Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part2)

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Nice clean thread for us - may there be many a BFP on here

Hopefully -hoping that on this occasion life doesn't play out like in the movies, although staying with the lunatic boss doesn't sound great either.

MrsPV - laughing at your 'judgy pants' - think I have some of those sometimes.

Hairy sorry to hear that your ongoing saga continues. Hope that your levels keep falling and that you're back TTC really soon.

emptyshell and sarahmia sorry you're here, but welcome. I'm quite new too so not great at the abbreviations either.

I'm still waiting for RTD - really is getting beyond a joke now. I have skin like a teenager (ie spotty- not youthful!) and am fed up with being more grumpy than usual. I'm ready to move on even if my body isn't so really is time it caught up!

Afternoon all x

Emptyshell and sarahmia - I too am sorry that you're here but am glad you've found us.

To add to PrettyV's dictionary corner, if you want to add yourselves to our lovely list of hope, then we use the following:

Name / TTC #number of child you're trying for / Usual Cycle Length / Day of Cycle

So sarahmia, for example, I'm guessing you're on Day 22?

PrettyV - If the Juliet and Sawyer moment didn't make your face go all snotty, then I'm afraid you have no soul.

slimyak - good to see you honey and glad you're doing well.

hopefully - That sounds totally pants re. your husband. I was at risk of redundancy a couple of years ago, so know how stressful it can be. I'll keep everything crossed that it works out for you both.

hairy - what news, honey? Hope things are settling down and you can avoid the methroxate.

Anyway - hi to everyone else. 8dpo here and I'm starting to get nervous about the forthcoming days of doom.

xxx

emptyshell so very sorry to hear your sad story, but you are in the right place for lots of support and hopefully some giggles to lighten the darkness. Welcome!

You sound like a ballsy lady - and I agree with what you say about grabbing every chance, I'm in the same boat!

sarahmia sorry to hear about your troubles too, again, this is the right place, the ladies here are wonderful and inspiring and supportive and funny. Welcome to you!

Viv well I saw the methotrexate off (after arguing with one (very young and green and not very nice) doctor and one consultant, I persuaded them to do one more blood test tomorrow, then I will take it if HCG is still the same or higher. If it's not then I'll have to fight another battle to persuade them it is falling and I want to do things naturally.

They now say it's a 'pregnancy of unknown origin'.

I am still bleeding like mad, more than a usual period and longer (day six of heavy bleeding today - I usually get three of heavy, four of light).

But in myself I feel a whole load better - haven't needed any co-codamol since half nine this morning, and the 'been kicked in the belly' feeling is definately easing!

At least I get to be ill sitting in the sunshine, huh?

As soon as this is sorted I will be back on Zita West tablets, organic milk, etc etc, and I have found a clinic that does private HSG (tube X ray) so I'm going to book in next cycle - as I haven't been trying for a year yet NHS won't offer it. I've had hormone and ovulation tests which the docs say are normal and healthy so HSG would be next thing.

slimyak having fought off methotrexate today, sending good vibes for you asserting your rights with the docs to get what you want, need and deserve!
x

Thanks for the kind words everyone, much appreciated! Dp and I aren't too stressed about it, as there's a reasonable chance it won't be him, and if it is we've (thank heavens) got enough in the bank for 6 weeks or so before we seriously need to panic. I can also earn more if DP's here full time (am self employed, only work 2 days a week while DS at childminder), so we can eke out what money we have for a bit longer if necessary. All a bit scary though!

I am (and I apologise for TMI) horribly constipated. This has happened in both previous PGs before RTD was due, but have also had diet of doom recently (cake covers all the food groups, right?) due to too much tea with friends, so it could just be that. Desperate symptom spotting, me? never

Hairy well done on fighting off the methopoison, fingers crossed that your numbers are down tomorrow.

moo know what you mean about the CBFM and all the highs! I think it's because we have long cycles, it takes a while to get to know them. I've had 3 less high days this month that I did last month (which is a relief!) We've managed it every 2-3 days and one peak day so fingers crossed. LoL at the botched attempt - know EXACTLY what you mean!

hairy well done for telling those young upstart-look-like-they've-just-done-gcses doctors how you want to be treated. Sincerely hope your levels go down. Unknown origin sounds very sci-fi

pretty neil patrick harris made a guest appearance in Glee which made me think of you - [girlish blush]
love your judging pants too. [now I just sound stalkerish don't I?)

hopefully my DH was made redundant in Jan, a week after my MMC. He's been on a temporary contract and last week finally left for good. He is mainly doing DIY at the moment in classic denial mode. We are continuing to TTC as who knows what will happen in a month's time, let alone 9 months, and there's nothing like a deadline to get yourself into gear I find!! It's hugely stressful and worrying so fingers crossed he is OK. ALso being blessed with the english rose complexion me and my DS have been mainly found muttering and sweating under trees over the last few days too!

ladybee def good to know your body is behaving itself again!! hurrah for well behaved ovaries!

digi and viv good luck on the TWW

mrsGMack loving the positive attitude - you've very strong.

emptyshell & Sarahmia welcome to the thread - so sorry you've found yourselves here
sarah it sounds liek you've hada truly aful time - I hope we na be here to give you all the support you both need. THis thread and these ladies have been an absolute lifesaver for me.

magic, freezing slimyak - big waves!

Right I'm orf - got to put my nibbles out for book club. I'm hosting tonight!
In other news - am feeling decidely queasy. Apparently nausea can be a symptom of ovulation (interesting factoid) so that has at least stopped me thinking DH has super sperm and I'm obviously preggers with triplets....

Good evening ladies. Welcome Sarahmia and Emptyshell, so sorry to hear your stories. Hope you find this thread useful for some comfort and light relief when you need it.

Thanks Dorcas for reminding me about your lack of symptoms - I guess your right about it not being over yet. The only bother with that is that I am catching Hopefully's compulsion to go POAS. You see, there are 2 wee sticks next door and RTD due on Thursday, so despite not feeling the slightest bit upduffed I might as well use one tomorrow...

Ladybee and Digi I think you are right about not forcing yourself into SWI. Clare I read my CBFM manual and it said it would reduce the number of highs when it got to know you, which is why we went for it this time early doors and were spent by the time the feckin peaks arrived!

MrsPretty i was enraged at the end of lost too - but found myself greeting twice nonetheless, at the baby related scenes funnily enough.

I'm following your logic Hopefully but still hoping your DH gets to keep his job and that you both get your sticky bean. The irony of spending the majority of your adult life trying NOT to get pregnant indeed!!

Good tidings to all you other gals x

slimyak congratulations to you too, sorry I forgot to say that before . I am also very nervous and trying to keep myself distracted with other things. (Although I did go and POAS before, just for fun).

Speaking of which Moofold, step away from the weesticks! I know I am not one to talk as I went a little bit mental last week and tested four days before RTD was due (with disastrous consequences), but try and hold out for Thursday.
sarahmia and emptyshell, I'm so sorry for what you've been through, welcome here, as others have said it is a good place to hang out for a while when going through difficult times.
Hope everyone else is okay, good luck all those on their 2WW, hope it goes over quickly and ends well, will keep checking in to see those BFPs and also because I'm too scared to go over to the pregnancy thread right now.

hurrrah - i managed to do absolutely no actual work in the office today - triumph - that'll learn the bastards for making me work full notice thus foiling my chances to start ttc again until august!

newbs so sorry you have to be here but its not so bad once you get used to it - we are a total bunch of losers and fanatics

allothers y'all post too much, by the time i have caught up its time to put DS in bed - note to self when not working in the office must try and log on to mn and post - cheaper than all the internet shopping too!

hairy special mention for all the crap you are dealing with - do what feels right to you, my consultant basically said with respect to miscarriages and the like they actually have no fucking idea what causes most of the stuff that happens just plug you full of drugs and hormones and hope for the best

right must stop being slovenly lazy mother and attend to lone child! laters

I heart you too, we may as well be open and honest bout it.
I heart lots of peeps on here
Y'all lubbberley as 8's puts it.

Ok,ok I did get slighty choked up in bits of Lost.
I must confess I flicked the V's and mumbled bad words at the scan bit

Just to defend my soul, flicking through movies before and the last 15 mins of Marley And Me was on.
MrG went upstairs for 30 seconds and when he came back into the Living Room I was frantically wiping tears away.
He pissed himself laughing at my very snotty face.
See I cry, I cry alot, over Owen Wilsons acting.

Had a contract drawn up re Judgy Pants.

*Judgy Pants will be available on a rotation basis allowing for 27 days annual leave excluding Bank Holidays.
*Whoever has them last must make sure they are clean&tide for the next rantee.
*When wearing Judgy Pants all opinions must be shared with the rest of the fred.
*Judgy Pants are not flame retardant so should only be worn for a short time.
*Judgy Pants may be worn on the head.

clareanna PMSL and

and

Cheepz PMSL. yes, it certainly feels like they have no fucking idea what has been going on - I suppose they have been honest and caring generally about it - the nurses are lovely and I'm going to buy them a big box of choccies.

I just really resent turning up today after telling them yesterday I was reluctant to take metho-screw-up-your-body-for-three-months to be told 'So, we are giving you methoetcetc today' by a twelve year old! LOL.

at least they listened in the end and the Registrar I saw said 'we shouldn't push you if you feel uncomfortable, and I'm sorry but it will mean you will have to have yet another blood test!' so win for me in at least this battle if not the war.

Have I got the judgeypants on??? !!! LOL

Ooh I meant to ask. So far I've poas for ovulation, but resorted to sign spotting (I get zits on one side of face and egg white mucus) (I have also had tests to show I do ovulate). But I wonder about the temperature taking thing? Can anyone give me a brief insight into how it works and whether it's worth it?

Hopefully redundancy is a real bummer, but hopefuly it won't happen - it's happened to me twice and I was lucky to bounce back, but it's horrid when going through it. so big hugs to you.
x

Blimey people - STOP TALKING SO MUCH! I'm a bit slow and I can't keep up. MUST try harder...

Right in no particular order....

yay to the BFPs (Slim and Dorcas, have I missed any others...?) - May STILL looking a bit light though...?

Hopefully - BLESS your DS, what a sweetie. It's been TOO hot for little people and furry things. I pity them. And just to echo about redundancy, it's only brought me good things. Large wads of cash and my gorgeous DS, who is 2 today.

Empty - so pleased you've come over from that thread - was v worried about you. It's a bit crazy here, but think you'll fit right in

Sarahmia welcome - what a tough time you've had. Sorry you're here too.

PV - you're still a loon then. That's reassuring .

Cheepzy - good to see you are doing the right thing on your notice - topbanana.

Right...
I am back in light training. Ready to go back on the list. May TTC commence. Last year it was DS 1st birthday that commenced the "shall we do that again then?" chat. And we did and got pg first month. So am hoping it's all just one year later, and it's all going to work out fine this time.

Will scroll back and see if i can find a list to add meself.

Hi to everyone - hope wherever you are physically and emotionally, you're doing ok.

Off to munch some G&B Butterscotch.

Tarra all x

Right have done CD for tomorrow (Weds), but have NOT added anyone else's details on news.

Wednesday's List

JulesAbs TTC#1 UCL30 cycle 2 CD58
dirtgirl TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 2 CD49
Scotchontherocks TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 5 CD45
Gonnabe TTC#1 UCL28 Cycle 2 C42
Pollyanna TTC#6 UCL27 cycle3 CD34
Curlylox TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 3 CD34
Dorcas11 TTC 1, UCL29, cycle 1, CD34
Moofold TTC#2 UCL~33 cycle3 CD32
slimyak TTC#2 UCL26 cycle 5 CD31
Clareanna TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 3 CD28
LucySnowe TTC#2 UCL 40+ cycle 3 CD26
Hopefully TTC#2 UCL 28 cycle 6 CD26
vivcliquot TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 6 CD25
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL26-9 cycle 12 CD25
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 4 CD21
LadyBee TTC#2 UCL27 cycle 1 CD15
Urd TTC#3 UCL28 CYCLE 2 CD15
Mummy3610 TTC#4 UCL 26-30 cycle 3 CD12
LAF77 TTC #1, UCL28, Cycle 2 CD12
Magic8ballhastheanswers TTC#3 UCL31 cycle 4 CD8
BUnderthebonnet TTC#2 UCL 28-36, Cycle 2, CD7
Muser TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL 28, CD4
Jollster TTC#2, Cycle 1 (partIII), UCL 26 CD3

WTTC
Cheepz TTC#2 MMC 26/3/10 2nd cycle post ERPC self imposed TTC amnesty
ElmMum TTC#2 MC 28/2-17/3/10 UCL 28/29 on cycle 1 of (self-imposed) 2 or 3 cycle wait
Freezing TTC#2 MC 28/3/10 on cycle 2 of 2 cycle wait
Digitalgirl TTC#2 MC 11/04/10
NBelle TTC#1 MC 09/04/10
MrsG/PrettyV Enjoying the view and the great company.
Barrenbrook TTC#1 MMC 12/05/10

GRADUATES
amyboo - baby boy - Matthew
totally - baby girl - Faith
hoops997 - baby boy - Benjamin
Memorylapse - Baby girl - Olivia
Stressy BFP 22nd August 2009
becky78 BFP 4th September 2009
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September 2009
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September 2009
Chamois BFP 7th October 2009
Apples BFP 9th November 2009
Meita BFP 10th December 2009
CakeandFineWine BFP 27th December 2009
boodleboot BFP 2nd January 2010
LeeWT BFP 21st January 2010
TFLS BFP 22nd January 2010
Louisesh BFP 22nd January 2010
MrsRigby BFP 27th January 2010
TheKurgan BFP 30th January 2010
effilump BFP 8th February 2010
Sarahlou8 BFP 10th February 2010
samanthab123 BFP 10th February 2010
redandyellowandpinkandgreen BFP 6th March 2010
floweringcurrant BFP 8th March 2010
HappyGirl1 BFP 23rd March 2010
Unbuffy BFP 28th March 2010
Zayja BFP 2nd April 2010
Goodluckbear BFP 10th April 2010
Malteser1981 BFP 11th April 2010
Gilda BFP 19th April 2010
AlbaDeTamble BFP 25th April 2010
sparklyrainbow BFP 25th April 2010
BunnyBaby BFP 27th April 2010
Margie32 BFP 26th April
LucyT66 BFP 30th April
Redheadgal BFP 10th May
Westyorkshiregirl BFP 19 May

details OR news... eejit

Yay jollster! We are nearly CD buddies.

Was there ever any doubt Jolls?

Forgot to say well done on you doing diddly squat in "work" Cheepzter
That'll bleedin' learn them.

Good on ya HairyTrooper you tell 'em.
Judgy Pants look good on you missus.

My Puds has resorted to trying to remove as much fur as possible to keep cool.
He's black and usually has a coat you could make a hat out of, but he goes through phases of self harming
He's currently sporting an attractive bald patch on his back.

Hairy I temp and it's fine if you have a regular wake up time. Bit of a bugger if you like a lie in though....

It's useful for confirming whether ovulation has happened (your temp goes up after you ovulate, so it's useless for predicting when to have sex) and therefore getting to know your cycle, length of luteal phase etc. It also gives me something to obsess over do during the 2WW. My temp was my first real pg sign last time - it shot up at 12dpo.

I combine temping with peeing on ov sticks and monitoring mucus (not brave enough for cervical postition) and I usually have a pretty clear idea of what's gone on. I like plotting my temp everyday on fertilityfriend and examining my charts and statistics. Helps me fend off peeing on pg tests...

thank you BUnder very useful! I'm not brave enough for cervical position either (I also have a tilted cervix so dunno if that causes a problem). God I am so weird

Wanders off to ebay to find a thermometer

Goodnight everyone, and thank you all - I would have gone nuts if it wasn't for you all over the last few weeks!

Jollster - go you and enjoy your TTC, hope I can join you (not literally , but you know what I mean LOL!) in a couple of weeks

Oh god, my peak glee was a bit premature - yes, fine, my body appears to have got its shit together...however it takes two to tango and we've just had the most disastrous couple of days. Two of the dreaded "botched attempts". Sigh.
Ok, getting rid of all euphemisms, yesterday morning he did manage to climax after losing interest half-way through, but came outside me after sort-of slipping out. This morning he says he just got distracted and it all went pear-shaped. I'm pretty sure only teenagers having fumbles in their single-beds get pregnant from withdrawal, not those who actually want to, so not much hope this month - unless we're lucky with the long-lived sperm.
I was pretty damn frustrated, in all senses, so sulked at first but managed to have a more sensible chat later. I've suggested he have a think about if there's anything I can do or stop doing that would help - hide the monitor, or whatever. I really hope that he finds a way through this. Has anyone got any suggestions?
Sorry for all the detail, just need to get it out and can't talk about this with RL friends obviously

Hubby goes through this a lot (it's the main reason I've held off buying one of those monitors)... generally I need to withold information like where I am on my cycle from him and just bonk every 2 days so he has no clue what's going on - or he gets performance anxiety and I have to resort to middle of the night wake-him-up-from sleep ambushing.

Quite a lot of the time we have to do things in installments so to speak as he loses focus several times - it's a pain in the rear having to keep a wonderfully calm and serene face when you just want to chuck a strop and insult the offending appendage.

Docs have been naff-all use on it. Just mutter that it's stress... well yeah after three years of crap bonking and no luck, followed by a miscarriage and me falling apart completely emotionally... yes we are stressed.

regarding SWI'ing, I was advised NOT to time it around ovulation - as it causes so much stress that it's counter productive, and to try and just have fun. I know that is easier said than done, but I found it useful, and the time I conceived was at a time we had been having less sex than usual and had abandoned thinking about ovulation!

ladybee oh dear. Your poor DH (and poor you!), perhaps you need a non-peak weekend/night away together to rekindle the romance for romancing sake. Or make sex about sex again, not about baby-making. DH got given a 'Daily Sex' book by his hilarious work colleagues before he went off to get married. It's actually quite good for spicing things up.

I completely understand how frustrating it can be though. We co-sleep with DS, so if DH is adamant on having a 'night-off', he'll make sure he's asleep tucked up in bed next to DS before I've even finished brushing my teeth. Funny how the tables are turned during ttc.

Quick hug for newbies empty and sarah. This thread has been enormously supportive for a lot of us, hopefully you'll find it to be the same for you.

hairy if you're serious about temping then there's a great book called 'Taking Charge of Your Fertility' by Toni Weschler which details how to read your charts and combine it with charting CM. I got it when ttc#1 and it was v useful. Still refer to it occasionally now for non-temp related things.

If your cycles are regular I'd only do it for 2-3 cycles max to find out when you ovulate, but then probably wouldn't be worth doing it for longer as some women find taking their temp first thing in the morning is a bit of a depressing reminder that they are not pregnant. However, if you're irregular (like me) then it's a great way of taking that 'have I or haven't I ovulated' anxiety away.