Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part2)

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Nice clean thread for us - may there be many a BFP on here

Congratulations dorcas and slim here's to two very sticky beans x

Excellent - another run of BFPs, congrats dorcas & Slim, I'm v happy for you both

oh Hairy you really are having the most shite time at the moment.
I think you should fight it out to avoid the methotrexate for bit longer as long as you're not bleeding too much, and you feel okay physically. But it sounds like your body is beginning to struggle after all you've gone through. At the very least I'd push to speak directly with the consultant and explain all your concerns. It's the lack of confidence in talking to everyone but the consultant that makes it so much harder in my opinion.

Cheepz full marks to the non-working work effort you're putting in. Keep it up

Muser yay for joining the list.

Magic8s you sound very positive about your fundraiser, I'm so glad it went well.

CONGRATS to Slim and Dorcas - is that 4 of us in less than a week? It's a revolution......

Clare thanks for asking how I'm feeling. Not too bad - just mad hungry and much, much more tired than before. Was up at 6am and off to Birmingham today and back about 7.45pm and I feel like a zombie. There wasn't much lunch and I found it tricky in the afternoon - just really sick. Still, my boss (who has a DS and also had a mc) says that strong symptoms are a good thing.

Hairy I'm sorry but I have no advice about the M thingy stuff as haven't had to have it, although I always try to weigh up the options when it comes to the NHS. In my experience, things they say are necessary, sometimes aren't and are just the next thing to try when they don't know what's wrong. If you can handle the bleeding, maybe wait it out a bit more unless you are in real pain? Talk to your DH/DP about it and make an informed choice. I really hope things settle for you soon.

Magic Great news about the fundraiser and MrsP what a lovely evening. Our menfolk have their moments don't they (in between leaving dirty washing on the floor and dirty pots about the house)....

hopefully You WILL be pg - everyone will in time.

Big wave

I think if I were you I would want a clear explanation of WHY they want to give you methotrexate right now. And decide based on that.

Thank you everyone for your lovely messages. I'm quite scared but trying not to stress, just going to take it a day at a time.
hairy I haven't got any advice as I don't really know much about it but sorry to hear you are not being given much information by the doctors. It must be a maddening situation to be in and I think you are coping amazingly. You're entitled to have a rant! Good to hear that your HCG levels are dropping though.
Magic8 great news about your fundraiser, it sounds like a lovely positive thing to have done.
4 BFPs in a week is great- lets hope there's a few more by the end of the week x x x

Evening, its been so lovely all weekend I haven't checked in much but now I see there is big news on the BFP front - well done girls!! Hope you can relax and enjoy as much as possible. Look after yourselves x

Clare and Cheepz I am actually hacked off with my CBFM. It gave me 6 highs again before my 2 peaks, by which point we were sick to the back teeth of SWI (even DH!), forced ourselves regardless resulting in a botched attempt IYKWIM. Glad you got one in Clare - full marks for persistence!

8s I'm delighted Saturday went so well. I commented on your post on Facebook but it didn't post for some reason. Its amazing you have been so positive and did something so constructive.

My RTD should be appearing next few days and I am completely symptomless. Saying that, I'm not pre-menstrual either so no idea what's going on. Hopefully I'm like you, losing patience that 3 months of doing everything at the right time has not got that BFP. I'm also about to miss my stupid self-imposed deadline of being pregnant by my due date. I really thought 6 months down the line I would be pregnant again. Why do we do this to ourselves when we have no control over it!! We'll get there, chin up pal x

Hairy no idea what on earth could be going on. Really feel for you going through all this. Please let it end soon! WYG glad to hear you are sick, in a nice way!

Anyhow, Viv I'm away to watch the last Lost on my sky telly!

Moofold I had zero symptoms as well, apart from the odd twinge down there and also no PMT symptoms either, till the day I was due when my boobs started to act very pregnant-ish. Not sure if that helps, sorry if it doesn't but I was so convinced that I couldn't be as I didn't feel pregnant at all, so there is always hope.

Mrspretty are you watching Glee? Good times...

ooh ooh don't tell me about lost lalalalalalala we're a couple of episodes behind and haven't seen the finals yet.

Lookie!! I'm on day 13 AND I got a peak on my CBFM this morning...I feel so chuffed with my little ovary that did , even if we're not lucky this month I'm just quite pleased that my cycle seems to be on track.

clareana I read your 'terrible SWI' post as 'the kind where your DH bursts into tears' and thought, jeepers, that IS bad...but actually what you wrote is pretty much on a par. I hope it was worth it.

Wow Dorcas wooohooo!!! congratulations m'dear. Am v happy for you.

Slimyak! you too!!! that's fantastic, ooh stay calm, stay brave.

Hairytriangle I can't recommend anything, but I think if it were me, I'd want to wait another day and get another test to see whether levels really are dropping. But the amount of bleeding you're experiencing is worrying.

Magic8 well done! That's an amazing amount of money and will make a difference I'm sure. What a great tribute.

Moo, I hope my comments above don't make you want to throw your computer (or at least your CBFM) across the room. I can just imagine how annoying a long string of highs could be - and how depressing a failed attempt at SWI is I do think it's really important not to be a slave to it, we've already agreed that even if I come in from the bathroom doing the 'aruuga aruuuga' siren for a peak, if either of us don't feel up to it, then that's the way it is and there should be no recrimination (silent muttering is acceptable).

Moofold thanks for the words of encouragement/reassurance. it's just so frustrating - we spend our teenage years determinedly not fallling pregnant, and believing that one rash moment would have us popping babies out left right and centre, and it turns out that it's actually bloody hard to get pregnant and stay that way!

I'm on CD25 now, and contemplating POAS tomorrow, just for the sake of it. no PMT, but absolutely no pregnancy symptoms either. I very definitely felt pregnant by now in both previous pregnancies, but while there's no RTD, there's hope, right?

Poor DS not coping with the heat of past couple of days. I went to pick him up from the childminder yesterday and he was sat in her playhouse with his little old man sunhat on, bright red (from heat, not sunburn, honest!) and sweating freely. He's really chubby and very fair, so not exactly designed for tropical temps! He had lots of fun watering himself instead of the vegetables when we got home though.

Oh, and Hairy I'd be inclined to push for at least one more blood test to see if levels are still falling, and if they are then just one more, and so on. If you're feeling OK and think you can get through it naturally, I'd definitely be inclined to do so. It's not like you can't have the methowhatsit at a later date if levels stop falling, right?

Hairy what are they worried will happen if you don't have the methibob? Do they think it could go molar? And other than unpleasant side effects that muser mentioned what does it mean for ttc if you do take it?

moof sympathies on the double ovulation attempt. I don't have a cbfm but have been charting all other signs and I definitely nearly ovulated about 12 days ago. Now it seems I ovulated yesterday - but as with ladybee neither of us were up to it so we had the night off. Have been quite regular up until yesterday though so hoping there were enough swimmers waiting for the egg.

ladybee hooray for your peak! I would be over the moon to ovulate on day 14.

So hopefully that's it. 1dpo. Cervix closed for business. Would really like that to be it for this cycle now. Please. At this rate rtd is due two months after the mc started.

Anyway, back to work. My editor thinks I'm being anti-social playing with my phone in edit.

Blimey, I'm going to have to cheat and do the two screen thang to namecheck.

Hairy ffs
Really feel for you having to go through all this.
I'd wait too but I'd need answers bout the bleeding.
Is it still bad?

Muser not sure if I've said but, yay!

Dorcas and Slim whoooo-hoooo!
Fantastic news!

8's well done you, amazing result.

Clareanna I'm not watching Glee but I did start filling the Sky+ with episodes.
Much to MrGs' annoyance
Got loads of crap to catch up on and if I can tear myself away from you lot I may make a start.
Lost is on the to do list today

Hopefully sorry you're feeling low, I'm with you on the torturing your self with time lines.
I bought a huge box of washing powder a few months ago and I'd made a wager with myself I'd be updiffed by the time it ran out

I've made another wager that when we go away in Sept I will be.

Quick moan, and I know I sound horrible and bitter and twisted but hey ho.
Girl I used to work with has just announced she won't be working Christmas as she pregnant.
Apart from that being the first thing she tells everyone, she is also making it public knowledge she's got PG to keep her dick of a gobbo fella.
She lives at home and as her Mum is soft lovely, she will bring it up babysit.
This girl once said to me she wears a watch "Cos it makes her look intelligent"

Rant over, Judgy pants removed, as you were.

I'm on the naughty step from Sheffield
For those of you who are not familiar with my peeing antics,I had to send weekly samples off to measure HCG levels.
I got the all clear, spoke to a nurse and thought that was the end of that.
Got a shouty letter saying that they'd not received any offerings in a while.

Gave them a ring before and the peeing must commence once more, till June.
No blardy point if you ask me.

Hi Everyone

Exciting times for all the BFPs

Sorry hairy you're having such a trying time, doesn't make it easy does it?

I had my follow-up transvaginal scan this morning (back at work groan)

No obvious retained products, just some blood in the cavity; which means no D&C or drugs . Both my ovaries and uterus normal.

I will try to be patient and wait for normal services to be restored. I've got an pre-conconception acupuncture session booked tomorrow. Onwards and upwards...

quick update (sorry not to name check) - persuaded them to do one more HCG monitor tomorrow, and decided if it stays the same or goes up I'll have the methatrexate - long story but it took a lot of persuasion!

They've said for the first time today that it's a 'pregnancy of unknown origin' - and the consultant I spoke to still didnt seem to know that I'm still bleeding (heavily again today) which is very frustrating as she was dishing out advice about taking strong drugs!

Hopefully isnt' it just odd when you start ttc - flipping all the not trying for all those years on it's head - that was a really strange feeling for me!

It was around about sixteen years ago I realised I wanted kids, but due to the relationship I was in, It was never going to happen, so I feel blessed now that I am in a really fantastic relationship with a man who wants them as much as I do - even more reason not to take a drug that will delay the process for a further three months! (three months appears to be a drop in the water to the consultants, but they don't know what I've been through, so they can flipping well keep their opinions to themselves!!)

Hairy x

digitalgirl it means three months of not TTC, which I really don't want, and it means, after detoxing my body in preparation for conception - via a really healthy diet - I would be putting something really strong back in They haven't said what could happen if I don't take it, but just that I 'need' to take it to get rid of whatever is lurking.

MrsPV I like your watch TV on your to do list

PMSL at the girl at work who wears a watch to look intelligent. You have every right to be judgy pants, in fact I'll put my judgy pants on too

Hopefully please step away from the pissing stick, just for a few more days at least. It's so hard but try not to read anything into the lack of pregnancy symptoms - FWIW I've had different levels of symptoms for each of the 3 times I was pregnant ranging from none whatsoever to full on puking so I'm beginning to believe what a MW said to me that every pregnancy really is different.

MrsGMack glad the scan results meant no more interventions. This is a good place to be whilst waiting

Right best get back to my even longer to do list

hola chicas,

just a quickie as much to do today before I go off to hosp tomorrow early doors........I have to be up and have brekkie at fucking ridiculous o clock 5am. DD1 is off to Nannymagic and has been prepped that it is non baby related bless her cottons.

Hopefully chill and hang fire for just another day or 2! Freezing is right.

Christ on a bike Hairy you are having a time of it, I really do things start to settle down soon. Each day is a step closer and well done for your getting them to agree to wait. Glad you can come here for respite though

MrsGMack glad all well and good luck with your needles tomorrow.

Happy peak day Ladybee !

Pretty my sky + box is full of stuff I am never going to get time to watch especially now me and DH I have decided screw it not having a baby anytime soon so bollocks lets re do the kitchen.......I love a to do list and work better under pressure!

Fingers crossed this is your month digit and Moof they are all different hun and it's not over until it's over.......

Gonna have to scram sorry if I have missed you off will try and nip back in later xx

Can I come in here? I'm the messed up bird from the miscarriage forum.

Tried for three years to get pregnant - nothing. BMI too high for any NHS help, despite shifting three stones, still too long a road to go along there.

Got a positive on six pregnancy tests finally, had three glorious days.. well two, and a crampy one (you can tell where this is going), before I took another test on a hunch and it was negative... started bleeding later that day.

That was one week, two days ago now. Bleeding's stopped and we're desperately trying again as I need that focus to stay sane basically. Haven't had a scan - didn't seem any point, didn't want to go down the hospital and see pregnant women so I refused, but have to go back to the doctors tonight for a pointless checkup (last time she terrified me about ectopics and infections and that I'd need surgery) - whatever she says, I'm not waiting on my periods returning before trying again, if there's any surge in fertility post MC - I need to grab any chance I have. Hard having to stab away with a blunt sausage in the dark to know when to try though.

I know this doctor's going to do the whole "oh you need to stop TTCing and take these anti-depressants and grieve" thing - and for once, I'm completely ignoring medical advice on this one if she does. I need that focus, that hope of things perhaps changing - to carry on.

Surely our luck has to change at some point

hi all!

can i join??

I had a stillbirth about 7 weeks ago - wow it seems longer! i was 6 months and the baby had triploidy. We had known about it since 15 weeks. and I have been TTC since. I have only had one period but i think i may have had an early miscarriage before last month as had very very faint line on test then started bleeding next day. so not sure what that was about. no pain tho.

anyway... I have no idea about all the terms you guys use on here... but would like to hop on board. I got my AF 3 weeks ago yestersay, have no idea when i ovulated, but should be due again in 6 days or so...
hate the waiting game.
i feel like i could be but i am a big symptom imaginer.
could someone explain all the terms you use on your list so i can add myself?

Thanks
and hii!

Hello everybody Peeps.

MrsMack good to hear the scan was normal.
As Freezing said we're good to hang about with for a bit.

EmptyShell sorry to hear of your loss.
Was this your first MC?
Your obviously very determined and your amongst many laydees that have been/are in the same place as you right now.
There's lots of good advice and support here.
Your luck will change, you've made a massive change by losing 3 stone.
Well done.

Freezing re reading that makes me look like a right lazy cahhh.
I do rarely manage to do other things on my day off.
Re Girl in work.
I know.
AND THESE PEOPLE JUST REPRODUCE!!
Arrrrggghhhhhh!

8theball bummer bout early rise.
I be thinking of you tomorrow (not at 5am though)

For all those on the TWWofmenkulness I have everything crossed.
Those who are SWI wot you doin on your pooter?
Get thee to bed pronto.

In other news

Watched Lost sorry Viv but that was pants of the highest order.
Just waited for Jack to wake up in a shower
I didn't cry. Did say aaaahhhh a bit
I did shout at the telly a bit when things got hairy.
Not as loud as I did at the end though when I think next door heard me shout
"Is that IT??!!!"

I would never of guessed that internal affairs were in on it all the time

Did anyone watch Ashes to Ashes?
That was a good ending!

Emptyshell and sarahmia I'm so sorry that you've both found yourselves here, but welcome - you're in the right place for lots of support and occasional weeping/manic laughter.

Eek, have just had whopping bombshell - DP has come home and told me that he and two other colleagues are waiting to find out which one of them will be made redundant - apparently they need to lose one of them, and he'll hopefully know by friday whether it's him. Logically it shouldn't be as he is the most qualified and has the most work on, but who knows? His boss is a lunatic, which doesn't help. Surely if he becomes redundant I'll be pregnant? That's how it happens in the movies!

Sarahmia I am so sorry.
I really don't know what to say.
You've found a good place here with us and you can share as much as you need.

I'll try and explain a few terms although I make up my own alot

RTD = Red tide of doom. (AF)
SWI = Shagging with intent (naughty bidness)
TWW = Two week wait. (after SWI and before RTD)
OV = ovulation
DPO = Days past OV
TTC = Trying to conceive
Ermmmm...

If there's anything else you're not sure off shout.
Welcome and we hope your stay is a short one x

Hopefully forgot to say before, shirley the best way to get updiffed is to plan your wedding and find your ideal dress.
(Also popular in d'movies)

Ohh I did love the Ashes to Ashes ending. I don't know what I'll do without my weekly fix of Gene Geneie.

Anyway, just a quick one

pretty keep those judy pants, clean fresh and passing round. I like a go on them every now and again. I think I might be getting to the old lady point of needing to stuff them in my mouth so I don't tut at people.

Dorcas - congrats I shall think sticky for you too.

I haven't had any real symptoms as yet but never have in previous pregnancies. Last time were the strongest and that didn't end well at 12 weeks, but when I had my DD I was pretty symptom free for 8 weeks and that was full term happy healthy one, who now causes alot more symptoms good and bad

Hairy your frustration is understandable. I sometimes feel the who system is based on the lowest common denominator of both patient knowledge and interest. Sometimes people seem genuinely shocked and put out that you take an interest about what goes on with your own body. Keep chipping away.

Ladybee thanks for the congrats and I agree with you. The reason I went AWOL was because I wanted to just do some sex for the sake of it with my lovely DH and move away from the SWI. It was too much pressure for both of us. Seems to have worked this time.

Off to the Dr on Friday to get recommendation for baby asprin and hoping for early scan support, so fingers crossed I can get what I want. So far the 3 mC don't count as I have DD, but as last MC was M and showed on 12 week scan. I think I'll go mad if I have to wait another 2 months before getting any reassurance.

Right best get on with other RL stuff. Thanks to all for your quiet congrats, I'm still going for scaredy pants quiet.

Sorry for all things writing related I've had a long crazy day and I can only just remember how to spell my own name.

I shall lurk and return, in my wibbly wobbly world