Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part2)

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Nice clean thread for us - may there be many a BFP on here

and thank you all for your good wishes and for thinking of me. I had a little wobble and cry on Fri night, but am fine, was just a mixture of very tired and cold!

LAF, how are you doing today now that your birthday is gone? I do think these milestones are really hard, you just have to keep on keeping on.

HairyTriangle, are you feeling at all optimistic about this or are you trying to keep a lid on that and just going from appointment to appointment. This must be soooo draining on you, I REALLY hope that the appointments in the coming week give you bit more clarity.

BUnder, I'd do a test just before the wedding, I tend not to drink in the 2ww anyway, but if I had something like that to go to I'd want to know whether I could let my hair down or not.

Cheepz Congrats on resigning!!!! V pleased the contract came through. And well done on finding a balance that is working for you, it has to be a better 'place' to be, especially if you're going to have investigations about the recurrent MC, I suspect that will be a frustrating and difficult time and to have something very complicated, new and exciting to concentrate on instead I would think will be really helpful.

Northerngoldilocks, I had crampiness for about a week and half before I got my period after the ERPC, about 5 1/2-6 weeks after, so maybe it's on its way for you?

Clareanna 20 toddlers??

WYG, am really crossing fingers for you, hope it's good luck this time.

VivC, well done on getting through it today, you deserve much chocolate and wine and feet up.

Barrenbrook - goodness, accupuncture does seem to be effective...I hope it's not too awful for you, and over quickly.

Ah, sooo...not much happening here - think RTD is over, was quite light which made me wonder if that stuff about your lining being light after an ERPC could be true - certainly didn't seem to lose much (TMI I know). Have been a bit of an odd mood - half can't wait to get back into TTC, have the CBFM etc all lined up, on the other hand have been booking holidays and ordered a crate of wine , I know life shouldn't stop but this feels bit like I'm double-bluffing myself .

Sorry - X-posted there Hairy. It does sound like it's the mystery 'blip' causing the hormones to rise slowly then, doesn't it. Really sorry that's all dragging on for you.

barren poor you, words fail me. Stay strongvand hope you are being well looked after xx

What are you growing in your garden Digital Girl? I found out that I got an allotment a few days before I found out I was pg, and hummed and hawed about taking it knowing the work involved and how I would cope with it, but I'm glad I did as it has been a welcome distraction. I planted some purple sprouting broccoli, carrots, beet root, and radish today.

Thanks for thinking of me, Lady Bee, I am doing OK today. AF is still visiting me, but soon I will be able to have SWI, and this cheers me up. I don't know what will happen next, but I'm glad that I feel a bit brighter.

WYG, the retail therapy may have worked wonders, but I will probably be staring at my closet tomorrow AM, wondering what to wear :-)

HairyT I hope that your Monday and your hormones get off to a good start.

TTFN all!

hello all - will quickly type and then read and catch up...

has been 10 days now since erpc and been feeling RUBBISH - totally over tired and drained (ill) tests still positive which is so frustrating

anyone have advice on waiting/not waiting for a month?

sorry for me me me will catch up now...

Hi everyone,
PPP, nice to see you back, hope you are doing okay. Sorry that you are not feeling well. It is horrible still getting positives when you know that it's not true.
LAF, I agree with Cheepz, Westfield therapy is always good, me and my OH went last week and got a Wii Fit, which is quite exciting. (Trying my best to banish all mental thoughts about jumping up and down dislodging possible beans inside. That's just stupid right?). Oh and am v. jealous that you have an allotment . I am on a six year waiting list! Hopefully by then I will have several small children to be free labour enjoy the gardening with me.
WYG, BUnder, Northerngoldilocks*, I'm due on this weekend, I think I can officially test today but determined to resist, despite the PT in my bathroom which calls to me in a siren-on-the-rocks fashion every time I go to the toilet. I have zero symptoms though which does not bode well. I don't even have PMT symptoms! Worried my whole reproductive symptom has just gone to sleep...
I started a new job last week though so that will hopefully keep my mind off the craziness. Yeah right...
Hairy I hope this is the week that you get some answers and things can start to get back to normality. You seem to be coping amazingly well with all this uncertainty. I would be quite literally chewing the sofa by now.
Viv, I'm glad that yesterday is over for you, was thinking of you. Gutted for you about the dress though.
Clareanna, hope you have recovered from the small army of toddlers you had over the weekend.
Magic, any news, or have I missed something?
Ladybee, holidays and crates of wine sounds like a good way of keeping the TTC madness in check.
Sorry if I've missed anyone, hope you all had a lovely weekend xxx

Morning ladies, gave in as no RTD but BFN this morn

Have pre op on Thurs for my surgery next week so it's for the best anyway. I think I lulled myself into the belief that I would fall this month as it is DD2s anniversary this weekend (Viv I know you know this feeling, hope you are ok today - glad yesterday went ok , you did so well! But I am sorry about your dress x). Keeping positive though especially with the Tommys Fundraiser on Saturday, my FIL offered a weeks holiday in one of their gites in France for auction, which is just fab and we have had lots of people offering and making donations which is lovely

Barren I hope you are doing ok after last night, I am glad things have moved on for you but I do hope you are not suffering too much and getting all the love and support you need.

PPP I think the fact that you are feeling pretty rough answers your question, we all want to crack on as soon as possible but we also know our bodies need to be tip top for a successful outcome......I think waiting at least one month is the best way to give you some idea and a little control over your cycle. Although in all honesty it's whenever you are ready x

Hairy you are being very brave, hang in there xxxx

LAF77 I am dead jealous of your allotment! I would love to grow more we just don't have the space. Wishing you a bumper crop!

Where are you off on holls Ladybee ?

BUnder and WYG how are you holding up??

Still housebound by the pox ........so will be back later.

xxxxx

hi Dorcas! My PT was doing that this morn! I think it must have been a duff test clutches at straws

All - (I won't name check everyone as posting sneakily at work!) - thanks so much all of you. To answer some of your questions, no, I have no hope of it being viable - I resigned myself after the last scan and the HCG rising at less than 30% each time, it is clearly the mystery 'blip'. At first I thought, oh! the mystery blip could be an early pregnancy, but I really don't think so - I think i'd have quicker rising HCG even in very early pregnancy.

so in my head, the plan is to get clarity, get rid of the 'retained products' have my hormones come down, ovulate again and SWI like mad!!!!

I know now that at least the sperm is reaching the egg, even though this time it either didn't implant or there was some reason it wasn't viable. But I'm going to eat incredibly healthy, take the Zita West tablets, and do everything possible (inc acupuncture) to get things going in the right direction next time.

Ever since I was told by a gynie doctor that although the chances at my age are low I should 'go for it' and she saw no reason why a healthy person like me couldn't be one of the lucky ones, and my 'healthy for a 21 year old let alone a 42 year old' hormone and ov tests, I have taken the attitude that there is no reason this can't happen for me just got to stay positive, and hope for a sticky bean sometime soon!!!!!

Also posting sneakily at work.

So am supposedly 4dpo and feeling very pre-mentatrual at the moment so maybe it was a failed ov? Or a massive surge of progesterone? But had a bit of brown cm yesterday just to add to the confusion.

LAF lucky you with your allotment! We've planted tomatoes, runner beans and aubergine so far. Sown seeds for courgette, beetroot, peppers, rocket, basil, coriander, dill and celery. And prepped the bed with compost for more planting once those seeds have sprouted. It's been a busy weekend! But ds has loved 'helping' especially if it involves getting his hands dirty.

hairy hope you get a resolution soon.

ladybee I agree - a holiday is the best thing (even if it's purely to invoke the law of sod).

viv thinking of you today.

magic sorry for your bfn. Could it be too soon? You're not late yet are you?

viv it was meant to raise at least a smile so giggle away, I always find distasteful humour helps me through dark times!

hairy it sounds like you at least now have some answers and you sound very positive which is great. Hope you are feeling ok x

well I think the worst of it is over for me, yesterday was sooooo painful, it was very odd having lumps coming out my foof for the duration of the day and being doubled over with the worst cramps I have ever experienced. T'was not fun and has made me think is it really all worth it? At the moment, I really don't know but i'm sure that feeling will mellow with time.

I never test that early Digit think it was a little premature..........I think also my dates might be 4 days out because I had that spotting last month, then nothing for 4 days before rtd arrived..........hoping the spotting might have been implantation bleeding...... Me thinks I is just keeping hold of those straws still very tightly!
Do you think maybe you had some ovulation bleeding?

Barren I am glad you are over the worst by the sounds of things xxxx What us girlies go through and put up with eh? xxx

magic Ah the perils of early testing! I actually glanced at the tests at Boots this lunchtime, but that would be a very silly waste of money. Re: the brown spotting, I suppose it might be ovulation bleed, although I've never had that before. It's continued a little today and is eerily reminscent of the start of the last mc. Not looking forward to rtd coming at all.

LAF77 I'm v envious of your allotment - we're on the waiting list but it's about 2.5 years round here (went on list last august). We're growing as much as we can in the garden for now.

I'm so glad to finally be on 2WW. We did a lot of SWI over the past 8 days, as it worked both previous times to get pg. No idea when I might have ovulated during that time - am definitely getting an ovulation test thingie if it's a BFN this month, as my next logical conclusion is that I'm not ovulating (used to get really obvious ovulation symptoms, none really since MC in Jan). Am really really keeping fingers crossed though.

barrenb been thinking of you a lot... larfed heftily at your description, am with you, at times as horrific as that you just have to be dark... remember that totally disconcerting feeling as a torrent falls away from you... Hope all easing now. Understand the emotion of whether it's worth it.

Hi to all - got to get one pot lemon chicken and thyme rice in the oven... oh and make crumble. Might as well bulk up for the battle ahead.... .

hopefully - what do you class as a lot of SWI? I've had a somewhat, ahem, busy few days myself, but am not sure what is classed as too much or too little. Obviously I know the generally accepted rule of every other day, but goddammit, that doesn't seem enough to me...

Yours,
I-Can't-Believe-I'm-Asking-This-Question-Viv-C
xxx

VivC LOL - I thought it, you said it!

viv I would say everyday is a lot, we have been known to go twice a day but that's usually followed a day off. I know you didn't ask me but couldn't help offering my opinion.

Ok - tmi tmi.

Got brown bits now. Sorry for over-sharing, but this is looking very much like when I started bleeding in my pregnancy with ds. Am irrationally worried I might be very early early pregnant and having a threatened mc already. Do I
a) take a pregnancy test to 'rule it out'?
b) ignore it and see if it turns into a full blown period.
c) keep having sex in case it's some weird ovulation thing (despite cervix being closed).

If I count first day of bleeding as cd1 then I am cd37 today so technically I could have ovulated a little earlier than I thought. I flipping hate bfn's so don't want to take one during the old 'am I pre-rtd spotting or is it implantation?' conundrum only to be kicked in the fanjo when the red bastard makes a proper appearance.

So much for being calm and laid back about ttc-ing in the WTF cycle.

Ooh, cross-post.

Digitalgirl - I know you're on CD37, but how many DPO do you think you are? Is it 5? (based on one of your earlier posts?)

Typically, I always get brown cm approx 2 or 3 days before RTD arrives. However, on the cycle before my last one, I had some brown cm on days 3, 4 and 5 post ovulation and then again on day 10. That was the cyle when RTD ended up being late (but I still got a BFN) so I still wonder whether it was something...

Anyway, FWIW, I don't think I'd test due to it being too early, so I'd probably hang in there for a couple more days x

digitalgirl if it was me, I'd leave it until RTD is definitely late, then test, at least then you only get one lot of disappointment and not two with testing and then the bitch rocks up to rub your nose in it IYSWIM.

Jolls Yum, lemon chicken and thyme rice, can I come to yours for tea!?

So, more me me me, hospital rings me this afternoon and it went something like this

Nurse: We can fit you in tomorrow for the ERPC.

Me: I believe I have passed most of it including a kidney or two yesterday and today.

Nurse: hmmm, how about we get you in for a scan and see and then if you have any 'retained products' then we will get it done tomorrow afternoon.

Me: Oh!

Feck. Are you telling me I went through a mini blood bath labour yesterday for nothing! Fingers, toes and legs crossed it's all gone and I can come home!

Hello to anyone I have missed with my self obsessed post

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digi if it's any help, my first 2 cycles after MC were totally weird, lots of brown CM odd spotting etc, but know it's so frustrating trying to work out what's going on... good luck with whatever you decide (pre my TTC break I was very much of the "ooh PTs on 3for2 - I'll have 6 and use them all... so can't be trusted for sane step-away-from-the-evil-stick advice)

barren hope scan shows all is well and that you don't need the ERPC after all. sounds bloody awful (ok weak joke!)

jolls recipe please!

magic bumcheeks - still never say never until the rusty one sings (mixed metaphor here I think?!)

As for me - inching into the SWI zone, big waves of solidarity to all the other long cycle sufferers!
Have also really noticed how much my mood is affected by my hormones - I'm in that "everything is possible" frame of mind now!

jeepers its always so busy on here

barren grim, and totally relate to the is it really worth it, for now we are just ignoring it!! am sure will get back on the ttc wagon at some point. best to go for scan tomorrow to make sure all gone though in case of infection

digital i am in no way an advocate of early testing - it is the devils work, but if you have unusual bleeding you might want to test so you know, i did that in Jan and it turned out my heavy period was actually an mc

waves to jolls nice to see you lady

viv hope tomorrow goes ok xx, re lots of swi = for me and DH that would eb once a week!! trying to find the time, energy and inclination to go every other day would be nigh on impossible - thats why I have to have the CBFM!!

PPP would wait at least one cycle post ERPC, and actually my second cycle post ERPC (this one) I bled for 14 days which is 10 more than normal so system def not back to normal. In jan I got pg straight after mc and had another mc so I am thinking though it is frustrating it is worth waiting just to know that the fact you didn't wait wasn't an issue.

magic pants!! I'll come in on that game of twister with you

mrs pretty where are you??!!

hopefully fingers crossed for you too this month

hairy positive attitude hon, good to see

busy day at work - want to leave early - have three months notice - but i think they are going to make me work it all because they don't like that I quit out of nowhere and am going to work for someone else who left recently, but its a better job - what am I suposed to do. At least it means I can take it easy while we move house as they wil still be paying me and I wil be slacking off in my last few weeks!

finally post CBFM peaks and highs today so from tomorrow we are safe for shagging until next month with no chance to concieve - DH will be very glad about that!

right DS needs to go to bed! ciao bellas