Justifying the rape of women

[armchairactivist1]

Something I keep coming back to.. for the people whose sympathies lie with the Palestinians and think an eye for an eye and that Hamas have been pushed to act the way they have, how do you justify the brutal rape of women by Hamas?
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So you don’t care to answer and will deflect it back to me. OK. As you wish.

For someone who has made such a big song and dance about how all you want is peace and for people to stop with name-calling, you really aren't making yourself look good.

I assume you're accusing me of being some kind of paid for Hasbara? Or will you not even admit to your ridiculous accusation when asked directly?

@Humdingerydoo are you seriously expecting me to answer your questions when you are trying to dodge mine??

Yes, because you're the one trying to insinuate something entirely false about me. You know exactly what you're doing.

I hope you got all the "thanks" you wanted with that accusation. It's quite clearly its only purpose.

Oh and by the way, I obviously deny the accusation as it's absolute bullshit. Hope you're happy now 👍🏻

I still have no idea what ‘job’ it is you are doing here or who the ‘us’ is.

All I know is that you are annoyed about being asked and don’t want to answer, which as I said is obviously your choice.

I thought it was quite obvious that it wasn't a literal comment. It's not a literal job. It was similar to "you're proving my point for me". Hopefully you can stop being so antagonistic about it now 👍🏻 Conspiracy theories don't suit you

Actually I’d say it was very different from that term you referenced above, because it shows you see yourself as part of a group and that you see that group as having a job to do.

Ok well I'm telling you that's not the case 🤷🏻‍♀️ You continuing to be be overly literal about a flippant comment I made after I've explained that's all it was is a you problem, not a me problem. Stop making accusations against me, it's getting ridiculous.

Do you have anything to say about the actual topic of the thread, or are you just plopping on to be goady as you do with every other thread?

@Humdingerydoo It seems to me it is you that is having a problem answering the question, which as I said you aren’t obliged to.

I won’t comment anymore as it seems you are struggling with this, and have resorted to insults.

Maybe @qunari is part of what you consider to be your group. But actually yes we should stop this and get back to the topic.

I answered your question. You ignored the answer so you could continue harassing me instead. Stop making these fucking ridiculous insinuations!

I don't know @Humdingerydoo , have no personal or internet connection with them, am not Jewish, am not Israeli, etc etc (not sure what spin you might put on this), but will try and answer on their behalf - not because I am certain of my ground, but just because I can't bear watching someone being attacked so viciously.

The way I see it is that you and others are aggressively in denial of what is effectively the second Holocaust. It's sickening and terrifying.

I used to contribute to these threads, but lost the heart for it when I began to realise that adult debate is simply not possible here. I value and protect my inner calm.

you see yourself as part of a group and that you see that group as having a job to do
I actually used to see myself as part of a group that had a job to do on here. I had a strong sense of responsibility for truth in the face of the TikTok nonsense that seems to prevail. It grieved me terribly that vile injustices were being spoken here. Like an abused wife, I just kept thinking: "If only I could get them to understand, everything would be different."

I've ceased caring, though. I've come to understand that some people just enjoy seeing things a certain way. It's awful to think that history repeats itself because it has to (no one listens), but that's how things are and there is fuck all I can do about it.

Yes we're part of the same club, we meet up every Tuesday. 🙄

I have a laminated badge....@qunari

Well at least you don't beat around the bush with your accusations.

Unlike Israel’s supporters, I deal only in facts. Not racist propaganda designed to justify genocide.

Yes, at least that poster is brave enough to actually openly make their disgusting comments rather than just hint at them. Credit where credit is due and all that.

Anyway, I'll see you all at the next group meeting on Tuesday, yeah? We'll have to meet a bit earlier than usual so we can travel back in time 11 years and sign up for the programme mentioned in the link.

Thank you @Dibilnik , I appreciate your support. I know I should've just ignored the poster but it's hard to do when you're being attacked like that.

You'd think a thread about rape victims would be a place where everyone can just agree it was a horrendous thing to have happened and condemn it all outright, but I guess some people just hate Israel and Israelis so much that they can't bring themselves to feel sorry for them and would rather spend their time harassing other posters 🤷🏻‍♀️

Oh @Humdingerydoo please stop slandering me and playing the victim.

You have sworn at me, picked over my words and hurled accusations at me a number of times.

I asked you questions which after your statement were perfectly valid.

You do seem to spend an awful lot of time on here and pop up with the same group of people so it wouldn’t surprise me at all if you were speaking between yourselves.

It’s incredibly hypocritical of you to ask for me to not take what you’ve said literally when whatever I say, even when I condone antisemitism, is consistently picked apart and twisted around.

This thread was commented on recently because of appalling behaviour by some posters who wanted to dismiss evidence of rape and sexual abuse against Palestinians, and then argued that it didn’t matter because what happened on October 7th was worse. No ‘level’ of rape is OK, it is not OK full stop.

@Fancylike that article is ten years old.

@PeasfullPerson

I won’t comment anymore as it seems you are struggling with this,

And then a comment of biblical proportions.

You do seem to spend an awful lot of time on here and pop up with the same group of people

@PeasfullPerson you are hilarious.