Israel has bombed the front of a hospital / 2

[Readingallnight]

Discussion re Israel’s bombing of hospitals, infrastructure and residential buildings

Agree.
They say they want to preserve victims’ privacy, so we are not entitled to any proof. We must take witnesses at their word.

Is this really enough though?
Why not ask international medics to confirm injuries/causes of death and present a report to everyone?
It’s the least Israel could do, if they’re asking everyone to believe that they are now justified in killing 11,000 people and making more than a million homeless.

By the above, I’m talking about some of the descriptions of what happened on Oct 7.

And you’re right, it still wouldn’t justify the deaths and injuries of so many children.

France is the latest country to criticise Israels operation in Al shifa hospital. I always thought France was very pro-Israel so quite suprised by their recent statements. I think the first sentence is something we all resonate with.

“The Palestinian population should not be made to pay for Hamas’s crimes, even less so the vulnerable, injured or sick and the humanitarian workers who courageously continue their work in extremely dangerous conditions,” the French foreign ministry said in a statement, reported by AFP.
France “expresses its very serious concern about Israeli military operations in [the] al-Shifa hospital,” the ministry added.

@Readingallnight surely it's naive to think that giving evidence etc will be done overnight? They have said they will provide it...

In regards to tunnels and bunkers under Al shifa hospital, sky's military analysis posted a piece today which included this. I actually didn't know that Israel also built them in Gaza

"We all know there are bunkers and tunnels because the Israelis built some of them when they were in control of the al Shifa hospital before 2005," he said.

They are very Pro- Israel and still are.

They are concerned about a Muslim rebellion:
"Philippe Karsenty, a French-Jewish media analyst and former deputy mayor of the Paris suburb of Neuilly-sur-Seine, was more specific. “Macron is seeking to avoid a civil insurrection by Muslims. He doesn’t want another French intifada, so he’s betraying Israel,” said Karsenty."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/french-jews-worry-muslim-unrest-could-see-macron-flip-on-israel-putting-them-at-risk/

Reports from inside Al Shifa that the IDF have left the hospital and are now outside.
No report on what’s happened to the 200 or so men that were taken out of the hospital.
Hopefully they will stop bombing it now and allow medical supplies, fuel and food in.

@tobeinthemaldives I don't know much about French politics but I wouldn't be entirely suprised if it's more a political statement than one of genuine concern

Shame they didn’t invite the reporter from Al Jazeera who lives opposite the hospital in to al-Shifa with the IDF as an independent witness.
The IDF have allowed reporters to follow them about before.
Then we could have seen what is really happening.

Instead he was ordered to leave his home.

"Witnesses have in recent days described conditions inside the hospital as horrific, with medical procedures taking place without anaesthetic, families with scant food or water living in corridors, and the stench of decomposing corpses filling the air."

From the Guardian. Sounds horrific.

A witness inside the hospital told the BBC’s correspondent in Palestine, Rushdi Abu Alouf, that soldiers had entered the complex and “fired a smoke bomb that caused people to suffocate”. The Guardian has not been able to verify the claims.

Scared to think who they’ve taken with them and what are they going to do to these people 😪

I saw a video of doctors walking around some empty wards covered in smoke and coughing.
I don’t know if it’s the same incident but it was about the time the IDF said they were going in.
There was no military personal around.
Presumably the video was taken by another doctor,

15 doctor managed to get in yesterday into south gaza
https://twitter.com/MSF_USA/status/1724515367307907576

Wow
How incredibly brave

Another one for Israel and their lies

Evidence Points to Israeli Shells in Strikes on Gaza’s Largest Hospital
Israel said Palestinian militants had misfired projectiles, but an analysis of photos and videos of Friday’s strikes shows that some of the munitions were likely fired by Israeli forces.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/14/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-al-shifa-hospital.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-Uw.7gv_.x_1dMzwIoG-V&smid=url-share

So amongst other issues mentioned I particularly picked up on the glaringly obvious issue at the maternity ward.

Firing at the maternity ward
Tank shells found
Hamas do not have tanks.
Israel deny it was them firing….? So who then!

Worth a watch:

https://twitter.com/Delhiite_/status/1724852126973895137

The Israeli claimed they delivered humanitarian aid to Al Shifa hospital.

- Palestinian journalist tells how in reality the Israelis bIow up the medical storage with the little medicines the hospital had left.

Also from Twitter:

Premature babies in the intensive care unit (ICU) at Al Shifa Hospital were taken off incubators and relocated as Israel struck the hospital’s solar panels.

Six premature babies and nine injured patients at the hospital’s ICU reportedly died due to power outage

A doctor at al-shifa reported the IDF brought nothing with them.

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Were Hamas hiding under the solar panels then 🤣🤣
Really!