After this there will be silence

[notsoready4school]

Are we really just going to just let this happen. I was upset about the protest ban in France but at least he has finally spoken up. When is the UK going to finally say something and stop letting this happen in our name.

This is the moment we have been warning the whole world the Gaza Deputy Health Minister Dr. Youssef Abu Alreesh, currently inside al-Shifa Hospital as it is takes heavy fire from Israeli forces.
Here are his translated comments:

• This is the moment we have been warning the whole world of, all generators are off, all power sources are out.
• We have 39 newborns in the incubators, those babies are fighting against death.
• No one is able to move around the compound, snipers are stationed all over the place in addition to the drones that target and kill any moving person.
• A few minutes ago one of the engineering team was hit by a sniper, he was hit in the neck and was paralysed and he’s now about to die.
• Part of the hospital was shelled and part of the building caught fire, we fear it will engulf the whole compound.
• A few families tried to leave but they were targeted; now they are lying dead outside the hospital. We cannot get to them.
• We are totally stranded, we are cut off from the outside world, and above all, we are left without any medical resources. We cannot even bury the dead.
• Ferocious gunfire can be heard within the vicinity of the hospital, the intensive care unit received a mortar shell a few minutes ago.
• Blood is everywhere, on the floor, we cannot even clean it.
• In the past, the Israeli killing machine was killing and this was conveyed on TV screens. Now they are perpetrating the same killing but no one is listening, no one is watching, the whole world is standing by.
• We are speaking with whatever is left of my phone battery, after that, we will be silent.

Here’s your proof that 40 beheaded babies isn’t true:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna119902

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/12/middleeast/israel-hamas-beheading-claims-intl/index.html

And re: the baby in the oven story, it was Eli Beer who said “we found a baby in an oven” when it turned out that he wasn’t even there. The guy is a complete goon.

He got it as second hand information from another guy who wasn’t at the crime scene but was working in the morgue who said that the baby looked like it had gone in an oven. He is not qualified to make such a claim.

Coen from Kikar HaShabbat wrote:

"There is a certain story that has been published on social networks in recent weeks. Oven. From checking with the IDF, Zakah, Shura camp and more – you don't know of such an event. Spreading incorrect stories will harm Israeli propaganda.”

@Stomacharmeleon You’ve completely put words in my mouth again. I didn’t say anything to do with what you wrote.

Of course it matters that it’s a lie. If I said that the IDF weren’t just letting babies die in incubators, but they’re also beheading them, do you not think that would need to be corrected?

I couldn’t agree more that it undermines the truth of what happened, like hundreds of people getting killed is somehow not bad enough for the Israeli far-right so they have to make up shit on top to dehumanise and divide.

I’m not for a second trying to undermine the attacks, but pieces of shit like Eli Beer making things up and then going on tours of the US to profit from his lies is beyond fucked. Look him up.

This is just fucking grim on a thread about babies dying in NICU.

Did you do the same on the Lucy Letby threads?

This. Humanitarian personnel who have worked there many times over the years have stated they have never seen any evidence of this. It has also been proved independently too. Israel want you to believe this, they want to justify their killing of innocent civilians, they are not human shields, they are doctors and nurses trying to save lives including their own.

You're very wrong in saying there wasn't support for the provos in NI. I'm from a nationalist community and while I don't support bombing many did as they supported any way out of where they were as so many people were left in oppressed situation and dealing with the army and complete inequality. The English left a shit show here and wiped there hands of it and still do. Democracy didn't come into people wanting to remain in the UK, many don't and by today's logic you should include those of ROI and you'd find it's not the majority so don't pull the card. You actually sound very ignorant to the situation in N.I and would be better not commenting on N.I also

For those saying that the constant attacks on Al-Shifa are made up by Hamas, here is a tweet from Doctors Without Borders:

Because this IS the case. Those Hamas terrorists use Palestinian civilians as human shields, they infest civilian infrastructure as a cover in the hopes they’re not targeted. To believe otherwise is incredibly naive.

Why don't Hamas let their people into their tunnels to protect them.

And still no answers.

Doctors Without Borders have said that Israel’s constant bombardment of Al Shifa has meant that no medical staff who want to leave the hospital are able to do so safely.

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-11-11-23/h_7a910ee72765394b924b5db36a40fcae

Constant bombardment is keeping staff and patients from evacuating Gaza's largest hospital as resources run thin, according to Doctors Without Borders. Israel's military has acknowledged clashes with Hamas operatives around the Al-Shifa Hospital, but denied firing on or laying siege to the medical center.

What's happening with the four hour windows? Have they started yet? Can people leave then? I mean staff and people able to leave clearly.

“We are surrounded, we cannot bury our dead. We are going to create a mass grave within the hospital compound,” he told Al Jazeera.

“We do not have any equipment or machinery to dig the grave. We have to bury these bodies otherwise epidemics will break out. These bodies have been lying on the street for days.”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/11/we-are-minutes-away-from-death-gazas-al-shifa-hospital-under-attack

From the Red Cross about Al-Quds hospital:

We are deeply alarmed to hear that the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) teams at the Al-Quds hospital have again this morning been told to immediately evacuate the hospital. Hospitals are places of help and refuge; they must be protected at all cost.

PRCS’s Al-Quds hospital in Gaza city is caring for hundreds of injured people and bed-ridden, long-term patients. Evacuating patients, including those in intensive care, on life-support and babies in incubators, is close to, if not impossible in the current situation. Our teams also report violent attacks and shelling very close to the hospital further endangering people. Al-Quds Hospital is operated by PRCS, a component of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, and together with other medical missions and facilities are protected under international humanitarian law.

We are deeply concerned about the safety of patients, health care workers and the thousands who have taken refuge in Al-Quds Hospital. Healthcare workers should never be put in front of the impossible dilemma of leaving patients behind or risking their lives staying in the hospital.

https://www.ifrc.org/article/ifrc-statement-evacuation-order-al-quds-hospital-gaza

@Stomacharmeleon so even if there has been a pause, it may not be at times when doctors and medical staff need to leave. They also can’t leave knowing that they may not be able to return. Or if they do leave anyway, they are making the decision to leave an already intensely overwhelmed hospital and all of their patients, to save their own life, which must be a horrific decision to be forced to make.

The IDF murdering innocent children and babies, it is disgusting. The fact that no israeli supporter can say that is abhorrent.

The most I saw was that it was a “mistake” because the “optics of it don’t look good” - as in, it’s only bad because, from a PR perspective, it might harm Israel.

Israel doesn’t let controls Gaza. It doesn’t allow them any ports, any trade, any means of water. What do you mean? Do you not know that?

The only reason Israel has responsibility is because after it withdrew it used controlled the area and the people have no control for anything outside of the border. It is not a ‘country’ it is completely controlled by Israel.

it is another type of occupation and that is agreed terminology.

100% this.

Completely disagree. After the Manchester Arena attack, I remember seeing a FB post with a picture of a missile with the words written on it 'Love from Manchester'. All I could think of was how awful it was, if that was to be fired it wouldn't land on the terrorists that had committed the atrocity, it would hit innocent children, just like the ones that died after the Ariana Grande concert. So no, I think you're completely wrong. Though, I do think there are people like you and they are the ones that will become the terrorists!

You need to understand more on how that defence budget works. It is a spending allowance on USA weapons, you can only go shopping there if you are using it for a cause supported by them otherwise the goods wont be delivered. Causes USA agree with are Yemen, Iran etc.

Not Israel which has lost its way so spectacularly but even then USA doesn’t do anything

Read up about the war there before you start commenting.

@notsoready4school apart from the black market trade coming through the tunnels eg rockets, race horses. You think it would have better priorities eg feed its people..

Also Israel provide around 13 % of drinking water. Not all.

Well I’m no army general or politician but you know what US has the best experience and intelligence on this, they told them not to do this and definitely could have advised them how to do it better. Especially in a way that saves their hostages and potentially lets the country move on and people heal. But the way that Israel has approached is wrong for everyone but Hamas. Wrong for the hostages, wrong for the Israelis, wrong for the Palestinians and even wrong for the Government’s standing at home. I can’t think of anything worse they could have done, can you?

Everyone was asking to condemn the actions of Hamas and everyone did but now when things are so obviously abhorrent and they are the perpetrators, nothing.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzhUSAptqf3/?igshid=Y2NkYjk0MDhjYg==
this is what the nasty vile Israeli soldiers are up to. Not a mention about hostages though. I think they don’t care much for any hostages. They just want to kill as many people as possible. Israel has forced the Palestinians into the smallest amount of land. These people are living in such close proximity. These comments you keep spewing about Hamas hiding behind civilians is ridiculous. They have no space because Israel stole Palestinians land. Israel has the most advanced spyware and surveillance technology they can find anyone if they really want to. Israel just want to continue with the genocide

Israel controls 100% of everything that comes in and out. It is occupied by the definitions of UN. Hamas only had control within the territory.

Who cares? What is your point? Did Israel want to kill well fed fat people and healthy children only?

Are you aware that Hamas continues to pour rockets on Israel?

If they care about their people, they should announce their own ceasefire. Why is the demand for a ceasefire being targeted at Israel only when Hamas is doing this too?