I’m not saying I’m pro Israel, however..:

[Lelophants]

Surely most people can understand that if Israel was Great Britain and Hamas came and massacred children and innocent people in early October, then Great Britain would go to war and absolutely hammer them back? You just have to look at the response to any other war we’ve had. Do you really think the British government would behave perfectly in this situation? Do you think any western nation would do anything else in response to such an attack? I can genuinely see British people screaming in the streets to murder all babies of Hamas if this was the case. (Not saying it’s right!! I just don’t think we would be better in any way!!)

Personally I find this a really complicated conflict due to the deep history and I feel deeply sorry for civilians on each side.

No but we killed lots of babies and children when we bombed Iraq but the press coverage of it was pretty sanitised, didn't like to mention that. Nobody really talks about it.

BTW most Israelis aren't calling for babies to be murdered either, it's Netanyahu's government. Just as our govt does things we don't want.

Equating Hamas with ISIS is outright propaganda anyway. It's easier to throw such loaded equivalencies around

Hamas have behaved in exactly the same way as Isis did ( as did Al Qaeda incidentally, videoing their vile crimes and posting them on the internet).

Far right nutcases. They don't even hide it and still they're allowed to continue their campaign of terror on Gaza.

Bloody hell. That is some sick shit.

That’s awful

Well, the Anglo-Saxons and Celts of Britain had to find ways to accommodate their new rulers, in 1066, didn't they?

There is nothing new under the sun

New rulers? LOL

The Zionist Yoke.

Not quite the same as what happened to Israel recently. Have you actually seen what happened? A lot of it wasn’t broadcast as well as what’s been happening in Gaza

I’m aware (although I haven’t seen any footage of murdered kids. And if it’s out there I don’t wanna see it)

With all due respect I don’t think you can say the UK responded to terrorism in a more restrained manner because it wasn’t proper terrorism. Like - they killed a bunch of people but being blown up is a nice quick death really and most of them were adults so it’s fine.

Looks like most of them were shot actually. Sorry if you think that’s a bit meh OP

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_killed_by_the_Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army

You don’t want to go on twitter then.

You don’t want to go on twitter then.

Fine. I won’t. Anything else?

My degree specialism is genocide and inter ethnic conflict.

It's a very in depth area

My views on this are still very simple: if you need to murder a child to exact revenge on a terrorist, then guess what? You don't kill the child. That will never be ok. So what if the terrorist lives?

Oh so true. There’s nothing else to say.

So what if the terrorist lives?

The trouble with terrorists is that they't not very nice people.

They tend to go on and do some pretty dreadful things, usually with children involved.

My views on this are still very simple: if you need to murder a child to exact revenge on a terrorist, then guess what? You don't kill the child. That will never be ok. So what if the terrorist lives?

So are you assuming that they killed the children on purpose, for "revenge"?

Revenge is how it’s looking to a lot of people. Because it won’t solve terrorism.

You mean like bombing thousands of them?

It would be easier not to bomb thousands of them if Gazans themselves helped out with identifying and locating the Hamas terrorists who have not only attacked Israel, but (if we are to give them the benefit of the doubt) have kept "innocent Gazans" hopelessly subjugated for years.

So what if the terrorist lives?

Given the threat they showed on October 7th you’d like not be blasé if close enough

I wouldn’t be blasé.
But pointlessly murdering thousands of innocent children and destabilising an entire region, including my own country, wouldn’t be what I’d want or expect my government to do.

Would you want the threat from terrorists stopped?

You can ask for it done another way if you have one, but I presume all would want to be safe from October 7th atrocities occurring again

If you cage up civilians 50% of whom are children, and then start lobbing bombs into the captives how is it not “on purpose”. Shameful inhuman behaviour that can NEVER be justified.

So you think it's ok for the Israelis to kill over 3000 children???

With the level of anger from neighbouring ME countries at what Israel is doing right now, Israel certainly isn’t making its own citizens safe.

You’d still want terrorists stopped though.