Continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Hello world!

Welcome Lia. So glad you found us here.

You were one of the people I liked chatting to on the MC thread (along with jolly and alba), but, as the others on here know - I sometimes find that thread hard to stick with.

1. It is just so busy and 2) When new people arrive all shellshocked and sad it brings it all back to me and makes me very negative. I've actually been banned by DH from going on there (don't tell them though). I do still pop on.

Anyway, everyone this is Liaghen my friend from the other thread, she's a doula.

Hippy presents Liaghen as if she were a new girl at school - ha ha.

Ooh, I have a buddy, how cool.

Is it ok if I stay in my old uniform till my new one arrives?

Thanks hippy i understand exactly what you mean about the other thread, it has been a god send but I do want to start to feel better at some point. (dh doesn't really know about my obsession hobby)

Feeling a bit emotional today, not sad particularly just weepy. We went to see nanny McPhee (smallc, big P) and was emotional at that too.

Due on tomorrow so I know why. Really fancy a fab lolly too, do you remember those.

Well Lia you do stand out a bit in green cos we are all wearing maroon but we'll see how it goes .

If you haven't got AF yet maybe the emotions are all down to you being pregnant?????

This 2 ww is killing me. Mostly cos I have listened to my positive thinking CD so much this month and have become about 99.9% sure i will get pregnant this month .

Hippy heads for a fall!!!!!

Glad I'm not the only one who finds the other thread a bit too emotional.

Hippy waves to all - especially Italian - hang on those embies. XX

I'm out, RTD appeared about midnight so I guess that's day 26 so back to normal which is good.

hippy I have everything crossed for you

so am popping into town , gotta go to library to take books back and get a book so I can make dd's birthday cake next week, am doing Cinderellas castle, I will get my new uniform then. Maroon you say? Rightyo.

Have good day everyone. It's love;ly and warm today

Wow Italian your story was so beautiful and full of such positivity it was really emotional just to read think their names are fabulous and sending you lots of positive hanging in there embies vibes. I love that film, ridiculous premise though it is, just very cute.

Loving the positive approach Hippy, really hope it works . I am thinking I must find out more about these positive thinking/affirmations as I am prone to excessive pessimissim in general, and become quite irrational when ttc, when are you testing?

I am due af in 5 days but no symptoms yet and the last few months she has been 3/4 days early, had horrendous pmt last month (even convinced myself had morning sickness) so not sure wether lack of any symptoms is good or bad news. Not even sure if/where you can get tests out here - which is probably a very good thing

Hi to Lia, liking the green so much more flattering than maroon did af arrive today?

waves to everyone

Hi Lia,
welcome to the thread. Do I know what a Fab lolly is! I used to buy boxes from out local freezer centre, but they only seem to stock the orang version now, which is quite nice, but...
Could you please enlighten me as to what RTD is? I am trying to work it out, I'm thinking it is not a roll top desk?
26 day cycle sounds nice and neat and tidy, wish I could have a 30 day cycle at the moment, anything would do.

Hippy that's the spirit! Fingers crossed for you. When is AF due?

Haystack is the TTC thing getting to you? It's still very early days for you, hopefully, you won't have to become hardened like me.

Italian can I just say 'Ikea' when it comes to 'divine' food for children. I think they do at least have a pasta option, but the rest of it is ghastly. Mind you, it's probably me, I quiver at the thought of having to eat at Ikea.
It sounds quite healthy to forget about the treatment, it's your brain's way of giving you a nice break from the whole thing. It must be nice actually, not to have to do the stimulation part - I'm happy never to do that again, ever!

Still awaiting AF here. Ventured out today, still on holiday until Friday PM so really, really lolling around.
We went to a puppet show where DS first didn't want to go in (too crowded and dark and noisy) then did go in and lost interest, started playing cars with a smaller boy.
His mummy was not happy that he was playing cars, at all! She kept scooping him up and my DS kept going over to see if he wanted to play. I could feel a kind of bristling from the mummy so I told DS not to go over to the boy because I thought his mummy was getting 'grumpy'.
She reminded me of me, before DS started nursery. I used to think he had to act 'properly' wherever and used to be so tense. Now I am happy as long as he doesn't scream at or physically abuse anyone.

oddly enough my primary school uniform was green, but secondary was maroon (with flashes of City Red) but anyway....

have been reading but on my phone, so no chance to post. But DS asleep so am seizing the moment....

italian your post was amazing - thank you so much for sharing. I cannot imagine how the wait must be for you. Thinking of you and sending the MOST positive of thoughts.

frosticle don't know EXACT figure but my friend has had 2 SUCCESSFUL cycles with donor eggs for less than 10k (including flights to Spain etc).

lia welcome - lovely to see you.

warm sunshine squeezes to everyone else (partic my hippy beachchum).

On CD5 on WTF cycle.... have first accupuncture session on Thursday. And suppose I better get back in the mindset of having sex again soon... .

Must dash, chores before DS wakes. x

rowing RTD is period, ie Red Tide of doom! so called by a poster on the fed up of swi thread.

Someone asked when I will be testing and when Af is due.

The answer is ages yet.

Af due about 16th April. But might be earlier cos I ov'd early.

A good friend in RL is trying and is due then as well and she's had quite a tough time of it, so I'm hoping we both get a good result.

Probably wont test before due date cos I don't want to catch a chemical pregnancy or the like.

Having said all that - the first sign of those achey boobs and I'll be peeing on a bloody stick and I know it .

I am worried that Zita has somehow brain washed me into believing I will be successful. Imagine if I met her in real life she could probably get me to commit a crime or anything!!!

at you and Zita in cahoots for robbing boots of all it's clearblues hippy

I was going to type that she might persuade me to assasinte the presdent but I am so scared that big brother will see that I have typed that and put me on some kind of list somewhere.

I'm still too scared to remove the stars - .

Did you get the new uniform lia?

Sure did, do you like it? Not sure about the socks though, think I might go for some nice thick tights.

Am so angry tonight, a group of girls intimidated my 15 yr dd at a party earlier and she came home earlier. ame girls who bullied her at school and made us take her out. Am gonna go to the police and speak to the venue about their acohol laws.

liahgen66 welcome. I am so sorry to hear about your dd. I am sure you will handle it well. I know it sounds a bit flippant but I am always offering to shoot up an arrow (quick) prayer for people and will do so for your dd. I hate bullying, it is so cowardly, a real sign of people who themselves have real problems but it manifests in hurting others, making even greater problems. It is just terrible and I think it is not taken seriously enough in our society. Having said that at least nowdays there is help, I think there are a few charities that help, offering advice and I hope you will get some. I hope you will get whatever result would be best for your dd. My thoughts are with you and Thank you for your kind words to me.

Hippy and Haystack Thanks for your kind words too.

Haystack where is 'out here' are you in some far flung place or somewhere like Slough! My DH has a view that you are all truckers from Slough called Dave!

Hippy just make sure Zita does not tell you to k*ll the president of Malaysia (As in Zoolander!).

rowingboat Ditto to the my/your kid not screaming or physically hitting anyone and feeling glad. My DD hid my welly before we left today, had a bit of a tantrum at the farm (a children's play place not a mental institution), and took her shoes and socks off and played in the mud...and I still told DH that DD has been really good today!

Jollster when you said something like 'DS is asleep' I thought you meant dh/dp! I thought he was stopping you posting! Then I read something like 'chores before DS wakes' and thought who is this prince?! then I realised it was your son and not your hubby/partner!

Just made Moussaka and I am mega full! If those embies are still in there they are jostling for position alongside a ton of aubergine, lamb mince and potatoes!

Had a bit of a meltdown tonight, just all getting on top of me! Will be fine tomorrow.

Waves and choccies to all

Typed long catchup, on iPhone, and then lost entire post. Hugely annoying!

So, précis version:
crossing fingers for you and your lovely embies Italian
big hello liahgen, where have you been, you disappeared for ages... Hope you're hanging in there...
Hippy, with you on brainwashing as means to be positive about this. Not sure it's working but do know my commute now the most relaxing time ever! Loving it.
Big waves to all. Back to work now. 2 weeks work to be done in one before holiday.... Snow obsession getting bad... It's warming up, eek, but due to get cold again and more snow by Sunday so should be good...

rowing hope the positivity is coming along ok. Give me a B, give me an A give me an R - you get the idea - go Barry!

Italian Poor old you, I cannot imagine how stressed you are. I'm sure those around you in RL will forgive you for having the odd meltdown. Not long to go now .

Lia It is always horrible when people are nasty to our children (no matter how old they are). I think it's just cos we love them so very much that we cannot imagine anyone not loving them too or being horrid to them in any way. I hope she is feeling better about it today. What was the outcome regarding telling the police etc. That is disgraceful that you had to move her. The bloody bullies should have been made to bugger off!

Hi to everyone else.

ps. Not sure about the knee socks!! hee hee.

Hi all,
Italian that is funny about your DD, I can just imagine her squelching around in the mud. How did you get her cleaned up? Throw her into a big puddle?
Was laughing about Jollster's DS/H being asleep and making her do chores before he woke up. 'Keep that noise down woman, I am having some beauty sleep!!'

Jollster how are you finding acupuncture? I went for a few sessions before my last IVF and although I think it worked for some things, I dreaded going. [cowardly face]

Alba did you book a holiday for definite? Do you have skiing clothes or just lots of jerseys?

Lia that is very, very hard to deal with, the bullying. Did you check out the alcohol situation at the venue? What kind of affair was it, a disco (can I still say disco?).
Bullying at school isn't something we have had to deal with and nobody should. From what I have heard the schools are either deaf, dumb and blind or are excellent.
Is your DD settling OK at the new school, or is she home-schooled?

Hippy it was me asking about testing dates. I'm trying to send you a subliminal message in this post, so if you wake up in the middle of the night driving a lorry it will be my fault.

SO still no flipping RTD/AF despite eating a pot of Agnus Castus, but do have sore boobs so must be round the corner.
Think I am coming to the conclusion that I will persevere for natural FET rather than start medicated. Will see when OV is due and if it fits around the clinic will just wait it out a bit longer.

Frosticle any further thoughts about the possibility of Clomid or using donor eggs after all the input?
There is a great Clomid thread on MN somewhere.

Hi all. I've been MIA lately. Not much going on except the usual, so nothing much to report.

I had acupuncture on Tuesday and my practictioner gave my "lady" points a good needling! I'm of the opinion that nothing is going to get my lady bits working while my LO is a dedicated boob muncher. After many restless nights I am thinking night weaning would be good, but TBH, I don't think I have the strength for it! And now my DH has gone off to the city for a few days R&R, so now's not the time!

Welcome to newcomers. Lia I know how awful bullying can be. I took my 9 YO out of school last year to spend a term homeschooling because she was so unhappy, and started showing serious anxiety issues. The term away was just what she needed, when she returned (I would have kept up the homweschooling, but she was keen to go back) she was put into another class. This year she seems more resilient, but it really bothers me that the bullies aren't dealt with more severely. In my experience, girls are much much worse than boys. They can be SO bitchy. I hope you can sort things out Lia, it is just not fair on your daughter.

Rowing, that naughty Aunty Flo, she just can't seem to get it right.Arrives uninvited,hangs around when she's not wanted, or doesn't turn up when you'd like her to!!COW!
I can understand you doing an unmedicated transfer, to me it seems less hard on the body with less chemicals around. Whatever you decide, stay positive.

Sometimes I feel like there is no way I'll get preggers again, with time ticking on, but I think I just have to try to be patient, and of course I am ever grateful for the beautiful family I have. I guess each day is one day closer to ovulating againI keep hoping I'll just get a pleasant surprise bfp one day!

Another gorgeous sunny day here.Maybe I'll take the kids somewhere for a picnic.Or get out into the garden and get dirty!

Waves to Alba, greetings.

Gum well done on home schooling, how great to be able to do that but how sad that you had to.

Hippy thanks - I am blessed with a totally amazing family.

all waves and hi and chocolate to All. Rowing I took her to the loo and washed her feet but TO BE HONEST I only did it because the other mum did and I realised if she went on the bouncy castle others would see her really blackened feet (it was that soil like mud and went right in between her toes). So basically if it were up to me she would be stuck like that! She is driving me potty, she is like the princess and the pea, her shoes and socks 'hurt' her, even when new. She is so sensitive YET incredibly hardy! She managed to fall over the other day in someone's garden (having just tucked her own arms into her sleeves so she could not break her fall, and she stood up and did not cry. My friend and I just felt amazed and I gave her a big hug! Lucky it was mostly on grass. So major falling over, no tears, socks on feet, big drama!

I am off to Spring Harvest from Tuesday next week for 6 days, back on Sunday 18th. So I doubt I will get on line much between Tuesday and Sunday but if I can I will check. It is almost impossible to go anywhere without Internet so I will be in touch. I'm just saying this so you can send your positive sticky messages, vibes and any prayers before Tuesday! (Jammy requests inc!)

Hi all,
last day of me 'oliday (sorry turned into Dick Van Dyck). It's lovely outside, but I still feel depressed, the last day!
Italian your DD sounds like such character with her painful socks. Funny how things they don't like 'hurt' them isn't it!

Gum, there you are! Go on, take the kids out and get muddy - what did you have in mind?

Still no AF here, so I'm going to try taking Dong Quai even though it bloats my tummy, also have been reading that lemon balm tea is good for amenorrhoea (absent periods). I think Lemon balm also makes you fall asleep. Hmm!
I have calculated that the last day of the irregular bleeding was around the 13th of March, is that significant? [head falls off]
Oh well, I'm sure I will have another period before I die of old age.

Hi all
Have had my acupuncture session this morning ... Mostly consultation before the pricks as was my first one.

On the plus side, she was very positive about the fact that I am able to get pregnant quickly at 42 (first try with DS when 39, first try at 41 with MMC1 and then after 3 cycles at 41 with MMC2) and that it should mean I am not on my last eggs just yet.

On the slightly negative side (though I have to believe she is right) I should abstain from TTC for a few months to try to get pg. Darn. She wants to teach me charting (oh bugger) and then pinpoint when good mucus might equal good egg. Her view is that I should allow my uterus a while to even itself out.

Ultimately it's a view, and I see no reason why it should be less correct than another. So for now I am putting faith in her and her experience (have had several recommendations for her).

Am going to the docs though to get progesterone levels checked and also definitive blood checks (my MW was less than convincing when I quizzed her on my last booking in bloods, query on b12 levels as family history of pernicious anaemia).

I have a slight headache after the session (maybe unrelated)..... so off to enjoy the sunshine and work out how I'm going to pay for the sessions.... (mind you I have now given up booze, that should do it ).

Sorry all me me me...

Love hearing about all the little people exploits. Tarra for now x

Just back marking my place. Been off moving house. Knackered. Will update soon.

jolly You are a good girl to stop ttc when told to. Not sure I would be so disciplined but then a) I think I'm older than you and b) You have had such a hard time with 2 MMC's and it might be a good idea I guess.

We will support you whatever you decide and hope it is the best decision for you.

Would love to hear more about this CM which tells you if it's a good egg or not. Is that really possible??? How fab if it is!

Still feeling quite positive but am no longer 99.9% sure I'm going to be preggers this month.

Mostly because a) that really is quite a high number and b) I have been getting endometriosis pain for the last couple of days and have no clue if that is a good sign or a bad sign. Obviously it's my hormones triggering it - but is it the right bloody hormones - who knows????

Reflexology tonight was very relaxing and enjoyable. She did say if I get another BFP she wants me to wait till after 12 weeks to have another session (because of my recent MC).

Good luck to all.

Italian Enjoy your break away and come back very soon and tell us how emerald and laurel are fairing.

Evening all, hope you're doing well. Just marking my place, catching up with everyone's news, and now off to bed. x

jollster hope you are feeling better and feeling positive about the whole ttc thing. I know it is not necessary to be positive but it helps. Do whatever you think is right. Now just my opinion but at the end of the day I think it is the sprm that gets us up duff and if you are not getting any of that magic ingredient in you then you 'aint gonna get up duff. Maybe it is right to take a break but other arguments would be to have sx every two days for as much of your month as you can to ensure the stuff is in the right place at the right time! Sorry, I am being nosy; I guess I'm not a fan of waiting! Are you in a clinic or doing all this yourself? Go for it with gusto whatever you do and all the best to you. If it works fab and if it doesn't and you have allowed yourself a 'period' of time to try it, no pun intended, then you can look to other ideas (I've never had acupuncture so can't comment on how it works but I know some people are big fans).

rowing I love your [head falls off] idea, it does make me chuckle, come on aunty Flo, pay a visit. I find all these euphemisms a bit odd, red tide of doom, curse, monthly, my favourite must be I've got the painters in! No, I haven't, I mean that is the one I like. Did I mention that DH wanted to do the decorating during our 2 ww!! I think I was thinking bllcks to that but it was not until I emailed someone about it that I realised how strongly I felt I did not want the house to smell of paint and me to be looking after DD while he did the decorating! So having the painters in is something I don?t want on any level - but I wish it for you, rowing! Hippy Thanks, hope you are feeling peaceful.

KiwiKat and ILoveGregoryHouse How's it going? What is this marking your place that people mention? I am a bit new to this mumsnet thingy!

Well, my boobs are bloomin' sore; yes I am turning into Dick van Dyke too! This is either a fab sigh that our treatment has worked or a bad sign that my boobs are defunct! We had quite a busy day at Legoland and I fell asleep on the way home (luckily I was not driving), DH put on some inspirational, lively church music and I just drifted off to sleep watching the sun set (once we finally exited Legoland car park). This 2 ww is now officially doing my head in and it is only fear of what I would find out that is stopping me poas straight away!

Hi everyone

Haven't been on here for quite a while and it's great to catch up with who's been up to what. Looks as if everyone has been really busy. Babydust to all those TTC and congrats to all who have got there since my lat visit.
AFM not a lot to say really, DH had another SA done and it revealed that his swimmers were no existent. So the journey has ended for us as IVF is not a possibility as my AMH is so low almost as low as the funds available to do it.
Hope everyone has a great weekend.

x