Continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Hello world!

Waves hello to everyone.....sorry not had time to read all the posts. Not feeling great (actually feel like rusty is about to descend), probably hormones as hoping I will have my normal 28 day cycle am on cd19 and have ewcm. Want to have BFP soon but not sure if I can do the journey i.e. will the bean stick, test results etc aarrrrgggghhhh

hairy sorry you are having such a difficult time of it, I really hope you get the answers you need very soon.

Ooh hippy I am impressed at your doing the siren thing - nights like that I usually give up and fall asleep and if I don't dp gets an attack of 'performance anxiety'

Always lovely to hear those stories Linda very inspiring.

Rowing thinking of you and your lil icepops, can see why you are worried about the three versus two thing - there's always some new 'what if' lurking round the corner - not fair.

About the running, I don't use a training plan at the moment mainly cause Devon is so bloody hilly I'm still trying to get a respectable distance from home without having to call out the paramedics for a go on the oxygen and a lift home. I started with the Guardian's 0-5k then the 5-10k plans, found them pretty easy to follow and there's no jargon (I still have no idea how to time my splits). Are you still at it?

Right, I'm off to enjoy sole use of a posh hotel bathroom - don't worry I've got a room too

gonepearshape i want a hotel bathroom all to myself!!

Time your splits ?????

diege laughed my socks off at you thinking of me doing 'it' when you were doing 'it' - would you ever have believed it! .

Hi all,

Linda that is so touching about the teacher sharing those stories with you. I'm the eternal optimist and love to hear about how caring people can be to each other. Do feel inspired as well, especially about the lady at 48. Do stay please! Just pop in, you know, from time to time, when you feel like it.

Deige mmm walnut whips. Have you tried those ones from M&S, the ones with different flavours in a box. Nice! Timetabling sounds a riot. Are you good at that kind of thing?

Curly oh dear you are having some pre-pms symptoms, or pg symptoms of course. I can just see you marching into the midwifes office saying 'OK, can we just get on with this, I haven't got all day'. Hope tomorrow is a better day.

GPS poor old boys getting performance anxiety, I remember the days...
I am/was doing couch to 5k and was going to repeat week 2 for the next 3 months. Because it's easy. However, now I have a stinky cold thing from nursery and have put off my run until Thursday or Friday.
I have a dance class tomorrow, but not going if this headache hasn't lifted. Boo!
Does this happen to you when you start a fitness regime - either you catch a cold or you hurt your leg or something and sabotage the whole thing!!!??
Deven, hilly, yes and those high hedge things on the country roads are a bit of a safety hazard.

Hairy I think you should go back to the GP/Hospital to rule out an ectopic. It probably isn't, but there's no harm in checking. Sorry this is all dragging on so much for you. You are being very brave and postitive on here, but take it easy on yourself and get yourself a nice treat.

So we have a lib/con alliance then it seems. Hmm, wonder how long that is going to last before they all start scrapping over Europe/Public Services/Foreign Policy etc etc etc...

Hi everyone. So nice that we have a big bunch of loverly ladies in this thread. I told my son that you are my social group now that I'm at home with a LO and don't get out much. I'm so glad the internet was invented, I'd never have a social group like this without it.

Hairy I'm so sorry about this rolercoaster you are on, I really hope you'll have a definitive answer soon.

Rowing I'm excited for you, but understand your reservations about putting three embies in.

GPS I'm so envious of your posh hotel room.How lovely.It's been ages since I've done something like that!

Well, I had my abdominal ultrasound yesterday and it showed that there are no gallstones! Yippee, I am very pleased. He did see a couple of small polyps, so I ran home to google and found that they aren't much to worry about and that they may get inflamed from time to time which will explain my feeling sick and having tummy cramps. I'm glad there is an explanation that isn't too sinister.I'll speak to my gp about it on Friday. I'm really relieved that I won't have to have surgery.I'd like to keep my body intact as much as possible.

I was tempted to ask the ultrasonographer to go a bit further south and check out my ovaries, but I hadn't filled my bladder and I doubt he'd do it without the docs request!

I keep thinking that as time goes by I must be getting closer to having my post partum fertility return. There's not much else I can do.I did try vitex (agnus castus) for a while, maybe I should try again? What do you think?

I've got my feet up today and my DD1 at home to help me because I fear I have broken my toe! If it isn't broken then it is a bad sprain.It is very sore and I have made a splint and bandaged it. Honestly I couldn't be bothered going into the hospital which is 25 mins away from home and then wait for three hours to be told it just needed a splint (I googled that too!)I'll see my doc on Friday. I doubt there's anything that can be done. It sure is nice to have my DD's help. My DH has taken ten of his students on a camp to the big city (Perth) so isn't here for three days. Bad timing 'ey?

I called my mother last week to see if she'd give me a hand while my Dh is away but she declined as she has her craft group on Thurs and another grandchild's school assembly (takes about 15 mins) on Fri. I feel quite miffed about it because she just never helps us out, is always busy with my sibling's children. On Mother's Day she took my brother's dds so he and partner could have a few hours to themselves, but she can't give me hand when I need it.
It makes me sad that she doesn't have an interest in my lovely children. It always has to be on her terms....Sorry about the rant, I feel a bit down what with the broken toe and hubby away. My eldest son has lost his driver's license (silly, silly boy got caught one too many times!) so I'm having to run him into work and back everyday.He starts at 7.30 am!And we live 20 km from his job.
Okay, rant over, I wanted a big family, so now have to just get on with it!

Enough af my ramblings about me.

How are the preggie ladies feeling? I'm itching to join you!

Morning all - just a flying visit in between preparing our case for DS appeal on Fri - taking up every waking minute.
Feeling much more positive, might even do a bit of SWI over the weekend....
Hairy hope you are going to get a scan today and find out what's going on
Waves to all

Hi, feeling much better today, have decided against private scan (as they only do them on certain days, and you need a GP referral so would probably be no quicker)

Just really p*ssed off that it's taking so flipping long to find out why my HCG is going up and down. It's so low there is no pregnancy ongoing, it's just the wait to be sure it's all gone that is doing my head in!

Hi all,
Gum poor you with the sore toe. It sounds very stoic: splinting it up and getting on with things. You Rambo woman you!
And the drive everyday... poor you, doesn't seem to end, parenting.
On the embryos I want the hospital to return all three if they defrost because the odds are appalling for my age, just trying to increase our chances.
Not getting exited either, just don't want all the stress again.

Ghengis I did read about your appeal and (not knowing anything about the topic) it does seem that you have a strong case.
Very best of luck. Are you feeling ready for it?

Hairy good to hear you are feeling better. Hope this all resolves for you soon.

Still feeling a bit bleuch, but have over a week until the transfer so hopefully will be right as rain by then.

rowingboat cheers, sorry you are feeling bleurgh hope you are feeling better soon.

Thanks rowing, apologies in advance for being self indulgent but am freaking out a little (nothing to do with ttc) since noon today my left cheek felt tingly (like dentist's numbing injection wearing off)then spread to my ear, forehead then under my chin. The sensation keeps coming and going but more pronounced in my cheek. Have googled and boy I do not like what comes up.........has anyone experienced this please or tell me I'm going to be ok PLEASE???

Hi all,

Hairy thank you for your kind wishes! Hope you are feeling a bit better tonight.

Curly not sure about that, could it be a trapped nerve, or an ear infection or even a pulled muscle in your neck. It actually sounds a bit like an allergic reaction, but funny being on one side only.
Could you try an anti-histamine to see if it helps?
That area of your face is all quite inter-linked, so that a toothache can feel like an earache and a sinus infection can feel like a toothache - have had recent problems in this area. Ibuprofen works on the trigeminal nerve (sp?)which causes sensation in that area, so if it is painful that should help a bit.
Get yourself off to the docs in the morning though. Hope you feel better soon.

Hello everyone I haven't been on for an age and not sure if anyone remembers me but I've just read through all the posts on this new thread to catch up and particulary wanted to say how sad I am to hear about your loss Ghengis and Hairy and the others who have been through it too. Such a horrid time I do hope you are coping. It's nice to know there are these lovely ladies like a soft safety net who are always there and care. (I obviously don't count myself as I've been so absent)
In my pathetic defence I have just moved house and didn't have any internet for a long time and am still totally surrounded by boxes but at least the internet is working.

Very belated congrats to Kiwi,Alba and everyone else who is preganant and of course TFLS especially about the tri test results.
Rowing I feel like you've become the matriarch of the thread especially with all your great advice (are you secretly a Dr?)I will probably be as flaky as ever and not post very often but I do wish you all the very best. It is a lovely commuinity. Just goes to show how long I've not posted I can't get the password or name right!

Hug to Curlylox

Just popping in to say I went back to hospital tonight - pelvic exam, blood test, urine etc and WOOOHOOO I am being scanned at 11.30 tomorrow!

At flipping last!

Dr says could be ectopic and if so I'll need Methotrexate, but i'll worry about that after they've established wtf is going on!

Night night all and see you all tomorrow, when hopefully my rollercoaster journey will end up with some conclusive evidence of something!!

xx

Summmmmerrrrr you're back! Where have you moved to - near DD school? Be great to catch up in RL again!
Hairy will be thinking of you whilst I am having a sneaky retail therapy boost - returning my flip flops I treated myself too because they look good but are bloody agony to walk in! So will swap for nice jacket
Curly I had completely random facial agony on Tues am, had to go to dentist and have got root canal booked in for next week get it checked out asap, could just be an ear infection there's a lot of it about at the mo.
Rowing hope you're feeling less bleurgh, we are almost ready for the appeal - feels like a scary job interview....
Hope everyone else ok - Hippy are you being a siren still??

Hi all,

Summer don't worry about popping in and out of the forum, everyone does that. You always end up starting every post with 'I'm sorry I've been away' or something like that.
I'm so not a doctor - don't really like vomit, blood or any of that kind of thing, so probably not the job for me.
How about tipping all of the boxes out into a giant heap in middle of the floor and burning it? Best not though!

Hairy, I think you have done the right thing, if it is ectopic you definitely need to have attention to protect yourself. I'm relieved you are now being given proper treatment.
Hope it all goes smoothly, you sound very calm, doing a great job!{{{{Hug}}}}

Ghengis aah that's a shame about the flip flops. I have a couple of pairs of Ecco flip-flops, kind of like Scholls, but very comfy.
One of my friends appealed for a place last year (although this school was chokka, so not like you). She went in alone and it was a panel, so she said she kind of turned into Porky Pig and started going 'bbbb dddd bbbb'. However, she also said they were so nice and kind and did their best to put her at her ease that she got through it in one piece, despite herself.
You sound as if you are doing lots of research and have an excellent case.
When is it?

Not much going on here, still bit bunged-up, but think I might try an anti-histamine.
We are off (second attempt with correct documentation this time_) to open a savings account for DS this afternoon, you should have seen their faces when we went up with the contents of a piggy bank. Come on! It is a CHILD'S account, it's not going to be made up of £50 notes now is it?!?!

Hello . I have no hope of catching up, but wanted to pop in and say hi. Work has been a bit overwhelming, and have been doing very long days.Never realised dropping to 4 days a week would mean doing more than I was before... Bet I'm not the first person that's happened to though, and all for 20% less pay . Ok, rant over!

Hairy that is great news about the scan. Best of luck for tomorrow and that you get some answers xx
Genghis good luck for the appeal; great advice there from Rowing! Hippy are we you done for this month now then??? I think I certainly am, and shall we say dh is 'flagging' a little and will be grateful to be put to pasture for a while I am determined not to symptom hunt this month and try to think of something nice to do if af does turn up.
Gumblossom I share your pain mother-wise. Yours sounds very like mine and rarely visits, though she's only 40 mins away. There's always somthing more important going on (hair appointment, waiting in for a parcel...) I still haven;t got over her not coming over to look after dd1 when I went into labour with dd2 because she had arranged to meet a friend for lunch.. Hope you manaage with your toe - as other have said, you do sound very stoic
Summer nice to meet you . I gather you're an old timer on the thread? (meant in the nicest possible way of course )
Curly I am a little bit 'doctory' work-wise, and I'd say that did indeed sound like a trapped nerve. Hope you get some answers and feel better soon.
Hello to everyone else I've missed. Cd 16 here and feeling a bit relieved that the SWI is over (we call it 'goff-ing' on the wagon thread I'm on...can you work it out? ?? Never baby dust

summer welcome back. Not sure if i know you from before but you are, of course, welcome to pop in and out as you please .

gum sorry to hear about the problems with your mum. it can be very upsetting when our parents don't behave the way we would like them to. You sound like you're having a crap time all round at the moment.

hairy thinking of you. Let us know how the scan goes. You are remarkably good natured about all this - I'd be blubbing and ranting in equal measures.

genghis I was a sex siren again last night - "smokin', somebody stop me please!"

rowing can't believe in a week you might have some embies in there - wow. Try to get lots of rest so you feel tickety boo for the FET.

diege think we have done the dead at the right time- so can probably stop now but might do 1 more for luck .

Last night whilst I was in the middle of it all I had pains on my right side. I think they were ovulation pains (which does fit with my cycle day), that was shortly before the newest troops were in place. So that would be great timing, wouldn't it! Also the pains were on my right hand side (consultant said I had some endo scarring on the left side so always favour the right). So all looks good. Just gotta sit back and wait to see what goes on. Like you diege, I am going to try really hard not to symptom spot and will NOT be testing early. Yeah, good luck with that Hippy .

curly no idea at all about the nerve pain but can see why you are worried. Please go see your GP and then let us know that you're ok.

italian Hope you are ok. Pop in and see us soon.

linda How are you doing? I am so touched that you love me and want to be my friend in RL. I'm not like this at all in RL though - i'm a right old bitch really .

Anyone else who i have forgotten, I'm sorry - i didn't mean it!

• just so happy that we did 'it' at the right time and that I had ovulation pain - Is this the same woman who was miserable as sin a couple of weeks ago - hormones are funny things huh.

Hee hee Hippy yes that does sound good about the ov pain. I was going to leave it this month, but seeming as you're going to have one more go I feel I should too . I think it'll be Friday for us, and then that's it, save the odd 'dummy' shag that I'll throw in just to show I not just in it for the prize say middle of next week

hippy - keep going with the troops, ov pain can occur up to five days before ov!!!! However I am sure you got perfect timing last night, but you can never be too careful!!! And I am sure your dh won't complain about extra duty!!!

deige - yep less days definitely means more work!

hairy - hope that the scan gives answers... not that they normally do, but at least you will have a bit more information. will they give you Methotrexate as a precaution or only if they see something in a tube? I hope you get some answers.

curly - I haven't a clue about your cheek thing, but sure enough any doctor would say it is a virus!!!

Well I am only whispering it but lets just say I need to know whether I should be continuing with the co-enzyme q10 or not..... it is early days, very early days!

Thanks all for your lovely supportive messages - just got back from scan and seeing doctor!

HCG levels last night 100 (up from 75 on Monday - WTF!) quickest and largest rise when they should really be decreasing

Scan showed : 2 x healthy ovaries, 1x small fibroid at back wall of womb (knew about this already). ?small 'blip' in womb - could be retained product, right hand ovary has a small cyst which is normal after ovulation (apparently they can form and go away of their own accord).

Dr says there is nothing dangerous that they can see, no sign of ectopic pregnancy, that I need HCG monitored every forty eight hours, that it could be a very early viable pregnancy but until hcg levels get to 1,000 they can't see, but most likely not.

Ho hum, the only option is to keep monitoring me and sit and wait.

Feels strange to be a medical anomole!

Hope you're all keeping well x

Ooh Hairy how do you feel about it all? Good that all seems well, but you're still really in limbo I suppose.
Rainbow did I detect from your post that your Have News??? ????

OMG rainbow Are you saying what I think you're saying?? You weren't even sure if you'd given it your best efforts this month. You certainly have no probs getting up-duffed - lets hope this one is a sticker. Will you get straight to the GP to see what you can do to make sure it stays put or have you been there done that so many times before. Whispering - good luck lovie.

I will keep going with the sex siren thing until my temp shift - just incase the ov pain was early (or not ov pain at all). I did get a faint pos on an OPK as well so hoping all is going to plan.

hairy you have the patients of a saint my dear. I'd be climbing the walls by now. I really hope this turns out ok for you.

hairy - glad to hear that they are not concerned that it is an ectopic. I have been there / done that with a couple of my pregnancies, not fun. Slow rising hcg can occur in a normal pregnancy, even though it is more indicative of a non-viable pregnancy. So just keep hoping. Last year, I was having blood tests every 2 days to see hcg increasing, then scans, then blood tests again to watch the hcg going down, and with one or my pregnancies, it took a month for the hcg to go from 1000 to zero..... should have taking a little over a week, unfortunately I reabsorbed everything rather than passing it. not fun. I hope you have a happy ending to your slow-rising hcg levels.

hippy and diege- yep you are guessing right . Since I entered my 40's it only takes dh being in the same room as me one night to get the result. With my children it took months, now it is easy to get two lines on a stick, but seemingly impossible to keep them there for as long as they should be. I just have to keep hoping "perhaps this time" .

Diege and hippy - well, I feel a whole lot better now they've looked at my insides! One of my favorite mottos is a quote from Mark Twain 'I've been through a lot of things in life, and some of them have actually happened' - I try hard not to worry about what I can't change. At leaste now I know there's nothing dangerous going on, and as I've said before, it's a real bonus knowing that at 42 I can actually get pegnant (even if my body hasn't 'hung on to it' this time).

thanks rainbowdays - sorry to hear about your troubles, and thank you for your words of hope. Ectopic isn't completely elmiminated from the realms of possibilities, but there are no signs at the moment, and no signs of any unwanted fluid or anything in the tubes.

I'm kinda glad they saw both ovaries - at my scan for fibroids they only saw one (but thought the other might be hiding) LOL x