Continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Hello world!

Italian words are sometimes very hard to find. Thinking of you at this most difficult time. Your faith is admirable and will be such a support to you now (and forever of course). Please pop in and see us x.

linda - so sorry to hear your about your MMC. Have had 2 myself, so know how tough it is. Echo Hippy's MC thread recommendation - yes it is difficult at times, yes it is ridiculously active and busy, but all the women on there are really supportive to all the post MC feelings and reactions. I still use it, but also totally understand the sentiment from Hippy and others about it being emotionally wrangling. We had a BFP on there today though, which is always uplifting.

No TTC news here - am having a day21 test this week and persisting with acupuncture. Been mad busy with getting snagging done and estate agent valuations today, so no time/energy for any SWI anyway .

Wave to all. Will pop back soon. Cats calling.... (at least DS snoring)...

Hello all! Just been walking on the beach with my LO after a couple of good night's sleep (he only woke twice, yay!),so feeling much better. I've been having some cramping very low down, which makes me think either my first post partum AF might actually show (yay!) or maybe, just maybe,it's implantation(Huge Yay!)Of course it might just be nothing! I would have thought if it was either of those things I'd get sore boobs too, but they aren't really.

Italian, I'm really sorry to hear you didn't get your bfp, but I have a feeling you'll have a baby one way or another. please KUP.

How is everyone else feeling?

Linda I hope you don't let your age put you off.I'm cheering on the sidelines for anyone over 40 to give it a try. I"m sure the mc was devastating, but I think it doesn't mean it will happen again.I really believe we still have good eggs, it's just a matter of time and getting the good one.I also believe in the power of nutrition and supplements for the health of our eggs.If anyone is interested,I wrote an article about it and put it on my blog,here:www.angieathome.blogspot.com/
If you do have a look scroll down past the article about bringing a newborn home cos that might be upsetting, which is not my intention. I actually wrote the articles to submit to a website, to see if I could earn money writing on the web,but I found out how little you get paid and decided it wasn't worth the effort, so just popped it on the blog.

I'm not trying to drum up business, just thought my research about nutrition and fertility might be helpful.

Right, better get on with the housework.I wish I had a maid, sigh....

Italian - it has been years since I went to spring harvest, but it is a good encouraging place to be. Glad you got some help while there. I think it is very difficult to let go of hope. I am definitely struggling with trying to decide if it is right for me to continue at the moment. Adoption sounds like a great idea, hope you get some help and advice from the adoption threads here.

gumblossom - hope that the cramps are positive for you.

linda - those biological clocks should be banned for there noise levels! I am sorry to hear about your mmc. it is so hard to deal with in the early days when hormones are still flying around, but I hope that you find yourself welcome here and supported to try again when ready.

diege - well done on your cholesterol levels!

rowing - wow finding out your have more frozen emby's than you thought!

I am in a do I / Don't I stage of ttc. I am cd2 and thinking about what to do this month. Still thinking alot about my previous m/c's so I am erring on the side of not ttc this month, and waiting til next month.

Hi everyone,
Italian I'm so sorry to hear the treatment didn't work. I do know that feeling and it is so crashing. I'm glad you have your faith to help you get through a difficult time.
I was laughing about the phone in the loo and the coat and the texting. It's funny how these peculiar situations arise to remind us there is still silliness and humour in the saddest of times, you just happen to be one of those people who notices.
I don't know if you remember me posting about embryo adoption in Europe, it's our plan C. They can match your colouring and background etc... and it costs 1000 euros, plus your travel any additional tests. Just thought I would mention if you were still in that frame of mind.
If not I do hope you stay around here and chat and find a fabulous new home on the adoption threads, they will love you over there.
Must fly, but hi to Linda and welcome.
Alba paracetamol is OK, but ibuprofen is an anti-inflammatory and possibly can interfere with implantation or so my clinic have told me. However, do a google to check that one out.
Hi Gum, Diege, Jollster, Rainbow and Hippy

Hi all, just making sure I can find the thread later....
Speak soon

AlbaDeTamble Thanks for your kind comments. Hope your rib is OK.

Thanks for the Hippy hug.

jollster thanks for your kind words, I know faith is very important, it is for me, and it is forever. So I feel very happy that my faith gives me strength but I know that we can all also have times of feeling down. I do feel quite torn at times, between wishing I could try again and just wanting to accept it.

Diege Thanks for your lovely comments and welcome. It is kind of funny to think someone is following my story, like I am a soap opera! But actually very nice!

Gum Thanks for the kind words, I do hope you are right about my getting a baby. I had a look at your blog. Fab pictures, are the ones of the baby having a bath and the baby foot pocking on the side of the mum's belly your pics? I have been trying to get into writing for ages and it is very hard work!

lindalinda welcome. Just my opinion but if you are otherwise healthy and able to conceive I would go for it. I would try and lose that 2 stone but people in real life will know I am trying to lose weight for a very long time! Is it worth asking your doc for any help?

rainbowdays thanks for your kind comments, did you go to Minehead or Skeggie for Spring Harvest? Hope you resolve your thoughts on whether to try this month or not.

rowingboat Thanks for your kind words too. I think years of watching Frasier has made me very aware of farce (I just loved 'Noises off' the TV version, and I went to see it on stage, I went with my sis). I am interested in the embryo thing but I guess it feels funny to me if they have just created these embryos for people, I guess what I liked about having some that were 'left' after other people's treatment had finished they would not wish to give their extra embies a chance and I could, so in a way I almost saw it like a kind of 'adoption'! If that is Plan C, and I guess plan A is your own eggs, what is plan B, donor eggs? Just curious. All the best with your treatment.

Part of me wants to look into Donor embies but DH is not keen. I know it is both of our decisions so I can't push him but I know if the clinic said they had any I expect I would be more eager. Having said that I am feeling very positive today, visited a friend who has adopted and saw her lovely little one and we chatted a lot and I just feel whatever will be will be..... no not bursting into song like Doris, que cerae serar! How do you spell that!

All the best to all and chocs.

Hi Italian,
thank you for the chocs sweetie! MN is too cool to have a hug emoticon so here is a {{{{{{{hug}}}}}}}}} from me.

As far as I know the embryos are not created specifically for adoption, but are left over from other donor treatment. I don't know how it works exactly.
Our plan B is to go and get our other embryos in Europe and plan A is the FET in this country and THEN finally plan C is donor embryo.
I have a cut-off in my head of the end of Summer so we are going to be very busy this Summer.
You are bound to feel very conflicted about this whole process, it is a very tough process to put yourself through and you may feel very differently in a week or a month. Just give yourself time and be gentle on yourself and your DH. Pamper yourself if you can.

Hi, just a quickie, I'm on my way out the door and don't want to lose my place.

Thanks for lovely comments about my blog.I'm chuffed. Those pics of baby in bath and preg belly aren't mine, I got them off the net.All my photos are on a thumb drive cos my computer carcked it! And I don't know how to use dh's mac toput them on...so won't be blogging much for a while.

Must dash, will try to catch up properly later.

Just a quick pop in from me too (at work). I have to say I am very much in awe of all your stories and experiences. This is such an unlifting thread, even when people are having such hard times to get through.
I suppose where I'm 'up to' seems relatively simple and boring. On day 21 of a 28 day cycle; pregnancy test cheapies arrived this morning off e-bay but going to hold out until at least a week before testing (remind me of that).
Will have a proper read through now and hopefully back later xx

diege, those ultra-early cheapie internet tests are very bad things to have around. It's really hard not to use them when they're there and they're so cheap... Sad fact is a very high proportion of conceptions don't make it beyond the first few days and mostly we're unaware of what's happened, unless those early tests are around (I tested at 10 dpo last month and got a positive, but it wasn't meant to be ). Depends how much it would upset you to know... and how good you are at leaving the tests in the cupboard... but I know I'm going to go with blissful ignorance and no tests in the house till I'm a few days late in future.

Hope that didn't ruin the upliftingness of the thread for you too much! And hope the tests are positive in a week's time and you have stronger willpower to leave them in the packet till then than I did!

Loved your blog, gum. It all puts me to shame as a working mother who pays to get the house cleaned, shops for groceries online and leaves most of the cooking to DH

Italian, thoughts still with you. I hope you're finding space for a good old weep if you need it. Can be very cathartic at times like this.

Lindalinda that health kick sounds like a very good idea, can't lose.

Rowing I can't keep up with all these possible babymaking schemes you have! Hoping you're on to the post-40 pregnancy thread before the end of the summer...

Rainbowdays hello, I think we met briefly on the post-40 pregnancy thread at the start of the year. So sorry to see you back here.

Not much news from me, 10 dpo and trying (unsuccessfully) to stop obsessively symptom spotting.....

Hi all. Good to see so many of us about.

i had the worse ovulation pain ever yesterday. i had such bad pains on my left that i thought it was gonna be a leave work go straight to hospital type of thing. Had a google and read that this can happen and that many people think it is something dead serious.

The whole thing was over in about 3 hours and i was fine after, so i assume it was just bad ov pain. At least there is little doubt in my mind that I'm ovulating! Since the MC both the ovulations i've had have been very definite and have been backed up by my charts. It's like my body is saying - here's an egg - don't miss it .

Anyway, the troops were in place so there's nothing to do now but sit here twiddling my thumbs and wait. Time to crack open the new jar of progesterone cream - will report back.

Love to all. xxx

That's good advice Alba Been there done that with the chemical pregnancy and have experienced that awful sense of regret of having started testing so early watching the line get fainter and fainter...I think I can be fairly strong (easy to say 7days post-ov). Currently obsessing over my 10 mths after section possible pregnancy. I thought I was reassured, but worrying a bit about implications of it happening too soon (12 mths being 'optimal - now they tell me] . No pleasing some people . So ALBA, symptoms please?

Nothing like tempting fate eh, Diege?? Is 'they' the medical profession, or is this just google evidence driving you mad??

Symptoms? Suddenly this morning coffee tasted really really horrid. Rather sad as I needed it, having been up plenty in the night with DS (big back molars) and struggled to get back to sleep every time as ribs hurting a bit still...

When are they going to invent time-release calpol so we don't have to get up at four hourly intervals to re-dose a grizzly child??

hippy if you get a bfp this month then I'm buying some of that cream too..... chuckling at 'the troops'

Google-evidence...Have had another google since and reassured that 9-12 mths post section is ok for old birds
And I LOVE the idea of time-release calpol (ds also teething badly). Your symptoms sound very 'good',dare I ask when you might test?
HIPPY, I have heard that ovulation pains can occur after a mc, certainly did after mine and were in a way quite reassuring. Good luck for this month!

I will not test this month
I will not test this month
I will not test this month

(well, ok, maybe late next week if I get that far, but NOT before)

Right, shall we say Friday 30th for both of us??

alba I'm just gonna be the voice of reason here. Remember last month - when you got a faint positive and then it went away, try to remember exactly how you felt. Would you prefer to have not know that you came that close or was it more reasurring for you to know that your body could do that bit???

Whatever you answer to this - make your decision about testing based on that.

What do you think?? Too bossy???

The reason i say that is cos when you got that result and then had the disappointment after, i felt so sad for you, cos I thought it must be such a disappointment and I decided to use that example to remind myself not to test too early.

Having said all that I will be on here in about 10 days time saying, "Stop me, Stop me!!!"

Anyway, I think asking yourself if you wish you'd done differently last month might help a bit.

Here's hoping for BFP's all round. If only you could just order them like drinks in a bar .

diege thanks for the re-assurance about ov pain.

I can't see how it would be ok to have a pregnancy one year after a c section but not 10 months. What can happen in that 2 months. Surely nothing major!

So you have a 10 month old now and you are meant to wait until he/she is a year before you start a pregnancy is that what you mean??? I'm a bit slow sorry, should be a (thicky face icon).

How are you doing italian.

Must have a look at gums blogg.

Stop hogging the thread Hippy!!!

Just had a look at your Blogg Gum. Wow. I would not have a clue how to put all that together. It's great.

Please tell freya I love her project - mostly done by you (and her name - one we have considered if we have a girl).

Ok I'll let someone else say something now!

Hee hee Hippy, I like your posting style
Re: c-section you've got it spot on - I have a 10mth old and the 'experts' (not that any spoke to me after the birth about it) say wait 12 mths...but then other 'experts' say 3 mths, 6 mths, 18mths...yadda yadda. As you say, can't see 10 mths after being that different an experience to another 8 weeks!

Exactly. I can see why getting preg 6 months after a c section could be risks but I'd guess you are healed up well by now. Go for it girl.

Are you testing next week or has my mature level headedness put you off????

I follow your logic entirely...I am of the school that thinks I'd rather live with the hope of a bfp until I'm proved wrong by af, than start early with testing with the assurance that negs are probably 'postives in waiting'...although my actions sometimes contradict that!
I will test no earlier than April 30th