on duty, the statvation of millions. Most talk in circles around it and pretend that they care that children are being hurt. I admire your honesty if nothing else.

What do you suggest?

It's was against terrorists, war in never pleasant. I think people forget its happening all over, not just in gaza.

parksandrecs · 02/12/2023 19:47

Or that the IDF have been doing it for years without condemnation?

parksandrecs · 02/12/2023 19:49

Israel has broken international law for years.

Hamas has no right to break international law.

Neither does Israel

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