Continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Hello world!

lia meant to say, arsicles about BFN

hippy hope you get that reassuring appointment very soon, what with the very minor spotting and the discomfort sounds like thrush is most likely explanation. Sorry you've had the worry of it though.

Just wanted to say rowing we miss you, hope you're ok.

So pleased things going the right way Rainbow

Only managed to fit in two goes of swi, not a clue about ov, got second blood test when I get back home (am in Hungary) then we get the grand verdict from my lovely gp. Scary.

Good luck to all testing or, more to the point, rather trying not to

Hello.

The "ferning" microscope thingy is a little microscope like thiswww.menstruation.com.au/fertility/ovulitefertilitymicroscope.html

But I'm finding it very frustrating to use and although I'd love for it to work, I might have to toss it in the bin!I am spending far too much time looking at my saliva!

Opk's no help either, and temp still not rising, so despite thinking I had O pain yesterday, I think maybe still not yet....I know it seems silly all this monitoring, but it's partly because I find the swi really hard to manage during the busy working week (sad, I know)so at least if I had some idea I could sneak in a session here and there, IYKWIM?
Now I wish I'd hung onto my fertility monitor and not sold it on ebay! I'm now there looking to buy one.
Hippy, I hope you have some reassurance soon.
Rainbow, glad to hear things are going well so far.
So, Deige, any psychic feelings this month?
Lia, sorry about bfn.
Sorry, if I missed anyone, I read in a hurry this morning, with DS hassling me. I sometimes wonder why I want to go there again, and have doubts, mostly in the evenings when I am feeling exhausted, but I know, truly, that I want one more.
Have a good day.

Afternoon! Just a quickie for me as at work and students lurking round the door waiting for marks
Lia so sorry for BFN I think I will be sadly joining you as have had a bit of my usual pre-af spotting and feeling very periody this morning. Didn't really think it was my month, and will actually be releived when af turns up so I can stop obsessing and look forward to next month!
Hippy Hope you are ok and sitting in the GPs surgery getting reassurances as we speak x
Gumblossom I'm with you on the wavering commitment to ttc-ing another, esp in the evening as you say! I think this would be no.5 for you too, am I right? I also sold my fertility monitor on e-bay and am wishing I had not!
Jollster Think it may be just you and Pollyanna on Staurday test day the way things are going! Wishing you lots of luck x
Gonepearshaped good luck with the results!
I have to say I have been despairing a little over the stats for over-40s ttc-ing. I really hadn't realised the change in stats from late 30s to early 40s. Sorry if it's insensitive to mention it on this thread, I really had been clueless I think . Anyway, am going to be positive and order some of the super duper supplements I took after my mmc from Marilyn Glenville website so that I feel I am doing absolutely everything to maximise chances. Does anyone else's dh/dp take supplements, or are they a waste of time with men?

diege I won't be testing either - already got spotting here. grrr. only about day 24 I think so pretty pissed off with that. Also feeling pretty demoralised about how difficult it is, and have cancelled my acupuncture appointment tonight in protest so I can drink wine instead. (Diege what supplements do you take?).

So not my month either - it's down to you jollster.

Hoping everything is ok with you Hippy

Ah bummer Pollyanna We really are synchronised this month aren't we ??
I think from memory the supplements I (used to) take, and will be starting again when I get paid!, are the Fertility Plus ones. If you go onto the website for Marilyn Glenville, there's a link to the site you can order her supplements from. They're speficially targetted at women like us, and they certainly worked for me (well, I got pregnant, may have had nothing to do with them of course). Day 25 here, so not a great LP considering I ov day 14
Are you feeling the pressure yet Jollster???

Diege and Pollyanna... arsicles, sorry to hear you are not feeling positive, and things not looking good, but not definitely over yet maybe? Yes do feel MUCH more pressured now! Had to pee twice out and about this afternoon, very unusually, and have had no sign of spotting yet, which would be "normal" for me. BUT maybe the acupuncture and progesterone cream is working to make my cycles longer again. Still plan to test Sat if still no sign of RTD by then.

Hi to all x

Hi guys. I saw my lovely GP today. She said it sounds like a very minor amount of spotting but she is taking no chances - she got me booked in for TOMORROW for a viability scan. I was amazed cos i thought it was too early but she said they will scan if you're over 6 wks and I'll be 6 +3 tomorrow.

So i have a scan tomorrow and hopefully will find out if all is ok in there. The spotting is so slight that i am trying really hard to be optimistic (which works some of the time). See I told you she was a lovley GP. She even asked me to drop a note in to the surgery to let her know how we get on.

I will of course let you know how I get on as well. Please don't fret if I don't let you know immediately - hopefully I'll be busy dancing up and down the street.

GP has given me a pessary to treat the possible thrush but she wants me to wait til after the scan incase they do an internal.

Why are hugs so frowned upon on MN? - I don't get it!

Sorry to those of you who got BFN's or AF.

rowing we really need you back. i for one feel like our head girl has gone absent!
How are you???

gum I do think it's funny/ironic that you sold your monitor on ebay and then found yourself back there trying to buy one - how we change our minds about when we have finished our families

italian Glad to hear you and your hubbie arn't getting a divorce. i know what you mean, we get really fed up with them and keep mumbling to ourselves about how much better off we'd be alone and then we catch a glimpse in their face that they might be thinking the same thing and we realise that we love them and we 'want to be together!' Aint Love grand .

Much love to all.

Hippy great news about scan tomorrow - will be thinking of you xx

Hippy great news about scan tomorrow - will be thinking of you xx

So pleased I posted twice - never done that before (I MUST be pg....)

I hope you are preg jolly - good luck for saturdays test. I honestly just thought you really really meant it!!!

I meant to tell you jolly I had a dream where I was changing a baby's nappy and doing some washing - there was all sand in the clothes and I said to someone, "That's the only trouble with living this close to the sea - all the sand in the boy clothes!"

I do so hope that dream comes true .

ps. Trust me to dream about chores!

Yes, Hippy in the words of that advert from the '90's - 'We want to be together!'

Jollster all the best

Waves to all.

I don't normally write a proper old fashioned diary (just an electronic one) but today I wrote in my old fashioned pressed flower book that I was ready to look into adoption. I have worked out it may take us about 18 months and we might get an 18 month old, (or a two year old but we can't start yet anyway) so as my sis points out that means that the baby might be being born about now! How weird!

Good luck Hippy, fingers tightly crossed for you

Hi, off for my scan later. Feeling very negative and getting a sense of de ja vue!

Why did I want another baby - it is just too stressful. I know I'm gonna cry before I even get in the door.

Morning! Oh Hippy my love best of luck! The neg feeling is totally normal. When I went for my viability scan when pregnant after mmc I actually got off the scanning table and had to be talked back onto it by a very nice midwife . Have everything crossed for you xx
Italian That's so nice to read about you thinking so positively about adoption - my sister is waiting to be 'matched up',so I know it's stressful, but such an exciting outcome (a bit like pregnancy really!)Jollster the peeing sounds good, and I'm looking forward to Saturday already on your behalf! My af is actually due tomorrow, not today as I'd thought. Def on its way though - also POAS just now, and BFN, so no hope really.In fact, that's the time when I'm happy to do a test, when I've had spotting, just so that I can convince my mind away from an 'implantation' bleed scenario! Of course now I'm thinking that second wee of the day, only an hr after first wee may not be concentrated enough - how the mind plays tricks!
Off to get dd3 from her 'try out 'morning at school soon, but will check back obsessively for news from Hippy.

Hi. Well it was inconclusive I'm afraid. Sonogropher was a lovely girl (with a mouth full of braces!)

She could see a sac but nothing else. The sac is quite small and she said she wouldn't expect to see anything in a sac that small.

So basically it is either not viable and has stopped developing or just too early to see. I have to go back in 12 days and she wants me to remain positive. I asked if she had seen other people with this at 6 weeks who went on to be ok and she said - yes.

When I got upset my DH said she got upset as well - bless her.

I'm trying to stay positive but do think it isn't good news. She said even though I was charting when I ovulated I couldn't really know when i conceived and it could just be too early.

My friend at work saw only a sac at the first scan and then a baby with a heartbeat a week later.

I thought that at least today i would know what the score was - but alas I DON'T!!!! arrgghhh.

I'm off to bury my head in the strawberry patch - someone dig me up in 12 days please.

DH has been wonderful and very positive.

I did say to the lady, I guess i might just bleed more and lose it before the next scan and she said that was quite a negative way to look at it - yep that's me!

Thanks to you all. I know you'll be here for me over the next couple of weeks.

Oh bugger it Hippy , how frustrating, you must be up the wall with worry.I suppose all you can do now is wait it out. I'm sure that the next 12 days will drag, but we are all here for you.Are you able to take the thrush pessary now,and then see if it has an effect on the spotting?

I'm worried cos the sac was very small and she said I couln't be sure I was definitely 6 + 3 - but I'm charting for goodness sake so I ought to be pretty close.

Also, I have some mild cramps today like a pain in a line from my bits up to my bellybutton and as much as I try to convince myself it's just the little one settling in - it is unnerving me alot!

I had heard that early scans can be a worry cos they can cause more concern than re-assurance but I was just so pleased to be offered one that I didn't think beyond that.

Another friend at work said I should use the progesterone cream but i asked the sonographer if the lining was ok and she said 'fine' - so I feel if we do lose this one it wont be down to progesterone or lack of it it will just be bad luck with the embryo (again!!!).

Maybe I am just too old for all this and should have stoppped at my two boys??????

Yes diege I will take the pessary tonight and see if that makes any difference.

Hippy don't get too despondent just yet. Remember, your sonographer has seen the same thing many times, and with positive outcomes. Would it be worth posting in Pregnancy maybe to get some stories from people who might have been in the same situation?

Oh hippy huge huge hugs to you, How worrying and frustrating. I wish I could say it'll be ok but instead I'll just say that you know I have everything crossed for you. No real reason to believe it'll be a bad outcome.

Just spend the next 12 days n here moaning and wailing about time passing slowly.

Could you afford a private dcan in a week?

Meant to ask was it internal scan or abdominal?

New to this thread so hello :waves:

Not sure if I am going to be joining you yet, suppose I am thinking about it because I am reading it!!!

Hippy just wanted to tell you about an early scan experience I had. I had one (abdominal only) at what I thought was 6+5 and sonographer saw sac only and I was really nervous like you. I did double check the scan after I got home and realised that it did say gestational sac AND yolk sac present however there was no fetal pole. A week later at what I thought was 7+5 there was a heartbeat but only on internal scan, sonographer tried abdominal first and couldn't see a heartbeat que everyone panicking! Sonographer dated me at 6+4 putting me back 8 days, I could understand putting me back maybe 5 days at most as I was pretty adamant about ovulation, a futher two weeks on from that another scan confirmed size to be 8+4. A bit weird but sometimes there are just things we don't fully know about how the body works so I would try and stay positive and calm for now (not easy I know!). Good luck X