Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]

[Efacsen]

Continuation from thread 3

The on-going dire situation at the hospital

Latest on the situation at Nasser

• Israeli forces are still detaining a large number of medical personnel, patients and displaced people in the maternity building of the hospital, subjecting them to interrogation in harsh and inhumane conditions.
• Five medical staff and 120 patients are being kept by Israeli soldiers in the old Nasser Hospital building – without any food, water or electricity.
• Generators have stopped working at the hospital, threatening the lives of patients needing oxygen.
• Israeli forces are preventing the evacuation of critical cases from the facility to other hospitals for treatment.

Also IDF prevented a WHO aid convoy reaching the hospital

I believe they even brought cadaver dogs to try and locate any deceased hostages.

Cadaver dogs in a hospital in Gaza? The IDF are even more daft than I thought. How do people believe this nonsense?

@FOJN because that's what morons tell them and they want their hostages back.

Israeli forces block WHO medicine, fuel for Nasser Hospital

For almost 10 hours now, there’s been two trucks filled with medical supplies outside of Nasser Hospital. They’re also carrying much-needed fuel for generators to provide power to the besieged health facility

I don't understand this - IDF are in total control of the hospital so surely no concerns about these vital supplies falling into the hands of Hamas. Five patients have already died from lack of oxygen/no electrical power and a further 9 are at risk of dying incl 3 children

The trucks are just 50 metres from the hospital gates maybe can be seen from the hospital windows- they are surrounded by tanks and piles of sand moved by military bulldozers to stop them moving

Is it intended as some kind of crude pressure on the detained medics who are being 'questioned' by IDF atm?

@Efacsen it was the same thing in Al- Shifa hospital too. Despite being in the hospital they didn't allow any fuel in.

@Parkingt111 that's true - and there are more babies in incubators at Nasser too

Just seems more public and blatant this time or maybe my memories of Al Shifa are fading

Hope ICJ are taking note

www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-02-16/rafah-gaza-hospitals-surgery-israel-bombing-ground-offensive-children

"Opinion: I’m an American doctor who went to Gaza. What I saw wasn’t war — it was annihilation"

Horrifying account from an American reconstructive surgeon who just spent 10 days in Gaza.

"I stopped keeping track of how many new orphans I had operated on. After surgery they would be filed somewhere in the hospital, I’m unsure of who will take care of them or how they will survive. On one occasion, a handful of children, all about ages 5 to 8, were carried to the emergency room by their parents. All had single sniper shots to the head. These families were returning to their homes in Khan Yunis, about 2.5 miles away from the hospital, after Israeli tanks had withdrawn. But the snipers apparently stayed behind. None of these children survived."

What goes through a snipers mind as he looks at a child through his rifle lens, lining it up to shoot them in the head? How does he justify it to himself? How do the people who support the IDF justify it to themselves? What absolute moral depravity.

I was listening to Irish radio the other evening and they asked an Israeli spokesperson about an 80 year old man who had been shot to death by Israeli snipers while going to get food. They asked why this had happened, the spokesperson quick as a whip said 'maybe Hamas were standing behind him'. There is always an excuse and it is always accepted by Israels backers. They can act with total impunity and know it.

@HazelSheep I've watched videos of IDF soldiers who were absolutely consumed by the guilt of what they have done to Palestinians. I can only hope that the ones responsible for committing these atrocities suffer the same fate.

@Parkingt111 is this the same medic you were talking about yesterday?

''Doctor Haytham Ahmed has been taken from Nasser hospital by the Israeli forces''.

Twitter 15/2

IDF have supplied the hospital with water and baby milk and have thoughtfully filmed themselves and put it on twitter so we can all see

Also deja-vu from Al Shifa

I wonder if they grabbed it back once they stopped filming.

IDK at Al Shifa they made a similar show but the items seen delivered allegedly didn't reach the patients in need - so who knows

@Efacsen I believe that's a different doctor. This was Dr Ahmed Maghrabi but I don't think he has been taken thankfully.

This is a short clip of him talking to the BBC in December
It was just as bad then aswell.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-67644334

@Efacsen I was just thinking that the name Dr Haytham Ahmed sounds familiar from somewhere and then I remembered he gave an account of the account that was reported by the BBC just three days ago
Shocking that he has been detained

A doctor at Nasser hospital's emergency department, Haitham Ahmed, told BBC Arabic on Tuesday night that Israeli tanks had destroyed the northern wall during heavy bombardment and violent clashes in the surrounding area.
"Part of the stock of medical supplies... was burned as a result of the morning clashes," he said. "Since [Monday], with the hospital's infrastructure being affected, sewage has unfortunately begun to flow into the departments located on the ground floors of the hospital, and there is a fear that it will reach the emergency and radiology departments."

Thanks @Parkingt111 unfortunately the flooding has reached the emergency dept which is now a couple of inches deep in water [looks more like wastewater than sewage]

This too from PRCS about 2 of their doctors detained - and then released. Horrible pictures of their injuries attached to the tweet

Red Crescent shares images of ‘brutality’ towards doctors

The PRCS has posted photos of two Palestinian doctors arrested a week ago from al-Amal Hospital by Israeli soldiers, who were later allegedly tortured, beaten and humiliated before their release on Friday.

“The Israeli occupation arrested 12 PRCS teams, including seven who were arrested from inside Al-Amal Hospital about a week ago”, the Red Crescent said.

PRCS said it is concerned for the safety of its detained team members, whose fate remains unknown, and “calls on the international community to urgently intervene to pressure the Israeli occupation authorities to immediately release our detained teams and provide protection for PRCS teams working in the Gaza Strip”.

@Efacsen that sounds terrible but its not the first time I have heard of doctors and health care workers testifying to torture after being released. Sky news had a testimony from a doctor who was detained for over 40 days who said the same about his terrible treatment.

I have just seen Dr Ahmed has evacuated to Rafah. I'm wondering how many doctors and patients are left in Al Nasser still

There's not even any outrage anymore on how suspected detainees are treated. I have seen many many testimonies not only on social media but MSM too on how those who are detained are treated, who are later released. It just seems to be the accepted norm

I have just seen reported there's approx 120 patient and 5 medical teams still at Al Nasser hospital
Without any adequate provisions

Thanks - I was looking for an update but couldn't find one

And yes very much so that the brutalisation of medical staff is in danger of becoming the norm

WHO update on Nasser hospital

WHO chief says Nasser Hospital is defunct with 200 patients inside

“Both yesterday and the day before, the WHO team was not permitted to enter the hospital to assess the conditions of the patients and critical medical needs, despite reaching the hospital compound to deliver fuel alongside partners,” Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in a statement on X.

He said there were still about 200 patients in the hospital and at least 20 of them need to be urgently referred to other hospitals to receive health care.

He added: “Medical referral is every patient’s right. The cost of delays will be paid by patients’ lives. Access to the patients and hospital should be facilitated.”

Al Jazeera adds further that there are only 4 doctors left caring for all the patients - I saw yesterday that one of the 5 doctors has been injured by missile attack on the medical sleeping area. Hopefully there are nurses or other staff too as that's an impossible task

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The war crimes are coming thick and fast.