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Hello world!

Hi all,

Hairy there you go! It's been ages, good to see you
Onwards and upwards then!

Deige me too on the political leaning. We moved from dahn Sarf when I was still at school and now live in Scotland. I was quite pleased that most of Scotland and managed to covey my sympathies quite nicely.
Are you students in a frenzy during this period. Or have they all buttered off now exams are over?
Not fit no! Just trying and finding it all a bit too tiring. Wah!
Good luck tonight! Don't have a hooge row or anything like that. (recommned not letting your DH see your comments about tea and cream egg)

Must go and do something it's blooming 3:20 and still in pyjamas.

LOL Rowing def agree about the cream egg and tea comment - now that would be hard to explain away . Know what you mean about rows too - been there for sure
Students have political theory exam in a week's time, so going through that very shall we say 'needy' stage (and so they should as there are a few heading towards the August re-sit...)
Hope everyone is ok - oh and saw The Apprentice is back on on Wed - amyone else a fan? (after The Peep Show and Waterloo Road it's my favourite programme - I do like my telly )

Morning Ladies. It is mother's day in Austalia, so I'm sitting in bed with tea and toast (my favourite breakfast!) with the lap-top. Bliss

However I have woken up feeling a bit off colour - a bit nauseous, so I might even go p.o.a.s(pee on a stick) just in case that's the reason I feel off. Probably isn't, but what the heck, I need to pee...Nah...it's negative, but I kind of expected that. I'm wondering if it's the "gallstones"(which is yet to be diagnosed - I have an ultrasound on Tuesday)that are making me feel bad. Time will tell, and in the meantime I shall hang out in my bed and be waited on!

Diege, I know what you mean about ttc sex.Sometimes it does get a bit like a chore.But I just try to think about the promise of the end result (the baby, not the orgasm!) and that helps!

Well, that's all folks.Enjoy your weekend.

Hello Gumblossom and Happy Mother's Day Hope you got to enjoy your lie-in - shame about the BFN
Off to shops with ds now, dh taking dds to park. Summer has disappeared before it's started in this neck of the woods!
Hope everyone's enjoying their Sundays

hello everyone
Sorry been MIA, completely exhausted. Which I'm sure is a good sign so I'm trying not to complain, and DH and I currently managing enough excuses to throw my mother (who is staying with us for another couple of weeks yet) off the scent... Have been lurking though and trying to keep up with all your news...

Happy mother's day Gum Linda that's a brave decision you've made, I hope you've made your peace with it and you're feeling good about it.

Hairy what a rollercoaster, not sure I could have held it together through all that, I got so excited and then so sad for you

Hippy is it time to get the troops in place yet? I have my fingers very very tightly crossed for you this month

Rowing you are so wonderfully good humoured and no doubt getting somewhat nervous for your next try (sorry, not up on all the assisted conception lingo, so 'try' is as good as I can describe it all) what's your secret to keeping it together?

Diege fingers crossed for you this month too... I can see a flurry of BFPs on the way. So, what's going to happen next on the hung parliament saga -- a vote of no confidence and another election before the end of the year?

Hi GPS you don't sound like a spoiled brat at all your comment about M&S made me chuckle. I used to live abroad and I remember feeling just the same way . Hope we finally get some summer weather soon and you may feel a little better about being back in blighty?

Genghis I had the same thing as you, a few days post MC the hormone thing felt just the same as post birth, but without the prize of the gorgeous baby - it's horrible isn't it. I still take spatone every day (similar to floradix I think), I'm sure it helped me get back to normal pretty quickly.

Yay on the house sale Jollster, fantastic news. Hope it's all going through nice and quickly.

Lia you're very quiet again -- hope not feeling down, just very busy with RL...

ILGH and Kiwi if you're still popping in, hope you're both doing really well. Must be 12 week scan very soon Kiwi?

Waves to everyone else and hello to new people - this is a really lovely thread to be on.

Oh, and good news on my antiphospholipids blood test -- cheaper than I had been told (still £80 but worth it for peace of mind) and came back very definitely negative. So no need for aspirin, and I just have to hope that this little bean has all its chromosomes in the right place, rest up when I can and cross my fingers

Alba, glad the test results were negative.
Sorry to hear you are exhausted, but that's probably a good sign that your body is doing its good works! How far along are you?

I'm feeling better today.It is weird, the way I feel sick then am fine the next day. I had blood taken on Saturday, I just hope that combined with tomorrow's ultrasound can tell me what's up.I hope it s nothing, but then again would like an explanation for feeling poorly!

My 20 month old son just won't let me spend time on the computer.It has been impossible lately, he is into everything....little destructo boy!

I booked flights to go to my girl's weekend - will take Charlie(it is too stressful to wean him completely - I think I'm resigned to just trying to cut back). I'm looking forward to catching up with my old friends, even if it means having a toddler along. At least there will be lots of capable hands to help out with him.

Good luck everyone where ever you may be in the cycle or process...

Lindalinda sorry to hear about your decision but if it is right for you then I wish you all the very best with it. You are right to concentrate on the wonderful children you already have. Will you stick around for a bit? Wanted to get to know a pushy ex-journalist! What is a PITA?? Thinking of you.

Doubleshotlatte I agree better to wait 6 months and that will help me know where I am in all those!

Hippy how is it going?

Curlylox welcome back.

Triggles welcome. I would not be at all sad to get pregnant while on the adoption route as you did. I feel whatever will be will be!

Liahgen66 How?s it going? I am so sorry to hear how you feel about the miscarriage still. I just hope that the future will hold some nice things for you.

Hairytriangle so sorry. The bead thing is a good idea. For my miscarriage a few years back I wrote in the miscarriage book at the hospital but if I want to read it I have to go to the hospital. Other people sometimes plant a flower or tree; you just have to be careful that you don?t plant it in your garden where it can wither or if you move etc! I think planting a tree in a wood is a nice idea and you can visit it when you like. Anyway, thinking of you.

Gum Thanks for the strawberry alcoholic drink! Yum.

MrsFinlebum& welcome.

Alba, ILGH, TFLS, Rowing, Diege, Jollster and Gonepearshaped Hi all. Holeymoley hi, I know what you mean, my DH is not at all keen on more treatment and HM and Kiwi also posted this message below on assisted conception so stop reading now!

Well, me, up and down, back and forth like a dunny door in a gale! I have found it hard and easy in equal measure. Went for a walk today and the laurel bushes were in blossom, I picked some blossom and thought of my embies (I named Emerald and Laurel). Maybe naming them is not such a good idea! Anyway, I am afraid my diet has gone out the window, which is annoying as I will need to lose weight to adopt. Thinking maybe some miracle will happen naturally after all these years, who knows! It is a good idea for the adoption services to make us wait six months as I think it does take that kind of time for it all to sink in. To compliment this my periods have gone BALISTIC and I am moody as can be, so I am now taking Evening Primrose Oil tablets to ensure DH and I can stay friends!

Love to all, any prayers out there, shoot up an arrow prayer for me and DH, I am not being very nice to him when moody, and a miracle surprise in 9 months would not go a miss!

Just to be clear not saying everyone should concentrate on what they have and not plan for others, just saying LindaLinda has decided that so want to support her.

Love to all.

Rowing Good luck with the scans and tests today hope everything is just right. I've just started running again too, have to get up a thoroughly ungodly hour to fit it in before work but I managed to put on a whole stone in the palaver of moving so now have to get it all off again. Good luck with the scans and tests today. BTW We're in Devon.

Well done hairy go for it!

Hi, well I had blood tests on Sat, and got the results this morning - they are up to 75

so had more bloods today and will get results tomorrow, the nice nurse will talk me through whatever they say in the morning - she said they are so low that it's not likely to be a viable pg, but that they will scan soon if I have any more rises.

It's very upsetting to keep getting 'it's gone up' 'it's gone down' but at least I have not got any hope left of a positive outcome - it's just about seeing it through now

hairy So sorry to hear that you're having such a hard time of it. I can't imagine how it must feel to keep thinking, "maybe....."

As for me - I am slowly going nuts..

Trying to get my DS's to go to sleep so that i can SWI. I am very tired and would much rather just watch some nonsense on the tv and then nod off. And instead I am trying to get a 7 & 10 year old to go to sleep so that I can seduce my hubbie cos I think I am going to ovulate in the next couple of days. You have to laugh - don't you??????

Sorry, am too tired to name check everyone (and to busy trying to think sexy thoughts ).

Glad to hear all is ok with you Alba - I hope you are right about it being my month.

One more quick comment before I become a sex siren.

linda Your message was so emotional. I hope whatever happens for you over the next couple of months - that you feel calm and as happy as you can.

Enjoy your 3 little monkeys. I totally understand you not wanting to have lost more than you kept (I'm a bit like that about numbers too.) Sending all my love. Keep us informed of how you are, unless of course you find this thread too hard to stick with. (If that's the case, we will understand .

Hi all, I will try to catch up with posts in a bit.

Rowing - quick question for you, I think it was you that suggested the co-enzyme Q10 to me, if so, could you tell me what happens if you get a positive test, do you stop taking it, or continue taking it through the whole pregnancy??? Thank you!

Hi all,
sorry been at work and busy the past couple of days.

Deige I can imagine your students do become needy at this time of the year. I was probably one of 'those' when I was a student. You would have hid from me in the refectory.
Hope the bding plans went smoothly and you didn't end up planning a tutorial or something or just buy a box of cream eggs.

Italian nice to see you on here. Perfect chance to offload for you, it sounds as if you are having lots of, perfectly normal, reponses to your decision about assisted conception. On top of that, it does take a couple of months to get back to normal hormone-wise. That is one of the reasons this FET has taken a while, I couldn't seem to get my cycle back to normal. Hope you are through AF and out the other side soon.

Rainbow, oo'er I don't want to say what to do about the Q10. It was certainly one of the supplements recommended by Zita West so it might say on her websit. It's not a hormone altering supplement, more of an 'efficiency improving' type of thing, so can't see why you couldn't take it.
Must check that out though, will report back soon sir!

Linda thank you for the babydust and the very kind thoughts.

GPS good for you on the running. No wonder you are finding it hard in the UK, you must be exhausted.
How is the running going, do you have a plan?

Hairy I'm sorry to hear the uncertainty is continuing. Hope it is all cleared up ASAP, don't want to put yourself at any risk.

Hippy good luck with the seduction. Could you combine the wathing TV and bding? I mean over your DH's shoulder, or some kind of mirrror contraption?

Alba I am laughing at your cunning deception of the mother. I take you are having to pretend you have some kind of skin disorder or something, to cover for all the doctor's appointments.
Great news on the blood tests, that's one less thing to worry about.

Gum that sounds lovely: the girl's trip. Charlie will be spoiled rotten won't he!

I hope I havent' missed anyone out.
Curly and Trig are you still there?

My news is that I went for the scan yesterday and everything was fine, no cysts, all normal and healthy. I had a blood test, but they won't contact with the results unless there is a problem.
So the next stage is to go in next week for scans, probably every day, until ovulation and if that is day 14 then most likely I will be in on the 22nd for the transfer.
We had a bit of a 'discussion' about the situation if all three defrosted successfully, because this clinic doesn't put back more than two. So have left that floating for now.
Most likely thing is that they won't all defrost so probably not going to be an issue, but I would be gutted if they did and the clinic insisted on 2.

rainbow, thanks for the reminder, nearly forgot to take my lunchtime multivits (Zita, 3 per day, it's a challenge not to forget them...)

Anyway - checked the label (they're the Zita West first trimester multi-vits), they have 10mg per day Coenzyme Q10 - hope that helps!

Sorry short post, must get back to work, waves to all, and just quickly -- hope those troops are in place Hippy! Want you to join me this month... and rowing, gosh, scans everyday, IVF really is intensive monitoring isn't it? Good that it's all going well, not long now! But would you seriously want to consider triplets? I'm exhausted even thinking about that prospect...

I just summoned up the courage to book an 8 week scan for 2 weeks time (shortly after the point at which it all began going wrong before). So nervous...

rowing All sounds very exciting. Wow just think pretty soon those little embies will be all defrosted and popped in - I really hope at least one decided to hang around. 3??????!!!!!

alba troops in place sir (salutes). Off for reflexology tonight - she is going to do something extra special for me cos I should be due to ovulate soon (not sure what it is but ho hum sure it will be fab).

I will probably then get a few more re-inforcements in place over the next couple of days, just to be sure.

Would love to join you alba. I hope you are soon way past the stage where things went wrong last time - that is something I am not looking forward to if these troops do the trick. It must be so scary but I'm keeping fingers crossed that it will all be fine for you this time - just look at TFLS - she got past the point where the last one went wrong and is now storming ahead.

linda You would not be 'blocking the board' as you put it, if you popped in. I would call it more popping in for coffee with your friends. And by the way - YOU are also a very brave lady. xxx

italian PITA = Pain in the arse. That's my guess.

Hi all,

Alba thanks for checking. I thought it would be OK to take them.
I definitely don't want triplets! , but the odds aren't good for even one taking at my age and on a frozen cycle.
Generally they return two embryos, but when you are over forty they can return three because the odds against the embryos being genetically normal are lower. I think it is one in ten are good or something, so more embryos is increasing the odds of success. Two of the embryos them were developing quite slowly and wouldn't be of the best quality. I'm not sure of the odds on this, but we were only give 12% chance with a fresh IVF and frozen has a lower chance of success.

Hippy oh how lovely, reflexology. Now don't fall asleep.

linda If you live in the Isle of wight I will defo move to be your neighbour! Thanks for the positive stories. How stratnge that the teacher started crying.

I had my DS No.2 parents eve not long after my loss and we started talking about DS's probable dyslexia and I tried to say that I worried how he would keep up and ended up blubbing all over the teacher, fortunately she is lovely and I got through it!

rowing Can't wait to hear about the frozen transfer (I know that's not the technical term for it). I will try not to fall asleep - hate it when that happens!

Linda you are incredibly inspiring!

Hello all.

My saga continues, yesterdays HCG was 77 (up 2).

got a blood test on MOnday and a scan provisionally booked for Tuesday but quite honestly Im thinking about blowing some £ on a private scan cos I'm fed up of waiting around not knowing what the heck is going on.

I feel a bit sick and have a bit of a funny sensation in my abdomen, which feels a bit swolen. after having been well for over a week after my MC dunno if I should go up to the hospital again or not.

hairy what a horrid first experience of pregnancy you're having. I hope you get an answer soon. Fingers crossed that it could still work out ok.

Evening! Have been out all day interviewing midwives as part of the research I'm conducting, and I am totally whacked, but wanted to pop in and say hello .
Hippy I too is a sex siren . YOur post made me laugh as I read it just as dh was 'getting ready' upstairs shall we say, as ovulation time here too.... If it doesn't sound too strange I did give you a passing thought as business was commencing . Sorry, that does sound 'too strange'
Rowing that is good news about your scan, though quite a hefty schedule you have to fit into. Really sending you all the best xx Oh and there are always cream eggs in this house (well, when they're in the shops, otherwise walnut whips have to suffice!)
Alba all sounding good! I took the ZW supplements for a few months after my mc and for the first 3 weeks of pregnancy - I intended keeping going with them, but they are like horse pills and when the HG kicked in they may as well have been pillars of stone for the chance I had swallowing them 3 times a day!
Hairy what a saga ...at least you have enough info' to sort of resign yourself to the worst (if that doesn't sound too insensitive) but at the same time I can see you need to have some end to the whole thing so you can focus on the future. Do you think the private scan you mention might give you answers a bit quicker?
Linda it's amazing how many people have had such sadness in their lives, and yet mc is still such a difficult thing to talk about.I am only 39 (40 in 16 days, eek!)and have little experience of what you've gone through but am humbled by your story. As others have said - please stick around
Right, better get the bottles done then back to spreadsheets (timetabling this time!)Dh has a night off, back on duties tomorrow