Justifying the rape of women

[armchairactivist1]

Something I keep coming back to.. for the people whose sympathies lie with the Palestinians and think an eye for an eye and that Hamas have been pushed to act the way they have, how do you justify the brutal rape of women by Hamas?
Post edited by MNHQ

Wait, I am slandering you? You repeatedly insinuated I'm either some kind of bot or paid by Israel to be here.

You said yourself yesterday that you have a history of struggling with condemning antisemitism and now you're saying you have condemned it? At least I assume you mean condemn. It's the second time you've said condone instead. Or should I be taking your comment as literally as you're choosing to take mine, despite my explanation?

You'll find that I wasn't one of those posters you're talking about in your last paragraph and you'll also find that I have said that all rape is equally bad. So stop harassing me. Just leave me alone. You've had your fun, now drop it.

I think we need to move on and talk about the actual topic of the thread.

@PeasfullPerson I thought you were done? Or did you mean the opposite?

I’ve already shared this on a different thread but I’m re-posting it here as it seems relevant.

This is food for thought for anyone who thinks that for some reason Palestinian’s aren’t being subjected to sexual abuse.

It’s hard to believe when females conscripts are being treated this way.

I wonder if we would hear of more incidences, if there wasn’t a ban on journalists and health services were properly functioning.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/comptroller-one-in-four-female-police-conscripts-experience-sexual-harassment/

You posted one 11 year old link and then a 2 year old screenshot to say they're restarting their failed efforts. Restarting means they stopped at some point. And somehow that turns into Israel paying for online comments for decades? And you want us to take your comments and accusations seriously?

Maybe you should've started with that.

Unlike Israel’s supporters, I deal only in facts. Not racist propaganda designed to justify genocide.

What the fuck does that have to do with the topic of the thread? Nothing. Just an excuse for you to throw around words like "genocide".

@PeasfullPerson you think it's just Israel that has an issue with that? No, harrassment of women is a global issue. One second of googling for instance:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/04/dozens-of-uk-police-officers-disciplined-over-relationships-with-victims-witnesses

You literally just posted that to make inferrences and distract from the actual victims that this thread topic is about. Why do that?

You missed this bit which is from the autopsy reports:

”Many victims' bodies were found mutilated and bound, with sexual organs brutally attacked, and in some cases, weapons were inserted into them. Some bodies were discovered deliberately booby-trapped. It is essential to note that the report details only information from identified sources permitted for publication, while analysis includes additional confidential information that cannot be disclosed publicly.”

And this bit from my link also referencing autopsy reports:
”According to the report, these violations also occurred at IDF bases. Bodies of female soldiers that arrived at Camp Shura for forensic identification bore unmistakable signs of sexual violence.“

Just because a local police guy doesn’t have autopsy reports, as quoted in the NYT, that doesn’t mean there are no autopsies done.

theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/

Interesting article accusing The New York Times of publishing propaganda.

Interesting article accusing The New York Times of publishing propaganda.

That is hardly an impartial, unbiased source, is it? But another day, another denail of Hamas atrocities. Plus ça change.

One can utterly condemn Hamas and 7/10 but be equally horrified at the Gazan death toll.

For me all this comes down to whether in 5 10 or 20 years time, Israel will be safer?
I would say what Israel is doing is sowing the seeds for decades of further terror, as have Hamas with 7/10 and the taking & treatment of the hostages.

@SomeCatFromJapan Did you read the article? Would be interested to know which parts you feel are biased?

@inkworks273 I had a good old look around the whole site.

One can utterly condemn Hamas and 7/10 but be equally horrified at the Gazan death toll.

And people are, on several other threads in this section.

I wonder if the people so determined to discredit the stories of rape on 7/10 do so with all rape survivors?

Well a poster ( pro Israeli government) graded rape. As a survivor, I found this beyond the pale.

@ByGreyOP of course they don't.....we all know why.

Source?

It’s on another thread in this section.

That's helpful.

I can't remember which thread and don't have the time to look for it. It is there though.

Lots of pro-Hamas posters are denying and minimising the sexual violence that occurred on 7th of October.

I don't have the time to look for it to actually prove it's true, but as I have said it is true I fully expect you to believe it.

i know the thread. However , linking it is TAAT which is against guidelines