What does 'ceasing responsibility for life' mean?

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I'm sorry for the DM link. I want to know what is meant by Israel 'ceasing responsibility for life' means though. I don't understand.

So why didn't Palestinians accept olmert's peace deal? Why did they even launch the 2nd intifada to begin with and oslo in favour of killing?

Ariel Sharon tends to get the blame for that, causing riots by visiting the Temple Mount.

Does that even make sense to you? So there's a peace process ,an Israeli politician (in opposition) goes to the Temple Mount (and while provocative, why shouldn't he? It's a public space.). And the Palestinians say, well, that's it, let's start a second intifada, blow up the entire peace process, give up on our dreams of our state, because someone visited the temple mount? It doesn't make sense because it's not the reason, it's an excuse. They'd planned and prepared for it .

No, the real reason the second intifada happened was because Arafat was not willing to sign an end to the conflict which did not include a full right of return for all Palestinian refugees. He was a terrorsit his whole life and he didn't give it up in the end.

Does that even make sense to you? So there's a peace process ,an Israeli politician (in opposition) goes to the Temple Mount (and while provocative, why shouldn't he? It's a public space.). And the Palestinians say, well, that's it, let's start a second intifada, blow up the entire peace process, give up on our dreams of our state, because someone visited the temple mount? It doesn't make sense because it's not the reason, it's an excuse. They'd planned and prepared for it

To be honest I can understand why his actions sparked riots and then the riots escalated. I very much doubt it was planned. What Arafat thought about it I don’t know.

There’s a useful summary of the history of Palestine (as it’s referred to) by the UN which mentions that the second infiada was triggered by Sharon (or at least that seems to be the implication)

https://www.un.org/unispal/history/

It’s strange, but I get the impression neither side were ready to give up the fight. The likes of Arafat and Sharon had been fighting their whole lives perhaps it was all they knew.

There’s a video at the top of the page I linked to that states that, despite agreeing to the Oslo accords, Israel continued to build settlements in the land recognised as Palestinian so I guess that probably had more to do with it.

The beginning of mass murder, not just in Gaza and the West Bank but when the increasingly angry neighbours become involved, Israel’s own citizens too. And then the US and Iran and everyone else.

Even if Netanyahu succeeds in murdering every man, woman and child trapped in that strip of land, unable to leave, he won’t have eliminated Israel’s enemies. He’ll have made many many more. I don’t think he cares. He just wants to score kills. He thinks he’s in a video game.

There is a lot of loud “we’re going in any day now” and videos of Netanyahu slapping soldiers on the back going on. Too loud in one sense. Who knows what sleight of hand is really happening. Hoping lots of talking and negotiating going on all the while in the background.

Agreed

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Hamas terrorists invaded Israel. Now it will need to live with the consequences. Israel is the only decent democratic regime out in the Middle East. We need to fight hard to preserve democracy and our freedoms. There are plenty on the planet from Hamas to Iran to Russia who want to take that away.

What about the innocent Palestinian who has had their land taken from them and are now kept imprisoned in Gaza and the West Bank by the Israeli government? Restricting their ability to move freely and have access to food, water, electricity and medical care can’t be acceptable.

By 'it' do you mean the Palestinians?

Hamas terrorists invaded Israel. Now it will need to live with the consequences

Well you could reverse that and say Israel is living with the consequence of its actions.
I don’t think anyone has much sympathy for Hamas it’s the Palestinian civilians that cause the concern.

Yeah I’d think twice before shouting proudly about Israel’s credentials as a democracy.

first there’s the gem of Netanyahu saying some of its citizens (non Jews) aren’t equal to others.

Then you’ve got all that nasty apartheid business

Then you’ve got this lovely development that’s been brewing for a while now

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-66751706.amp

Truly a bastion of the democratic world!

That’s right - both sides are living with consequences. Which side do you think is suffering more? Which side has the bigger incentive to change their strategy?

as I asked earlier, but nobody wanted to answer: we’re 75 years in from the independence of the State of Israel. How is the Palestinian’s strategy working out for them?Are they happy with what they’ve achieved? Is it going to plan?

Oh and then there’s all that inconvenient business of Netanyahu propping up Hamas for years because it suited his agenda of hindering Palestinian statehood.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/

Another nugget that’s glossed over by the Israel genocide apologists

https://www.timesofisrael.com/carter-says-hamas-leader-committed-to-peace-netanyahu-not/amp/

That’s right - both sides are living with consequences. Which side do you think is suffering more? Which side has the bigger incentive to change their strategy?

as I asked earlier, but nobody wanted to answer: we’re 75 years in from the independence of the State of Israel. How is the Palestinian’s strategy working out for them?Are they happy with what they’ve achieved? Is it going to plan?

I’m not sure what they’re meant to do? According to the video I mentioned earlier Israel was grabbing land right from 1948 and the only bits it didn’t get were the bits Egypt and Jordon managed to gain control of. Israel got those after the 6 day war.
Israel seems to view this land as theirs really and if it’s true that Israel was building settlements on the Palestinian Territories even during the Oslo accords then they are are obviously not interested in anything but their own agenda.
This MO resulted in fanatical terrorism on the part of the population they displaced. Go figure.

I think Bassem Youssef had the perfect response to this.

“Dealing with Israel is like being in a relationship with a narcissistic psychopath. He f you over and then makes you think it’s your fault”.

Yes. I saw his interview with Piers Morgan.

That’s interesting, but it still doesn’t answer the question.

even if you think Israel behaves like a narcissistic psychopath, how’s it going for the Palestinians?

The UN proposed a partition plan in ‘46.

The Jews said yes, but the Arabs said no thanks and rolled the dice on a war, which they lost and the Jews won.

For 75 years the Arabs have been hoping for a re-do, while Israel got on with things.

how that going for the Palestinians? Is it working out the way they hoped?

The UN proposed a partition plan in ‘46.

The Jews said yes, but the Arabs said no thanks and rolled the dice on a war, which they lost and the Jews won.

Well why would the Arabs agree to give half their land to an influx of European immigrants ?
I mean it would have been lovely if they had but they didn’t and, at the risk of being cynical about human nature, that doesn’t seem so surprising.
It may of been helpful if Israel had only defended the land allotted to them in the partition plan instead of taking practically the whole lot. Shows what they thought of the two state solution.

how that going for the Palestinians? Is it working out the way they hoped?

Gloating eh?

All class.

At what point does everyone accept the reality of Israel's continued existence then? Because they're clearly not going anywhere so until that acceptance is reached, there is going to be bloodshed and suffering.

At what point does everyone accept the reality of Israel's continued existence then? Because they're clearly not going anywhere so until that acceptance is reached, there is going to be bloodshed and suffering

Hamas, as I argued earlier, kind of thrive on bloodshed. Get rid of Hamas or better yet, give the Palestinians reasons to turn against them.
How? Don’t know. No-one knows really do they?

Hamas, as I argued earlier, kind of thrive on bloodshed. Get rid of Hamas or better yet, give the Palestinians reasons to turn against them.
How? Don’t know. No-one knows really do they?

Agree. Both re getting rid of Hamas and the whole how the hell do they do that issue.

You’re still not answering the question: how is it going? Has the Palestinian strategy brought them what they hoped, 75 years ago?