Israel has bombed the front of a hospital / 2

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Discussion re Israel’s bombing of hospitals, infrastructure and residential buildings

@ChickHenLittle that's works both ways doesn't it.... and shows why the relentless barrages of abuse at anyone who dare show a difference of opinion is wrong.

Yes, I respect people with opposite views and in my view on the whole the discussions on MN have been quite reasonable and hopefully allow those of us on both sides to hear the views of others.

As at 1pm the IDF were starting to examine other parts of the hospital and to see what tunnels if any are underneath, according to the BBC (who also had a reporter allowed in).

2m ago
14.47 GMT

All telecom services in the Gaza Strip have gone down as all energy sources sustaining the network have been depleted, Gaza’s main telecommunications companies Paltel and Jawwal said in a statement on Thursday.

Earlier there was a report that the UN was trying to evacuate patients from Al Shifa - [initially just the 37 prem babies and 27 other critically ill patients] to hospitals in southern Gaza or Egypt - but were struggling with logistics and security. Also were having difficulty communicating with the hospital

With no mobile phone/internet now any kind of evacuation sounds impossible

The PRCS is now saying the Ahli hospital is under violent attack
Sky news is trying to verify this

the absolute cruelty of attacking places where vulnerable people, injured people and babies and children are recovering and sheltering. No excuses. "But Hamas" does not cut the mustard on this.

Till now there has been no fuel allowed in Al shifa hospital despite desperate pleas that many patients will die

@Efacsen I saw that report from the WHO
There is no fuel even for the ambulances to even begin to evacuate even if they wanted to

What's going on is beyond belief. The situation is intolerable. I read today that Israel has warned the inhabitants of 4 towns in the south to flee. It seems that the intention is to flaten the whole of Palestine.

Its terrible. The head of one of the facilities in Al shifa have said they don't have any oxygen left, no water. People are screaming from thirst

also from BBC
A journalist inside Al-Shifa earlier told the BBC that "soldiers are everywhere, shooting in all directions"
Before his phone line cut off, he also said armoured bulldozers had been brought in

Absolutely.
So there is nothing left for anyone to go back to even if some are left alive to do so.
This was always the plan.

@Cadenza12 there are no safe places In Gaza.

No, no safe places. Why every voice isn't calling for this to stop, I just don't know.

Saw one Twitter post by the IDF claiming to have discovered rocket launchers next to MRI scanner machines in the hospital . A staged post by Israel as the building wouldn’t still be standing if you had rockets next to an MRI.

@Cadenza12 the leaders every day condemn this and condemn that and show concern here and show concern there but does if make a difference? Every day the horror continues. They can stop it if they wanted but they don't

It's a dangerous precedent - our leaders endorse this horror, it's flaunted in our faces with full media coverage. Morality, justice, law mean nothing and once they have shown us what they can do to innocent people there, those on the further reaches of the right will be doing it to us here. This is not the future we want for any children.

Have been reading up about the university in Gaza. - wondering what has happened to all the students and lecturers. It was established in 1972 after the Israeli occupation in 1967 and restrictions on travel to other countries for further education.
It was bombed by Israel in 2008 war and looks liked Israel have bombed it again now. 17,000 students have lost their futures and probably many their lives.

UNRWA sound beyond p'd off

UNRWA chief says 'deliberate attempt to strangle' UN agency's operations in Gaza

Philippe Lazzarini, the commissioner general of the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA), has said he believed there was a deliberate attempt to “strangle” its humanitarian work in Gaza.

Speaking to journalists in Geneva on Thursday, he said:

''I do believe there is a deliberate attempt to strangle our operation and paralyse the operation.''

He added that UNRWA, which supports more than 800,000 displaced Palestinians in Gaza, was at risk of suspending its operations entirely.

The UN agency has pleaded for weeks for access to fuel, he said, adding that it was “outrageous” to force humanitarian aid agencies to beg for fuel.

A truck carrying 24,000 litres (6,340 gallons) of diesel fuel for UN aid distribution trucks was allowed into Gaza on Wednesday – marking the first time Israel has approved a truck carrying fuel into Gaza since the start of the war.

The delivery is nowhere near what Gazans need to survive, Lazzarini said, adding:

Because of the lack of fuel, we will not be able to send our trucks across the south of the Gaza Strip where we have people waiting for humanitarian deliveries.

I worked with some student nurses who were attending there back in the mid/late 90's. The hope was for us to set up an exchange program but I don't think it ever happened. I've thought about where they are now quite a lot in recent weeks.

The situation is deteriorating rapidly in hospitals in Gaza tonight. Indonesian hospital have announced they have now closed down as they are unable to continue anymore. 45 patients who need urgent surgery are now in the reception area with nowhere to go

Al ahli hospital have said they are surrounded and bombing all around
A dialysis patient in Al shifa has died after the electricity was cut off after the raid and a serious risk of more babies dying!

It's absolute madness
How can anyone still defend this??
I don't understand why isn't anything being done? It's being reported on nearly every news channel

It is indefensible. You can tell that even those who try are clutching at straws now. Public opinion definitely isn't in favour of the Israeli government, and more leaders actually seem to be slowly toning down their shows of support, while others have outright condemned them. Even Biden is toning it down and seems very unsure after the horrific events at Al Shifa.

we do not support..." is not good enough.

No it's useless, it's the equivalent of me wagging my finger saying " tut tut, naughty naughty" ..

Sunak's gone very quiet, what happened to the "We support Israel 100%" bollocks?

How can anyone still defend this??
I don't understand why isn't anything being done? It's being reported on nearly every news channel.

It's horrible. However, there are many other places in the world where similar things are happening but they aren't being reported in the news (not in the UK anyway).

Pre-modern healthcare around a third of women died in childbirth. I'm guessing we will start to see that fairly soon.

Terrifying.

@Nicesalad I agree
But I can't think of anywhere else right now that is being ferociously bombed and none of the innocent civilians can physically escape whether its by land, air or sea.
Even the children
All trapped in a open air prison