Continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Hello world!

Me neither... Hope I get that far, will be nearly a week late by then....

Funnily enough after last month I'm more concerned about the anxiety bfp would bring. Ignorant optimism for a while would be lovely. Fingers crossed....

Italian, rotten news. So sorry.

Diege and Alba stay away from the pee sticks [hypocrite emoticon].

Wave to everyone else. Will go look at your blog tomorrow gum.

Had my combined blood results back yesterday and risk for downs has dropped to 1:6289. Am over the moon. Certainty is 95% but that's good enough for me not to have amnio or cvs. Will have a scan mid May to find out the sex and then anomaly in June.

Got the thread on watch now so i can have a good nose about what all are up to without having to bore you all every three days. See you later ladies.

Hi all

Just popping in. Off to bed as totally pooped. Too much cleaning and gardening this week, getting the house ready to sell. Just instructed the agent tonight.

DS doing really well at nursery, tomorrow the last day of his settling in fortnight.

No SWI here. 3rd acu appt today, also my day21 blood test. But think I have only just ovulated, as suspect a LONG first cycle after MC as last time. So may need to redo it... oh what fun!

Hope all well - will catch up on posts and be back over the weekend.

x

xp greg
GREAT news - so pleased for you x

That is great news ILGH.Are you feeling well?Do you have any morning sickness? It must be a relief to get to over 12 weeks, to have had the tests, now just sit back and watch your belly and baby grow, buy lovely maternity clothes and tiny baby bits!Enjoy!

As for the testing thing - those internet cheapies are a bloody trap for me.They call my name, they smile at me seductively,urge me to just go ahead and pee..."if it's negative, it doesn't mean it's really negative, there's still time for a positive..."

They are wicked and I have no willpower! My crazy logic tells me I need to know as early as possible.I don't know why exactly. After having several false positives on blue dye tests last year I don't know if I'd even believe it if i did get an early positive.Probably best not to have the jolly things in the house and then only buy a test if there's any sign.But then again, I'm likely to always be an early tester and they are the cheapest option.It gets mighty expensive when you are using store bought first response (my favourite test) all the time.

My problem is that there's been no post partum AF yet, so maybe I'll catch an egg without noticing. Still, I reckon I'd know soon enough because early on everything tastes weird. Was it Alba who said that the coffee tasted funny? To me that is a sure sign, but everyone is different. My dr suggested I do a test every month,just in case, but I do tend to do it more often.It's like a hobby I suppose...

Italian I only check the thread every so often and have only just seen your news. I was so hopeful for you. I'm really sorry. I'm impressed with the way you are dealing with it.

ILGH - that's a pretty amazing result - congratulations!

I didn't ovulate this month. Not a good sign but am now have anovulatory bleed so am hoping I'll be in ovulation mode next month. DD is away with her father this weekend so DP and I will have plenty of opportunity to discuss booking an appointment at a clinic and going down donor egg route. I think part of me is scared they'll run tests and say I'm too late (old) even for that.

Going to bed now before I eat any more chocolate. (Actually its chocolate from DD's Easter Egg mountain that I'm eating. Is that really bad?)

(sorry turned into a monster post!)
Ladies - I'm back!! Have been a periodic lurker for a few months, and trying to keep up with everything it's all happening so fast - huge sympathy for those who have had MC & failed treatments it's so awful, my heart goes out to you. I do love this thread because it's always so supportive and hopeful.
For those I haven't met/ remember me I am 46, had MC last April and decided that seeing as I could get pregnant, I would give it one more try with the help of acupuncture. There began the strange world we inhabit of CM, OPK, DPO etc etc. I discovered I am in fact very healthy, just a bit over the hill in reproductive terms. I've had a few months where I'm convinced I have been PG only to have a day late AF. Then in Feb I was late, tested on due date - neg. Next day - neg, day after etc etc. AF came 2 weeks late, and I know I ov so mystery. Acupuncture man (who now knows more about my menstrual cycle than any other man I know) tentatively suggested I go and get hormone profiling, I discussed with DH and we decided that we don't want to go down the donor egg route, so little point. My RL friend who got pregnant a couple of months after my MC had her little boy on 12th March, and I was getting kind of resigned to the end as it were - at least I'm not surrounded by pregnant friends any more IYSWIM!
Anyway, I did my last OPK stick on day 13 of my cycle - smiley face. Troops in place as Hippy would say thus began the 2ww. I actually forgot for a few days, and when AF late didn't run for the test as I'd used so many the month before & a) didn't have any b) bit pissed off at Mr Clear Blue & co getting all my money. Last Friday, 4 days late was sat in a meeting and thought - I think I'm pregnant. Went into town after, bought a normal CB, got home, did test, GOT BFP within 10 secs!!!!!!!!!!!
So moral of the story is DO NOT TEST ON THE DAY AF IS DUE - you may be pleasantly surprised if you leave it a few days.
I am now 5+5 and quite frankly bricking it, after last year. Am going to book a 7 week scan if all ok next week.
Sorry for long post, looking forward to keeping up with you all again and maybe eventually I'll get over to the PG boards...not just yet tho!
Hope everyone enjoying the sun xxx

Morning . Frosticle good that you have the time and space to discuss option with dp this weekend. Glad I'm not the only one with the Easter egg habit (stealing the dds ones I mean . I could swear that dd3 hasn;t mentioned her eggs for about 2 weeks, but asked this morning for her pink egg. Oh dear...
Alba I agree, ignorant optimism is lovely. I too will be anxious if I get a bfp after my MMC, even though I've had ds since. I think mcs really do change your experience of early pregancy.
Gumblossom you know you almost had me reaching for the pee-sticks there with your logic I did giggle at it being your 'hobby' .
ILGH excellent news on your test results. Is that the nuchal and bloods you had? I do find testing a real minefield, so good to hear of your very low risk result. You must be delighted
Hi to everyone else

Wow Genghis what a wonderful story . How are you feeling - any sickness yet?

ghenghis huge congrats. that is such a positive story. hope it sticks around for the next 8 months and gives you no trouble.

Glad to see 'the troops' is catching on. I like to imagine them in their dessert outfits ready and waiting!!!

ILGH fab results - especially at our age - that is re-assuring for all of us.

Ok, just thinking aloud, but do you think (re: testing) it's better to wait till after af due and thus be pretty certain of result, or sort of let myself down gently (mentally prepare) for arrival of af by doing a series of tests that come up neg and slowly get that message into my brain???

I say enjoy some quiet optimism. Deal with disappointment if and when it comes but enjoy the here and now. And spend the money saved on treats instead.
That's my plan anyway, wonder how long I'll last??

Fab results ILGH, you must be really relieved and happy

Thank-you Alba from bringing me back from the brink...yes, I will do what you say (I know it's for the best and you've just confirmed my gut feeling really!). So when are you testing then?

diege In my experience it really doesn't matter what you decide now. With the best will in the world, if you have any HPT in your house you will make a decision not to test to early and then all of a sudden you will find yourself weeing on a stick and thinking "How did I get here?"

Try to hold off as long as possible but in the end you'll do what you'll do - cos that's what we do!!!! Ha Ha - what the flippin' 'eck are you on about Hippy??

I can't believe that before I started TTC #3 I had only ever done 2 preg tests and both had resulted in my DS's. Now I pee on any old sticks that I can .

Lets hope we all get the results we want when we finally cave in.

Now you mention it hippy, I have a few opk sticks left over and happen to know you get a +ve on them if pg as well as when ovulating (similar structure to LH and HCG... Doesn't work the other way round though)... Damn, wish I hadn't remembered that...

Optimistic ignorance... Daily mantra. DS leaves me so sleep deprived sticks are the last thing on my mind first thing just at the moment anyway... One benefit of bad nights!!

Lol Hippy wise-words indeed. I am still liking the new mature me though (I'm still 39 for another month remember )who doesn't so much as glance at the open box of freshly bought 10iu pregnancy tests that is sitting within reach of the toilet...
Alba is that true about opks??? That means I have 18 tests in my bathroom..dh is also away when I would test, and wants to wait till Sunday morning (a week on). Seriously, waiting that long (when af would be 3 days late) would seriously result in no sleep at all sat night, so will probably test next Friday if af hasn't appeared by then.

ghenghismaam - congratulations, so encouraging to read stories like that. Thank you for posting.

Alba and Diege - beware do not use opks as pg tests, I found out to my dispair that you get an LH surge just before AF appears, and you can get a positive or near positive with them due to that. One month I thought I was pg due to opk sticks, but negative pg tests and af arrival was not a good way to find this out, it was posting on mn about it that I found out this quirk. Having said that: I actually used my last remaining opk last week to see if my af was around the corner and it was useful to know it was (since it was not possible for me to be pg)!!!!!

I am feeling much more positive with being on this thread. I am contemplating ttc this month rather than waiting. But then again I am due a smear test so perhaps I will just get that done and wait another month. Even though my plan to lose weight before trying again has failed already!

Thanks rowingboat. It is interesting what you say about the donor embryos. I would be interested to know more about it if you remember or find out where you heard about it. So you have embies in Europe and embies in Britain (which is also in Europe) and plans for elsewhere, and all by the summer? Sounds like you will not just be busy but mega busy.

AlbaDeTamble Thanks for remembering me. I'm having a weep now; I'm watching a programme about escapees from a prisoner of war camp in the UK, German men now the age of father-in-law! It's just very sad, they escaped from the camp and then they tried to get away but all were caught. It is so weird as they were on the other side in the war but brave of them to try and escape. They are all good humoured now and strangely look like father-in-law (who is not German!). The war in Europe ended a few weeks later and they were probably safer being in the camp.

Hippy all the best for these ovulation attempts, glad the troops were in place - you make it sound like a war!

ILoveGregoryHouse Well done, great odds.

Frosticle Thanks mate, hope all is well with you. Just looked at your picture, you look so young! You are 44 right? well, you are not too old for donor eggs, just check the clinic will be able to treat you and you will be fine. All the best if you do decide to go down the donor egg route. If DH were more up for it I would consider again, and if we had the money.

Yes, I have eaten DD's Easter eggs, but yes, I feel guilty!

ghenghismaam excellent, well done.

Waves and chocs to all .

Morning all, thank you gor your kind comments! Am feeling really sick - the kind of low level nausea that you get when hungover but without the night before. It's copeable with.
Diege & Alba i would echo what Rainbow says re OPK - there are so many fluctuations and they will always do what they are meant to do ie pick up LH, yes they will pick up HCG too but there's no way of differentiating. Hold on in there!
Having challenge with DS who is 4, decided to tell him (as his friend was there when I told his mum so didn't want him blabbing) and this week he has pooed/soiled his pant 5 times, yesterday after I had taken him to the loo, then 5 mins later sat on the chair whilst I was packing at the checkout in Sainsburys and did another in his pants! Totally out of character for him and am feeling really stressed, because obviously I don't want him feeling upset.
Hope everyone has a lovely day in the sunshine
S x

Ghengis!!!!!I have been missing you and really wondering what had happened to you, so I am so chuffed to hear your news.If I could,I'd be giving you a BIG hug(don't care how uncool it is on MN).

I'm thinking you bought a mia's spell ages ago? Well, I did too, but it came to nought(as yet!)Still hoping an egg will came along...

Sorry everyone, want to reply to you all, but damn, can only pop on for a min, gotto cook dinner.Hopefully, Sunday morning I can take my time and read properly.

Just had to say something to Ghengis, cos I really have missed you.

Aw thanks Gum in WA! uncool hug received and returned!
Yes I did do Mias Spell, but in my resignation that it wasn't gonna happen, I didn't ever email her to tell her it hadn't worked - but i did keep the charm on my bedside table so who knows...mind you i did do the twins spell so watch this space! x

Thanks Rainbow and Genghis about the opk advice, will def avoid now. There are enough uncertainties in this game anyway, without adding another one into the mix! Glad the sickness if manageable Genghis!
Must post and run here too - ds a nightnare with his teeth, 3 coming through at once and not a happy boy. Taking dds out clothes shopping this afternoon, a departure from my usual internet shopping...could be fun or could be a bleedin' nightmare!

Long post coming up - sorry.

I have a few songs on my MP3 player which come on after Zita West has finished talking me into a trance. Sometimes i wake up for them!

i don't know if it's cos I'm thinking about babies and the 'little one' we lost but there are 2 songs that I feel are very appropriate for a couple of diffferent situation.

I thought I'd share a few of the words with you.

i don't think it is a copyright issue cos i wont do all the words.

the first is a song by Katie Melua which always make me think of my MC. i think it would be relevant to anyone who has suffered a MC or perhaps an IVF cycle where the embryos didn't stay:-

I cried for you
when the sky cried for you
and when you went
I became a hopeless drifter.
But this life was not for you, though i learned from you,
that beauty need only be a whisper.
in many years they may forget
this love of ours or that we met
they may not know how much you meant to me
Without you, now I see
how fragile the world can be
And i know you've gone away
But in my heart you'll always stay.
I cried for you and the sky cried for you
and when you went I became a hopeless drifter.
But this life was not for you, though i learned from you,
that beauty need only be a whisper.
that beauty need only be a whisper.

The other is a more uplifting tune by Michael Buble (and i have mentioned it on the MC thread perviosuly).

I feel that it applies to the babies we are all trying to concieve (or adopt) and it is a jolly little tune to remind us to keep going so we get what we desire one day.

I'm not surprised, not everything last
i've broken my heart so many times I've stopped keeping track
talk myself in, I talk myself out
I get all worked up, then i let myself down
I tried so very hard not to lose it
I came up with a million excuses
i thought, i thought of every possibility
and i know some day that it'll all work out
you'll make me work, so we can work to work it out
and i promise you, kid, that i give so much more than I get
I just haven't met you yet
I might have to wait, I'll never give up
i guess it's half timing, and the other half luck
wherever you are, whenever its right
You'll come out of nowhere and into my life
And I know that we can be so amazing
and, baby, your love is gonna change me
and now i can see every possibility
they say alls fair
in love and war
but i wont need to fight it
we'll get it right and we'll be united
and i know that we can be so amazing
and being in your life is gonna change me
and now i can see every single possibility
i just haven't met you yet.
and someday i know that it'll all turn out
and i'll work to work it out
promise you kid, i 'll give more than i get,
than i get, than i get
i just haven't met you yet