Mainly about Al Shifa [bombed front of hospital 3]

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Continuation from thread 3

The on-going dire situation at the hospital

How will they treat the wounded without water and electricity??

This was really upsetting go hear. There are so many abandoned buildings and they choose the hospital to use as army barracks. Its another example of cruelty that really does add salt to the wounds.
Plus nobody ever knows what happens to the medical staff who get detained.
Like the director of Al Shifa hospital. Does anyone know if he is even alive?

No functioning hospitals is going to really accelerate the already dire situation.

@stormy4319trevor Now there are no functioning hospitals in northern gaza the wounded appear to be being taken to health centres which i understand to be primary care clinics - it's maybe a bit more than first aid [depending on staffing/medical supplies] but totally inadequate

''Forty-six killed and 110 injured people have been brought to Jabalia Medical Center since morning in northern Gaza, the director-general of the Ministry of Health in Gaza said in a post on X.

Dozens were still trapped under the rubble, Munir al-Bursh added''.

@Parkingt111 the whereabouts and welfare of the medical director and 4 other members of staff from Al Shifa are unknown - can't remember if WHO or UN who tweeted their concerns yesterday. So many medical staff in same dreadful position

This is a new and grim departure in the destruction of healthcare in gaza

The PRCS ambulance centre in Jabalia is besieged and surrounded by tanks

I have just seen the same. The latest development is extremely concerning

The Palestinian Red Crescent (PRCS) says its ambulance depot in Jabalia, northern Gaza, has been surrounded and besieged by Israeli forces.
It said the depot had been besieged from all directions and there are 127 people inside the centre including workers, displaced persons and injured people.

I have been seeing the aftermath of the strikes in Jabaliya and it is beyond words.
Just body parts everywhere
I don't know how the hospitals are coping at all
Even the staff must be so traumatised by what they have seen, I don't know how they continue

There are air strikes happening right now in the vicinity of the Kuwaiti hospital in Rafah

Kuwaiti hospital not big enough to handle large number of injuries

More ambulances and paramedics are coming back from the site of the attack with more injured people.

The problem with this hospital is that its of a small size, and will not be able to take this large number of injuries.

It’s mainly for basic medical intervention procedures, and eventually the injured will have to be transferred from here to other hospitals. - like where???

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12881855/Hamas-fighters-use-hospitals-terror-bases-director-admits.html

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Still doesn’t give anyone the right to kill children and sick people and doctors and nurses, mate.

The 127 paramedics, injured and displaced people at the PRCS ambulance depot in Jabaliya are still being besieged by IDF tanks and snipers

This is where the 'evidence' that hospitals were being used as military bases by Hamas.

No legal representation, no actual evidence presented. Just an obviously frightened man saying things that may or may not be true and may or not be his own words.

How can anyone watch this and say it's legit? We don't know what they've threatened him with or whether he's been tortured. It's about as valid as a witch trial

Absolutely. Surely people aren't so stupid as to accept this as evidence in this day and age. Ridiculous.

This comments was made under interrogation and no other proof has been provided. It is widely documented that the IDF threaten those they interrogate.

We have seen so far that Hamas has not used these hospitals as bases such that international law to be broken.

Hamas fighters need to be firing at the IDF from hospitals. That isn't happening.

Tbh we have gotten so far past the point of even arguing that now. It's clear the IDF is ethnic cleansing and destroying infrastructure.

I've not watched the Youtube or read the DM article but I have slogged my way thro' the New York Post piece which I'm assuming is where the DM scraped the copy

I'd really like to read an account in a 'proper newspaper' like the Times, Guardian or Telegraph, or by the BBC or Channel 4 but wonder if that will happen because it's unverifiable testimony and possibly/likely obtained by torture.

Really fear that the accounts in the bottom-feeding rags will become the accepted un-questioned 'truth' as to why Israel has systematically removed almost all healthcare from the civilian population of Gaza

Nobody has the right to do that, but see, I don't think this is deliberately happening.

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Australian MSF doctor confirming unacceptable numbers of dead and permanently maimed children in Gaza and targeting of hospitals and MSF ambulances. She says MSF has been accused of not being neutral by reporting this.
More attempts at censorship imo.

PRCS ambulance depot in Jabaliya remains under siege with IDF shelling and sniper fire

WHO visited Al Shifa and Al Ahili again yesterday trying to keep what little remains supported/alive with hope to restore in future

WHO have said there are no functioning hospitals in the north again

Since Israel's military assault began on 7 October, at least 300 healthcare workers have been reported killed. This is more than the total number of health worker deaths recorded across all countries in conflict last year, and in any single year since 2016.

The above sadly just says it all

@Parkingt111 so sad and this kind of stuff needs shouting from the rooftops.