Continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Hello world!

LOL thanks hippy I can't change my name now I have my fifteen mins of fame by having discussion of the day, dontcha know! You are quite right about Googling and obsessing, I'm going to stick to Mumsnet and stop stressing myself out! x

Diege your poor friend! the chances are so low and to have two must've been soooo difficult for her

Oh by the way the lady at work who tried the sex twice a day method is not pregnant - so that isn't the way to do it (THANK GOD - You all cry).

Ha ha

I've told her to stick to every ohter day, have good quality sex (not quickies) and if possible she should have a big 'O' at the same time or after her DH (not before). That's my way. Sorry jolly I'm bringing down the tone again arn't I?????

I got this info from the great sperm race on tv. The reason for the good sex is cos the more the man enjoys it the more he will draw deep on his reserves (yuck - what a way to put it) and the reason for the female orgasm is 1) cos the muscle contractions give the sperm a leg up and 2) The orgasm changes the PH level of the lady bits and makes them more hospitable to sperm.

All makes sense when you look at it.

Are you all feeling sexy now???

Ooh Hippy you're doing it for me Glad that every other day is ok too - think I read that on Zita West website? , or was it someone else? Ans step away from conception indicators - the mws I interviewed for research wanted to do a ceremonial burning of them all, so hated were they!)
Hairy the poor friend sadly had 3 'regular' miscarriages after the MPs, and is now in her 50s. In the end they suggested to her it was something to do with her and her dh being 'incompatible' in the sperm/egg dept (ie, she was producing certain types of antibodies that fought off the sperm??). I know today they can do something about it, but not then. Very sad - she's a great friend to my 4 though
Just back from park so need to step into super-diege mode and get them fed, bathed and into bed for when me and dh's (well,my) tele-fest (oh and SW-out I) commences.

enjoy your tv-fest diege. Hippy loves the word 'fest' doesn't she??

I will be watching coro double (if I get the chance) and the final of flash forward.

Oh by the way, incase anyone says,"well your advise is lovely, Hippy, but what if the woman doesn't have a tendency towards the big 'O'?"

I just wanted to say that it is obviously not the be-all and end all. I have a friend in RL who never had one of those in her life and she has 4 kids!! So I mearly meant to assist not to INSIST - if you see what I mean.

Love to all.

Happy Bank Hols. xxx

diege ace post I've heard some of tht before and it deffo makes sense. Love the 'draw deep on his reserves' bit

Hairy I think I'm taking credit for Hippy's post there . I actually shuddered at the 'draw deep on reserves' bit

diege you're shuddering now - but you'll be glad when he does it !

This thread has turned quite naughty but nice....thanks for the info Hippy. Sorry for not name checking am feeling quite self indulgent - unusually long cycle 37 days!!!was kind of hoping for a postive outcome but no . After mc my cycles so far are not regular at all, anyone else experiencing this please?

hippy hippy HIPPY..... ..... you are a naughty one!! Hope you didn't mind me mentioning you on the MC thread, I didn't specifically reveal your news, but I did allude to it, suggesting people pop over here and read about it for themselves.

SWI must start tonight in the Jollster house I guess. CD8, and Ov usually CD12 ish.... Here we go again....

Wave to all. x

Morning All, all this talk of SWI has got me all inspired! Of course I'm off on my girl's weekend on cds 11,12,13. Gosh I hope I don't miss it this time! I'm not giving up the weekend away tho, the flight cost a small fortune (considering it is an hour flight - cost $350!), plus, can't wait to catch up with my Uni girlfriends, I haven't seen them for about three years and they are such lovely women.

Ok Diege, I'm going to dig up the list. Can everyone copy and paste, changing details?

Alfiemac Age 43 - TTC#3 DS's (3.8) - ICSI
Curlylox
Dechen age 45 TTC#3, DS 12 AID with Clomid), DD 9 (AID without Clomid)
Diege 40 ttc baby no.5
doubleshotlatte
Florencerusty 41 and trying for no5 (maybe no7 if you count sc) Day 14 of 2nd clomid cycle
Frosticle Age 45 - TTC#2 DD (4)currently investigating going to a fertility clinic
Ghenghismaam 46
gonepearshaped
Gumblossom 43, waiting to O,ttc baby no.6, DS(18)DS(16) DD(12)DD(9)DS(1)
Hairytriangle
Haystack
holeymoley 44, twin boys (4 years at the end May)via ICSI. Hoping for miracle conception.
Hopeful45 Age-45 - TTC#4 -DD(10);DD(6);DS(4)
Jollster 42 (DS 2 this month), 2 MMCs (Aug09/Mar10), currently waiting to TTC#2 on acupuncturist advice.
Laurasmiles 41 - TTC#3 DS(5) DD(3) (natural)
liahgen66
MrsFinklebum 47 and trying to conceive no. 4
Pinkpanettone nearly 45
Pollyanna -I'm 40 on 29th of May ttc no 6
Praggy Age 45 - TTC#1 after 3 m/c (natural conceptions)
Rainbowdays 42 (ds1-6,dd-5,ds2-2) 7m/c's, currently waiting to confirm a chemical pregnancy.
RowingBoat Age 43 (nearly wrote 53) TTC#2 2ww
SilverStuddedBlue 45 - TTC#2 DD (5)
SummerSky
Tetleytea Age 42 - TTC#2 DD (3.5)
Triggles
wemakebeautifulbabies
Woodelf still 46 TTC#2 DS(3) - natural conc.

Congrats to:
Alba, 41 PG #2
ElusiveMoose,
KiwiKat Age 44 - DS (3.7) IVF - Mar-10 pg#2
ILoveGregoryHouse Age 40 - TTC#4 DSx3
TheFatLadyScreams (TFLS) Age 41 - PG #1

hippychick66 Age- 43 -PG#3

Lurking encouragers : lindalinda, Italiangreyhound, stinkypinky

Ok Mystic Diege, who's next?

P.S: Frosticle - where are you? Haven't heard from you in ages.

Morning . Thanks for the list Gumblossom . I have no 'feelings' as yet, but then I suppose logically until the deeds are done iyswim then nothing will 'come through'...I managed to dissuade dh from 'the deed' last night - what with double corrie and BGT there really wasn't time... . He's on for tonight though (cd 10 and ov around cd 12/13).Not that I have any 'signs' as such, but hey you've got to start SWO somewhere!
Curlylox sorry for your disappointment - long cycles are a nightnare re: hopes. I do remember mine varying greatly in length after my mmc, but then they did settle back down.
Jollster I think we are very similar in cd days this month - am I a day ahead? How long are your cycles?
Technically on annual leave today and tomorrow, with older dds off school. Have done 2 hrs of marking so far though - at least done and out of the way now though so that we can enjoy the pissing it down summer weather!

Hi all,

Gum you sound so fired up, you good girl! It's great to have you back with your old fighting spirit. I think you are going to have a fantastic time away.
Weird, but true, I was thinking about Frosticle last night as well. Where are you Frost?

Hippy, thanks for the wince-fest about the 'reserves'. I'm glad to hear you are quite comfy here. I agree we do have more in common than just TTC, so I hope we do carry on chatting whatever.

Jollster get that Barry White music on it's that time again. (Try not to giggle at the Barry White though)

Curly that was a long cycle, I take AF has turned-up now?

Deige now then, stop deviating from the every other day plan, this will never do.
So is the last essay marked and has the last extension expired?

Hairy what a pain about the hpt. Do you have another appointment for bloods, to make sure it is on a downward trend?

Rainbow what's up!

So not much to report here. Have been drinking coffee again and feel completely normal. Just some mild PMS type symptoms, but that's all folks (in Porky Pig stylee)
Should be tidying the house before grandparents descend from their, very tidy, home. Not sure where to start really, so on the internet instead.
Oh and it's raining, but not cold and DS's pedal and chain came off his bike, in the rain, on the way to nursery...

Hi All,
Gum would love to join you in Perth for the weekend -I still miss it after 20 years
Diege I have a vision of you with remote control in hand occassionally turning off the TV and turning to DH...!!!
Rowing school saga so much more stressful than I ever could have imagined, I think a lot of it is the lack of control you have and also the sheer 'luck' aspect that pisses me right off. eg I have taken DS to a group in the village of which I am now committee chair, have given up loads of my time and resources to that community, he knows everyone in the reception - but a child who lives 50 m nearer and who has never set foot in the village gets a place. I quote said childs mother 'I'm so glad I got DS in to X, I couldn't have stood to be at the gates with the sort of people who go to Y' - which is where my DS is going. Great. Anyway rant over, DS is now ok with the idea and we'll see how it goes - if we don't have another bub we'll look at private from yr 2 if we can. BUT of COURSE we are going to have another....if AF appears (now 29 days post MC) ever again.....which leads me finally Curlylox yes it would seem I too am not having a normal cycle post MC, I think it's one of those thing it could be fine or could take months to get back to normal we should do a RTD dance

Have updated list....

Alfiemac Age 43 - TTC#3 DS's (3.8) - ICSI
Curlylox
Dechen age 45 TTC#3, DS 12 AID with Clomid), DD 9 (AID without Clomid)
Diege 40 ttc baby no.5
doubleshotlatte
Florencerusty 41 and trying for no5 (maybe no7 if you count sc) Day 14 of 2nd clomid cycle
Frosticle Age 45 - TTC#2 DD (4)currently investigating going to a fertility clinic
Ghenghismaam 46 TTC #2 (DS 4 - conceived naturally @41) MC 29 days ago waiting TTC after first AF post MC (and not wanting to be early pregnant in Greece on holiday in 10 days time!
gonepearshaped
Gumblossom 43, waiting to O,ttc baby no.6, DS(18)DS(16) DD(12)DD(9)DS(1)
Hairytriangle
Haystack
holeymoley 44, twin boys (4 years at the end May)via ICSI. Hoping for miracle conception.
Hopeful45 Age-45 - TTC#4 -DD(10);DD(6);DS(4)
Jollster 42 (DS 2 this month), 2 MMCs (Aug09/Mar10), currently waiting to TTC#2 on acupuncturist advice.
Laurasmiles 41 - TTC#3 DS(5) DD(3) (natural)
liahgen66
MrsFinklebum 47 and trying to conceive no. 4
Pinkpanettone nearly 45
Pollyanna -I'm 40 on 29th of May ttc no 6
Praggy Age 45 - TTC#1 after 3 m/c (natural conceptions)
Rainbowdays 42 (ds1-6,dd-5,ds2-2) 7m/c's, currently waiting to confirm a chemical pregnancy.
RowingBoat Age 43 (nearly wrote 53) TTC#2 2ww
SilverStuddedBlue 45 - TTC#2 DD (5)
SummerSky
Tetleytea Age 42 - TTC#2 DD (3.5)
Triggles
wemakebeautifulbabies
Woodelf still 46 TTC#2 DS(3) - natural conc.

Congrats to:
Alba, 41 PG #2
ElusiveMoose,
KiwiKat Age 44 - DS (3.7) IVF - Mar-10 pg#2
ILoveGregoryHouse Age 40 - TTC#4 DSx3
TheFatLadyScreams (TFLS) Age 41 - PG #1

hippychick66 Age- 43 -PG#3

Lurking encouragers : lindalinda, Italiangreyhound, stinkypinky

Have updated list....

Alfiemac Age 43 - TTC#3 DS's (3.8) - ICSI
Curlylox age 43 - TTC#3 DS(20) DD(5) MC(10wks) in Feb 2010 natural conception
Dechen age 45 TTC#3, DS 12 AID with Clomid), DD 9 (AID without Clomid)
Diege 40 ttc baby no.5
doubleshotlatte
Florencerusty 41 and trying for no5 (maybe no7 if you count sc) Day 14 of 2nd clomid cycle
Frosticle Age 45 - TTC#2 DD (4)currently investigating going to a fertility clinic
Ghenghismaam 46 TTC #2 (DS 4 - conceived naturally @41) MC 29 days ago waiting TTC after first AF post MC (and not wanting to be early pregnant in Greece on holiday in 10 days time!
gonepearshaped
Gumblossom 43, waiting to O,ttc baby no.6, DS(18)DS(16) DD(12)DD(9)DS(1)
Hairytriangle
Haystack
holeymoley 44, twin boys (4 years at the end May)via ICSI. Hoping for miracle conception.
Hopeful45 Age-45 - TTC#4 -DD(10);DD(6);DS(4)
Jollster 42 (DS 2 this month), 2 MMCs (Aug09/Mar10), currently waiting to TTC#2 on acupuncturist advice.
Laurasmiles 41 - TTC#3 DS(5) DD(3) (natural)
liahgen66
MrsFinklebum 47 and trying to conceive no. 4
Pinkpanettone nearly 45
Pollyanna -I'm 40 on 29th of May ttc no 6
Praggy Age 45 - TTC#1 after 3 m/c (natural conceptions)
Rainbowdays 42 (ds1-6,dd-5,ds2-2) 7m/c's, currently waiting to confirm a chemical pregnancy.
RowingBoat Age 43 (nearly wrote 53) TTC#2 2ww
SilverStuddedBlue 45 - TTC#2 DD (5)
SummerSky
Tetleytea Age 42 - TTC#2 DD (3.5)
Triggles
wemakebeautifulbabies
Woodelf still 46 TTC#2 DS(3) - natural conc.

Congrats to:
Alba, 41 PG #2
ElusiveMoose,
KiwiKat Age 44 - DS (3.7) IVF - Mar-10 pg#2
ILoveGregoryHouse Age 40 - TTC#4 DSx3
TheFatLadyScreams (TFLS) Age 41 - PG #1

hippychick66 Age- 43 -PG#3

Lurking encouragers : lindalinda, Italiangreyhound, stinkypinky

woops sorry for mixing names up up there

Am afraid to post it, but I do seem to be having another 'letup' - more a small trickle than a waterfall today.

Had (hopefully the last) blood test this morning, results at 3.30pm

Am back at work on a 'phased return' - so a couple of hours a day for the next two weeks will give me time to recover properly and get back into it.

Hope all are well!

x

Hi all,
Hairy, that sounds positive, but I won't say it too loudly. Quietly crossing fingers that this is nearing the end now.
After the last IVF I had an irregular bleed which went on for a while then turned into light spotting which went on for another week, but nothing much to speak of and after the next AF I was completely back to normal.
Hope the next blood is much lower.
Do you work full-time?

rowing yeah my hcg went up to 108 today so it's methotrexate for me tomorrow, i feel terrible as i dont want to do it but I have to.

Hi al,

Hairy what nightmare! I'm glad it is all going to be over soon. Is that the drug to induce miscarriage?
Have they offered a D&C?
Will be thinking of you, not that it's much help, but hope it all goes smoothly. Chin up!
[hug]

Yes, it induces miscarriage, although i have had two bleeds (current one is on day 13 of heavy bleeding) there seems to be something stubborn there.

It is not guaranteed to work, and it means I can't ttc for three months. i feel like total shit atm.

They have offered nothing but methotrexate.

Oh Hairy Sorry if there'ssome obvious reason, but can I be nosey and ask why you've not been offered a d&c? Just thinking of its advantages re: not having to wait to ttc?
Rowing must be a nerve-wracking week for you. Do you have to go in bloods on a certain day?
Genghis your vision of me and remote control is not far off the truth . Have been known to keep tv on in background,albeit with mute button on
Well,def SWI tonight- have EWM but neg on opk, so starting every other night from tonight.Pretty shattered, but I know that's no way to feel when gearing up to the act!

hairy - [hugs]] . so sorry you are having to go through this. I am surprised that they are pushing for the methotrexate. I know it is in case there is an ectopic, but it does seem like your body is trying to do the right thing. I am not sure what I would do in your situation, it is really hard. The medics will push for what is easiest and safest for them. But I have to say that I would be tempted to ask for another scan to look to see if they can see anything in the tubes or if it could be that your body is still trying to expell everything and that it might do so in the next few days. Arggg, so horrible for you.

my updating on the list:

Alfiemac Age 43 - TTC#3 DS's (3.8) - ICSI
Curlylox age 43 - TTC#3 DS(20) DD(5) MC(10wks) in Feb 2010 natural conception
Dechen age 45 TTC#3, DS 12 AID with Clomid), DD 9 (AID without Clomid)
Diege 40 ttc baby no.5
doubleshotlatte
Florencerusty 41 and trying for no5 (maybe no7 if you count sc) Day 14 of 2nd clomid cycle
Frosticle Age 45 - TTC#2 DD (4)currently investigating going to a fertility clinic
Ghenghismaam 46 TTC #2 (DS 4 - conceived naturally @41) MC 29 days ago waiting TTC after first AF post MC (and not wanting to be early pregnant in Greece on holiday in 10 days time!
gonepearshaped
Gumblossom 43, waiting to O,ttc baby no.6, DS(18)DS(16) DD(12)DD(9)DS(1)
Hairytriangle
Haystack
holeymoley 44, twin boys (4 years at the end May)via ICSI. Hoping for miracle conception.
Hopeful45 Age-45 - TTC#4 -DD(10);DD(6);DS(4)
Jollster 42 (DS 2 this month), 2 MMCs (Aug09/Mar10), currently waiting to TTC#2 on acupuncturist advice.
Laurasmiles 41 - TTC#3 DS(5) DD(3) (natural)
liahgen66
MrsFinklebum 47 and trying to conceive no. 4
Pinkpanettone nearly 45
Pollyanna -I'm 40 on 29th of May ttc no 6
Praggy Age 45 - TTC#1 after 3 m/c (natural conceptions)
Rainbowdays 42 (ds1-6,dd-5,ds2-2) 7m/c's, ignoring doc's telling her she is too old.
RowingBoat Age 43 (nearly wrote 53) TTC#2 2ww
SilverStuddedBlue 45 - TTC#2 DD (5)
SummerSky
Tetleytea Age 42 - TTC#2 DD (3.5)
Triggles
wemakebeautifulbabies
Woodelf still 46 TTC#2 DS(3) - natural conc.

Congrats to:
Alba, 41 PG #2
ElusiveMoose,
KiwiKat Age 44 - DS (3.7) IVF - Mar-10 pg#2
ILoveGregoryHouse Age 40 - TTC#4 DSx3
TheFatLadyScreams (TFLS) Age 41 - PG #1

hippychick66 Age- 43 -PG#3

Lurking encouragers : lindalinda, Italiangreyhound, stinkypinky

I had a recurrent miscarriage clinic appointment, turns out the results from the ERPC showed trisomy 22, hence the pregnancy was incompatable with life and was going to m/c no matter what. Then was told it will probrably happen again due to my age and rotten eggs (well I paraphrase slightly, but it was essentially what they said) and have now being discharged from the recurrent miscarriage clinic as they say they can do nothing else for me!!!!!!!

Hi all,

Hairy what a nightmare. I agree about asking for another scan to see if there is anything there or pushing for a D&C.

Rainbow that is rubbish about being discharged. Do you think there is any possibility of going private, to see if they agree about the progesterone and possibly prescribe.

Deige I had a horrible weekend, felt lousy and down, but things have settled now and I am in a state of calm acceptance. Don't think it has worked though, no symptoms at all now.
I have to go for bloods on Friday, at around 8am, but am away for the weekend so will have to try to phone the hospital from my mobile from a wood.
Will definitely test on Thursday morning, to ease the blow on Friday.

Rainbow poor you getting crap treatment like that - I've just had a quick look around and found this;
"If you have been told that a baby you miscarried had trisomy 22, rest assured that the miscarriage was not your fault and there was nothing you could have done to prevent it. Having one pregnancy affected by trisomy 22 does not mean that you have a higher risk of trisomy 22 in a future pregnancy. In most cases, trisomy 22 results from random problems in cell division and it doesn't recur."
It also says that 3-5% of all MC are due to this - you can't tell me they're all rotten eggs?
Hairy I'll just add a 'what a pile of shite for you' , try for 1 more scan if you can?

On a much lighter note...Hippy are you multitasking? From an email I got today.....
"This years Bath & West Show promises to be a Cracker. This week the FSB will have a superb Marquee at the Bath & West Show this year with the theme being the Celebration of Successful Somerset Businesses.
We will be featuring some of the winners of the Somerset Business Awards including Hilton Herbs and Hippychick."