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Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part2)

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Magic8ballhastheanswers · 30/04/2010 11:48

Nice clean thread for us - may there be many a BFP on here

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Hopefully · 04/05/2010 10:52

Oh, and WYG DP was very much of the wait and see mentality, but after 6 months is also wanting to make things happen, so is a bit more interested in symptoms/dates etc.

I used to get classic EWCM, but not so much any more. I'm contemplating an ovulation wee stick thingie this month, having avoided such a thing for so long.

clareanna · 04/05/2010 13:10

Popping on at desk - sshhh don't tell...
Just wanted to wave hello to hopefully sorry the break didn't have the desired effect- but hope we can help you through- good to have a place to rant sometimes away from RL x

bunder lunchtime now- you're half way through the day

Magic8ballhastheanswers · 04/05/2010 13:15

ok back as promised

Welcome back Hopefully you have come back to the right place - here to hold hands all the way! I hope the dr is able to help out, probably just things settling back down Time eh? Why do we always have to struggle against it?!?!

Hey Redhead I had a mmc/erpc and they told me to wait 3 months.....but I have also been told that you only need to have one period before ttc but more for dating issues.....the general consensus seems to be when you are ready. It can take a while for things to settle down post erpc so rtd might just be taking its time to come.......however if you feel you can and as its another week on perhaps try another test?

Hi Cheepz - very exciting about the move in July! Ah bless you welling up about DS nursery.

Hope your day improves Bunder x

Good luck with your blood tests hairy

Sounds like you had a lovely time dorcas I am quite as I spent the entire weekend doing house crap!

Any news on the job littlemiss??? Would be Tuesday in my head too btw!

Loving the micromanaging lucy

Anyone seen Viv I am on the edge of my seat.......although now I feel like I am putting too much pressure on her if she is lurking???

Nothing to report my end.......will be joining the 2ww soon aaaaagain!!!! Have a good afternoon all, off to do my accounts......YAWN!!!!

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Pollyanna · 04/05/2010 13:30

Hello all.

BUnder - I think I was in a similar position to you - bad iron levels etc meant I was off work for 3 weeks. It is tough I know, but it gets easier. For me it was a constant reminder of the pre miscarriage period which was grim and drawn out for me.

WYG I think we mced around the same time, and I am beginning to feel very stressed about it too! I think I am going to get a CBFM if I don't get pg this month. I do temp but am finding that not very informative- you only know you have ov'ed after the event which isn't very helpful. I am not totally sure I am ovulating as I am not getting any of the other signs. I am seeing an acupuncturist too, but feel a bit sceptical about that.

agree with everyone about the stress that is SWI - I don't know how best to handle dh, but I agree that it would be best if he could share the stress with me.

hairytriangle · 04/05/2010 13:45

lucy and Redheadgal thanks - blood test done, may have to wait til Friday for result, but I feel ok. Was a bit weird going out, I think I'm weaker than I thought, so sitting on my backside today

VivClicquot · 04/05/2010 14:43

Hello you lovely lot xx

Am back from the good ol' U S of A. We had a fabulous time - it was 90 degree blazing sunshine every day and it was really lovely to finally see what one of my best mates now calls home.

I can thoroughly recommend Baltimore - I'm a massive fan of the Wire, so to be honest, I was expecting it to be, well, a bit run down...! However, the harbour area is gorgeous and we also got to go to DC to see if Barry O was at home, which was pretty cool. (He was - we think we saw his helicopter land on the White House garden - amazing!)

That said - I'm afraid I'm going to disappoint you all massively on the upduff front. Rusty arrived one day early, the little fucker, which caused me to have a minor meltdown in my friend's bathroom after getting back from DC.

I've realised that my body is the ultimate wind-up merchant. Last month, it thought: "I know what will get her going - I'll make RTD come late." This month - "Oh, I'll give her achey tits for a week and then just when she's getting her hopes up, I'll make rusty turn up early."

I'm just so fucked off with it all. It's Gracie's due date on the 18th of this month, and I just assumed I'd be pregnant by the time it came around. Similarly, it was this time last year that I conceived our first mmc, and I didn't think one year down the line I still wouldn't have a bloody baby.

So despite the lovely break, I'm back to earth with the mother of all bumps, and just feel thoroughly bereft.

hopefully - like you, this will now be month 6 after conceiving first time around on both previous pregnancies. It just sucks. Am tempted to go to the doctors (seeing as it's been 12 months since we started trying) but am not sure whether they'd be able to do anything.

Sigh. So sorry to bring everyone down. Hope you all had a lovely bank holiday.

Much love
Viv xxx

VivClicquot · 04/05/2010 14:48

Oh stats for the list

Cycle 6 CD 3 x

Magic8ballhastheanswers · 04/05/2010 15:55

Rusty bloody bastard wanker! So sorry Viv - big hugs x Totally know what you mean about your body and its trickery and also coming up for a year, me and yous in the same boat this month (and the same week) Big hugs - here when you need (((((((())))))))) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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aly323 · 04/05/2010 16:16

BUnder, I can totally relate. My co-worker, who is also a friend, who is also due on the same day I would have been, is back today from her honeymoon. I sit literally 15 feet away from her. I had to put up a curtain to try to block off my cubicle. I can't talk to her and I've already cried numerous times this morning. She understands, I'm sure, but this really sucks. Chin up. It's going to be a long day, but we'll both make it through somehow. I'm going to allow myself to be very distracted and take it very easy today. You should do the same.

Curlylox · 04/05/2010 17:14

Sorry ladies feel I must explain as keep thinking what WYG said about my post being x-rated ("DH said I bounced off all the walls in the house") I wasn't referring to sex, I had quite a lot to drink and couldn't walk in a straight line if you'd paid me to, hence bouncing off the walls.
Regarding our bodies playing tricks on us, I try very had to echo what my Dr told me "we are not machines/robots, your cycle is a natural thing so try and relax" yeah right....

digitalgirl · 04/05/2010 17:49

BUnder & Aly I too bumped into the last of my M&B group friends to get pg. Turns out she's due the same time I was. I must admit I did bite my lip and have to stifle a full blown wail. Couldn't stop the tears though. She was very good and gave my arm a rub and said soothing things. I think I've given her a big fright though as she's now really worried about her own pregnancy and asked me for the EPDU number.

viv shizer.

hopefully how about you don't count the cycles you've been too busy/too ill/too drunk to swi? Then I bet you're really only on cycle 2. Am beginning to think a 2.5 - 3 year age gap is probably the best thing (for me anyway) as DS was an intensely needy baby.

slimyak · 04/05/2010 17:59

Hi to all, I try to keep up but 10 days away and and not only have the pages totted up but you've moved!
Been busy moving office, catching up with work stuff and enjoying a few family birthdays. Trying not to obsess about the TTC thing.

Anyway I'm lurking when I can and hoping to see more people in the Graduates and anyone new just here for a pit stop with hugs, wine and cake.

I haven't managed to read through everything but I've put myself back in my rightful place.

Urd TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 1 CD46
Redheadgal TTC#1 UCL 28-30 cycle WTF CD41
LucyT66 TTC#1 UCL33-34 cycle 4 CD39
JulesAbs TTC#1 UCL30 cycle 2 CD36
vivcliquot TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 5 CD30
dirtgirl TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 2 CD27
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 3 CD26
Scotchontherocks TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 5 CD23
Gonnabe TTC#1 UCL28 Cycle 2 C20
westyorkshiregirl TTC#1 UCL37 cycle 3 CD20
Magic8ballhastheanswers TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 3 CD16
Mummy3610 TTC#4 UCL 26-30 cycle 2 CD15
Pollyanna TTC#6 UCL27 cycle3 CD12
Curlylox TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 3 CD12
Dorcas11 TTC 1, UCL29, cycle 1, CD12
Moofold TTC#2 UCL~33 cycle3 CD10
slimyak TTC#2 UCL26 cycle 5 CD9
Clareanna TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 3 CD6
LucySnowe TTC#2 UCL 40+ cycle 3 CD 4
Hopefully TTC#2 UCL 28 cycle 6 CD 4
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL26-9 cycle 12 CD3
BUnderthebonnet TTC#2 UCL 28-36 CD??

WTTC
Muser TTC#1 EP 18/02/10 Month 3 of 3 month wait
Cheepz TTC#2 MMC 26/3/10 2nd cycle post ERPC self imposed TTC amnesty
Jollster TTC#2 MMC 26/2/10 couple of cycles wait on acupuncturist advice
ElmMum TTC#2 MC 28/2-17/3/10 UCL 28/29 on cycle 1 of (self-imposed) 2 or 3 cycle wait
Freezing TTC#2 MC 28/3/10 on cycle 1 of 2 or 3 cycle wait
LadyBee TTC#2 ERPC 08/04/10
Digitalgirl TTC#2 MC 11/04/10
NBelle TTC#1 MC 09/04/10
MrsG/PrettyV Enjoying the view and the great company.

GRADUATES
amyboo - baby boy - Matthew
totally - baby girl - Faith
hoops997 BFP 11 July 2009 - baby boy - Benjamin
Memorylapse - Baby girl - Olivia
Stressy BFP 22nd August 2009
becky78 BFP 4th September 2009
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September 2009
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September 2009
Chamois BFP 7th October 2009
Apples BFP 9th November 2009
Meita BFP 10th December 2009
CakeandFineWine BFP 27th December 2009
boodleboot BFP 2nd January 2010
LeeWT BFP 21st January 2010
TFLS BFP 22nd January 2010
Louisesh BFP 22nd January 2010
MrsRigby BFP 27th January 2010
TheKurgan BFP 30th January 2010
effilump BFP 8th February 2010
Sarahlou8 BFP 10th February 2010
samanthab123 BFP 10th February 2010
redandyellowandpinkandgreen BFP 6th March 2010
floweringcurrant BFP 8th March 2010
HappyGirl1 BFP 23rd March 2010
Unbuffy BFP 28th March 2010
Zayja BFP 2nd April 2010
Barrenbrook BFP 6th April 2010
Goodluckbear BFP 10th April 2010
Malteser1981 BFP 11th April 2010
Gilda BFP 19th April 2010
AlbaDeTamble BFP 25th April 2010
sparklyrainbow BFP 25th April 2010
BunnyBaby BFP 27th April 2010
Margie32 BFP 26th April

WestYorkshireGirl · 04/05/2010 18:15

Curly I'm so sorry for misunderstanding your post! I thought you meant you had been having a wild night of passion as you referred to stripping off downstairs

Digitalgirl, Aly, Polly, Cheepz, lucy, littlemiss, ladybee - you have all been really kind in offering words of wisdom. I have taken great comfort from reading your comments and seeing that we are not the only ones who don't find this easy really helps.

Viv Really sorry to hear about RTD, but hope you managed to enjoy some of your break.

Magic How were the Accounts?

Hopefully I also get VERY painful RTD for first 24 hours - very heavy and then it eases (since mc). I went to Drs about it last month and he sent me for blood tests for iron levels which came back OK. I hope it settles soon - my GP said it can take a while for things to settle - quite vague!

Bunder Hope you managed to get through today ok. I used to be a secondary teacher and can't imagine how I would have got through if I had been worrying about being on show. Well done!

Digitalgirl am interested in the cervix checking thing - do you know where I could find out any more?

Hairy How are you feeling?

Dorcas Glad you enjoyed your break.

Magic8ballhastheanswers · 04/05/2010 18:35

digit I am going to have a HOOOJ age gap of at least 4 and a bit years now and thats if I get lucky any time soon.....they way I see it is that dd1 will be at school so I will get tonnes of time with the next one. I over hear so many mums saying how tough it is with 2 under 3s.....and many of my chums with 2 have all said to me if they had their time over they would wait longer. The little ones are really are none the wiser, its just us that worry xxxx

Thanks for asking WGY accounts = YAWN..........

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hairytriangle · 04/05/2010 18:37

Hi Westyorkshiregirl I'm feeling ok. I think I still have some symptoms, I feel really quite tired and lethargic, but glad the bleeding has stopped. Am taking care of myself (and being taken care of).

I kind of feel a little bit in limbo at the moment It's my first MC, so I don't know what to expect or when I will feel 'normal' again, or how my cycle will settle! but only time will tell.

Thanks for asking.

hairytriangle · 04/05/2010 18:37

Vivc I love your sense of humour! Sorry about your bad news (rusty is a great name for it though!)

Curlylox · 04/05/2010 18:49

No worries WYG just didn't want to give the wrong impression or for it to seem I was showing off - that is so NOT me
Been off work today as DD not well, she's had a temperature and it's been a battle to get her to even sip some water. So whilst she's been drifting in and out of a sleep been posting on MN

Moofold · 04/05/2010 19:11

Evening all, very quick post since haven't been on for ages. Sorry for not namechecking everyone. My best mate's Mum died at the weekend, which is so sad and really caught up in that and trying to be there for her.

Nothing happening here, no news whatsoever. Welcome back Hopefully and Tigger. Viv that's shite, I convinced myself in March too after having classic symtoms. Convinced myself about you too! Its so cruel. I am driving myself nuts thinking I won't be pg by my due date on the 3rd July so totally empathise. Hang on in there pal x

Catch up properly in a few days. Hello to all the other girls x

Moofold · 04/05/2010 19:11

Oh - welcome back Slim too

Hopefully · 04/05/2010 19:14

Thanks for the warm welcome back everyone, much appreciated, and cheered me up a good deal

Viv I don't especially think that the doc's will do anything re not conceiving, but really want someone to check out my repair work properly (horrific birth with DS, LOTS of stitches, including in my cervix) and give that the all clear - I don't particularly think there's anything wrong, but peace of mind would be nice. I also figure it will sort of get me on the record as not conceiving, IYKWIM, so that if there's any chance of further investigation, I'm already pestering to be referred.

DG am also trying to look at the positives for 2.5yr or longer age gap. Know what you mean about demanding babies -I remember comparing notes on our million-feed-a-night babies all those months ago.
I really wanted a small age gap, because:

  1. I loathe the newborn stage. Love the baby, obviously, but am not a coper on little sleep, and was generally bored to tears while also being incredibly stressed. Hopefully at least the stress/boredom will be better second time round, if not the sleep deprivation.
  2. DP and I really want to get the 'baby' stage over with asap, so we're not coping with one child going to secondary school while potty training another one (exaggeration, but you know what I mean). Don't know why we feel like that, but we always have.

However, I am making myself feel better about the whole thing by reassuring myself that if we decide to go for DC3 (assuming DC2 ever actually happens ) we can just try our hardest to have a smaller age gap there, so it will all even out. Also, Magic8 is exactly right in that it probably won't make the least bit of difference to our DCs, its only us that spend the weeks and months panicking about it.

Was just thinking, If you'd asked me when I was 22 what I'd be worrying about in five years time, 'how quickly I'll conceive my second child' would never even have appeared on the list in any way. I always intended to wait till I was in my thirties before having children, till I moved in with DP and suddenly decided I wanted children now. Funny how things work out, isn't it?

Hopefully · 04/05/2010 19:17

Oh, and Magic8, my SIL has a four year age gap, and loves it. It took her 2 MCs and over a year of trying to get pregnant, and she says now that it was totally meant to be, she loves that she has all day with her DD while her DS is at school, and he absolutely loves the baby and understands that he's not being pushed out etc. Also he is very emphatically beyond the night waking stage, so she only has to deal with one of them in the night! So there are definitely upsides.

clareanna · 04/05/2010 20:00

Magic digi & Hopefully my Ds is three in two weeks time, and I've also been sad about the age gap issue. I wanted to start ttc a year earlier than we did, so have done my fair share of kicking myself for that decision. Have decided there is no point going down that line of thinking/torture anymore - what will be will be (in the words of the great Doris Day )

viv total crapbags - was sure it was your month - arse.
Glad you enjoyed baltimore though x

hairy are you taking any iron tablets? I was totally knackered after my MMC and they have definitely helped me get my enegy back. Can also recommend red wine, chocolate and steak as good sources too...

clareanna · 04/05/2010 20:02

enegy? sounds like a new sports drink!

hairytriangle · 04/05/2010 21:06

ooh, thanks clareanna I have some floradix here somewhere I will take some.

I'm eating super healthy stuff - mixed bean salad, lots of nuts and pulses, and am making quorn 'meatballs' and pasta later plus lots of fruit and dairy, to keep my reserves up.

littlemiss72 · 04/05/2010 21:47

Oh ViV F*ckit.! Always good to see you back though hunni, nice to hear you had a good time. Sorry for the swear word.. it just came out Nothing I say is going to make you feel better right now, when your feeling stronger get down the docs and tell them you want answers.

I'm currently starving my body of all food.. DP annouced earlier today he's booked us a nice holiday to Sharm El Shiekh, all very nice but I'm not ready to bear this odd shape body in just over a weeks time! I'm starting to think he's won the lottery and hasn't told me Still surrounded by boxes mind! lol

No news on the job.. playing the waiting game, as flippin always.

I'll update the list *ViV, love to all.. on my third glass woohoo!

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