March against antisemitism on Sunday

[SharonEllis]

1.30 pm Royal Courts of Justice to Parliament Square

Exactly, and as been pointed out, you would get far more people attending a march against antisemitism if it were to be known that Israeli flags were not to be flown or that those who did turn up with them were told to roll them up.
PHEW

Israel has done very well at equating being Jewish with supporting Israel and Zionism.

That doesn't make it true

You miss understand me. I was saying I have not answered your posts before because I had not noticed any from you. Not saying you haven't posted. It was just you said that you posted a photo nobody commented on.

I don't like flags in general unless at for supporting a national sports team or something like government or royalty. So any flag waving is a bit blah to me

I take it you don't agree with Arafat's flag getting waved in support of Gazan civilians them?

@parksandrecs most of us agree with you. I am not sure why you want to pursue it?
We don't answer for everyone who attended and as has been pointed out a million times.... we are only responsible for our own actions and intent not others.
I know why I went.
I understand why you didn't.

So you won't march with those waving the flag of Arafat designed for him in the 60s then. What with him being brutally honest about what the 'Arab Cause' is about. After all you are obviously very moralistic and don't march under a flag that is a sign of a genocidal endeavour

True but I would say allowing ex hamas leader to help organise the a march is more questionable. Plus allowing know Islamic extremists to organise is equally questionable

In the UK we got the EDL leader banned from even reporting on the march and he ended up being arrested for turning up

Shame the pro protesters didn't do the same to some of the organisers!

Trulywonderful wrote
"I take it you don't agree with Arafat's flag getting waved in support of Gazan civilians them (sic) ?"

That march was organised by the palestinian solidarity committee, which, unsurprisingly was a march in solidarity with Palestine. So flying the Palestinian flag would not be unremarkable.

The march against antisemitism was simply that. It was not a march for Israel.

If you want to have a march for Israel, that's fine, it's called freedom of experssion, but I doubt you would have many attending, at least not with the way that nation is behaving at the moment. Were it to withdraw from the west bank and make a number of other serious concessions, then the nation might gain more sympathisers, but until that time.............................

And why aren't you referring to me as "honey" any more, like you used to ?

By all means have a march in support of Israel. Just don't call it a march for anti-semitism, because they are not the same thing

I think you mean

Stand against

Antisemitism

You know because semitic is a group of languages. So semitic doesn't really exsist on its own. Well unless people are anti that group of languages. Which would be very unusual in deed

I think @Trulywonderful your list of
stalkers is growing.

So you would object to the union Jack being at an event on the grounds you object to the current British government

OK glad that was clearer up

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Oh I think you do

I think we all do

Depdawg wrote
"I don't know why this one off march caused so many people to feel unsettled. Do you?"

Then

Trulywonderful replied
"Oh I think you do

I think we all do"

Oh tell us, tell us, please, please do. Don't keep us all in suspense, just exactly what is it that caused so many people to feel unsettled ?

Okay...? The straw man arguments are getting confusing.

I don't like flags at any of these things

However it is the flag of many currently the victim of Jew hate and the flag of many of the hostages. The pogrom happened because of Hamas and their regime that promotes Jew hate above all else. Not just Israeli hate but Jew hate as seen in the videos where leaders talk of slitting the throats of Jews etc

This all means that even non flag people like myself can see that the Israeli flag is fit to be at an antisemitism march. I would prefer it wasn't, however it isn't a symbol of the current government. It is the symbol of a state whose citizens world wide are experiencing great prejudice and bias against them.

Not strawman at all. Just what you said in your post about your owmorals on this

Try thinking on it

Beach, desert? Going anywhere nice this year?
You sound like you could use a break.

No Arafat's flag from the 60s is apparently the Palestinian one

I think I would prefer they just use Hamas flag on the marches it would be less insulting to those remember the history of Arafat flag

The right wing in the UK use St George's flag

The flag that represents England

Goodness I don't like flags

Why are we all having this conversation?

Flags suck

Okay, well when it comes to the UK flag no, I wouldn't fly it. At a protest, outside my home... not at all. I don't think others should be restricted, but I wouldn't march under the UK flag personally. The government doesn't treat most of its own citizens well, never mind immigrants and those being oppressed abroad, overall.

Then again, I don't feel like I strongly belong to any particular country. Not sure if that's good or bad, but I don't attach a great importance to nationality. I don't even like the notion of someone being called an "illegal immigrant" because they were born on a different body of land. That's a different topic though, and I don't want to derail.

Well, I have used it in the sense of (referenced many times on this thread) of being hostile to people who are Jewish.

But,if you haven't anything to counter what I have said then by all means make yourselves feel better by irrelvancies

Faith?

@Trulywonderful don't get me started about the Arafat's.

Ah I was thinking of Britain First and the BNP, who hijacked the Union flag. But yes, the St George's flag has been unfairly used by many such groups.

I would be happy for there to be no flags and everyone just existing happily wherever they happen to live, but I am aware that is (sadly) far, far, FAR too idealistic.

And whilst on the subject of flags on marches. Look at the top of the thread, specifically at the poster advertising the march against antisemitism. Of the scores of placards and flags......
NOT A SINGLE Israeli flag.
See how it was being advertised ?
I rest my case.