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Hello world!

Hi all,

Alba what a rotten morning. Some GPs should be demoted to making tea, they really are appalling and playing peoples' heads like that it's just not on! I hope your regular GP is much better. I'm surprised you didn't join the small child and have a tantrum as well, I would have felt like it. Huuuuuge Huuug!!

Gum I know somebody who went to a Norwegian clinic for IVF and she raved about it. I hear clinics in Finland and Sweden are also very good. Hope those twinges are a good sign.

Italian I checked the Czech clinic and they confirmed what you thought, they have anonymity laws which prevent the disclosure of the identity of the donor.
Embryo adoption is not very well organised in the UK and I was advised by a lady at the HFEA to contact the clinics directly because they would be able to broker something between me and the couple who had the 'extra' embryos. There is also the snowflake trust in the US where they match embryos to adopters, but I'm not sure if they accept foreign nationals.
I have some other info that I can send you if you email.

Diege isn't it great to be able to have a whole series to watch or at least 3 or 4 episodes at once! Luxurious. You take it easy until AF bggrs off.

Hippy I did do a double take when I read your post. How are the symptoms today?
I've been running around all morning, finally home and a shop is about to be delivered, so trying to have a bijou breakette.

Thanks rowing, but it gets better than that... The lab didn't do the test. Turned down on insufficient mc's. So frustrating after I had confidently put last month's early mc down to bad luck as I'd been so sure I'd checked everything.
Having the blood test done privately tomorrow, organised entirely myself after picking up a form from the GP. Anyone else thinking about antiphospholipid antibody test I can now tell you Nuffield health charge £108 for it. I should have been arranging this 6 weeks ago. Dr says not to take baby aspirin unless indicated so I'm hoping I get the results before I'm 7.5 weeks (when we lost first miscarried little bean).
Not a hope of early reassurance scan.
Will probably make an appointment to check urine sample test results from today as unless I'm standing next to GP looking at the screen I don't have much faith they'll get that right either. Sure as hell not just calling for results as advised.
Sigh.... I used to have such faith in the NHS

sorry for my self obsession today. Could do with a big cool glass of sauv blanc now but it's not allowed on two counts, Anti-b's and pregnancy... grrrrrrr.
And talking of SB, where's Jollster got to?

OMG alba what a day you've had. We wait for the much coveted BFP only to realise that we are only at the start of our journey and we are no where near out of the woods.

I am shocked that they just told you all test were ok when the reality was that they weren't done at all

Hope the private test is ok. I just read that out of all the people who have 3 or more mc's about 15% are found to have that
sticky blood thing. So it looks unlikely that you have it but worth the money to put your mind at rest.

Thinking of you. Wish you could have that glass of wine - sounds like you deserve it!

Well I can have that glass of wine and I'm gonna!

Had a major meltdown tonight but more of me later.

Firstly, Gum, you star, what a lovely thing to say, I can have some eggs. Sadly, you are right in thinking they are not available to me due to age. Sorry but a nice thought.

Alba what a day. I think you are right to get the test done yourself and I think it is a pain you have to put up with all that. But the good news is, you is pregnant girlfriend!

Rowing I will email you, I will, just nervous about opening another door to potential failure, we are almost set on adoption now!

Hippy keep on, keeping on.

Love to all

Me, meltdown, just a mini one really, just needed it, kept talking to DH (who is not quite so fab as the loo is now leaking!) and wiping my eyes on my pinny like someone out of that Laura Ingles TV programme. Feeling better now, ....now where is that wine.

Waves to all

Hi all

Have been lurking a bit but mostly on my phone so not able to post. Have been up to eyes in it getting house on market, and settling DS into nursery.

Alba - have posted a BIG YAY on the other thread - but oh my goodness, what a day you have had . Am trying to stay off the SB myself - I can get into a very bad habit! But if I had any in the house I would have a glass in your honour.

Hey windyhippy, no wonder you want to live on the breezy coast!

Well have had the result of my day21 test, but not spoken to anyone about it yet. Progesterone level was 55.9 (apparently range is 5.3 - 86), but don't really know what that means. Any light shed by anyone? Plan to ring GP for discussion, and also take number to next acu appt; she wanted to know. Started brown spotting 3 days ago (which seemed like a slightly early start to RTD) but wouldn't usually go on that long before full flow... wondered if this is what acu does, in terms of regulating cycle a bit? On the positive side this WTF cycle is shorter than last time (though even as I type this I realise that this may NOT be the start of RTD at all ... of course this is WTF - there are no blimmin rules....).

Anyway will have a proper catch up and hope to post more in the next few days as things settle down a bit.... famous last words..

Gosh, thanks for listening to my rant and thank you for reminding me Italian that I have just passed a major milestone, all could end well so must start looking on the bright side again and enjoy this. You have a big decision to make so soon after a big disappointment, no wonder the meltdown, I do hope it has helped.

Hippy, how many days left now till testing? I'm sure you have more symptoms than I do! And thanks for the stats, also gave me the nudge I need to look on the bright side

good to see you Jolls!

hello everyone,

Can I just say a huge

CONGRATULATIONS to alba I'm so pleased for you.

Congrats to anyone else with good news, soory I don't get on here often enough to know who's doing what. Am trying not to get so onbessed in future.

Am due on Sunday but have sainsbos test calling to me from cupboard. Got my last bfp 4 day sbefore on a thursday for a sunday so might have togive in morning.

Hope youare all ok.

Hi all,
Alba what a nightmare about the no test. Good Alba though, getting the new test organised so very quickly, pat on back for being super-organised pregnant lady.
Yes and being happy, that's a good idea. Must try it.

Italian, now I don't want to lead you off the path you seem to have chosen, but I am more than happy to send you the information I have. I don't know about you, but I always like to have things 'covered' . Knowing about the other options might just reinforce your decision to adopt. Whatever you decide I am happy to help.

Liahgen (interesting name that) I'm quite excited to hear there is another test coming up on this thread. Good luck. PS what does 'onbessed' mean?

Jollster there you are! What an impressive progesterone level. Sounds like you could support quadruplets with all that progesterone. I am surprised you haven't googled it yet and spent the evening obsessively poring over progesterone related articles.

Hippy what is the DIY that has taken your DH years. Hope it isn't your bed or something. [Thinks about Hippy living in a house where the bath has fallen through the ceiling due to lack of DIY]

CD20 for me, yawn!
Going for run no. 3 tomorrow. My DS doesn't understand about no. being = number. He says 'What's no 3, why are there no 3s?'

rowing at Onbessed!! Can't believe Ididn't even glance at the post before pressing submit

Anyway It's a bit like Obsessed excepy cheaper.

Name is made up of my family's initials, including me and Dh. Couldn't think of anything witty when Ijoined. The 66 I have recently attached as I closed my mn account and when I rejoined I couldn't get my name back without altering it in some way.

cd20 sounds good to me, What is your UCL?

oh and yes prog is fab result, mine was in the 20's the time Iwas tested and doc said he would have liked it to be 30. It was done a day early though andthey said that could have made a difference.

excepy??? WTF...

except

Hi ladies. I had a little mini meltdown this morning. Off to work in a mo but I don't feel like going.

I think AF is on her way and it is just so bloody quick.

I'm only on day 19 (ov'd day 11). This morning i had a tiny pink streak and I'd love to believe that it's inplantation bleed but I am just fed up of thinking that and then finding out that NO it's just my period coming early again!!

I feel like my period is on the way, crampy and very PMT'd . But on the flip side my temp hasn't dropped yet so i am trying not to give up hope just yet.

I thought I'd get a longer cycle with the cream this month.

Why do early preg signs have to be so much like period symptoms??????

On the DIY side - nearly every room in our house has something that just needs finshing.

I lived without a kitchen sink for 6 months when my first son was 1! Reading that- even I find it hard to believe but it really is true - arggghh .

Just a quick update from me - it wasn't my month either . Woke at 5am to test (so DH can provide moral support before driving to work).
DD1 just threw her porridge everywhere.
Its not my day/week/month.

alba How awful, can't believe they let you carry on with your pregnancy thinking all had been checked and the lab had not even done the test??? They should be required to call and tell you. I can't believe how casual the NHS is about pregnancy and MCs. Well done for fighting your corner and getting a test organised. Already your chances of this pg lasting are so much better. And you are pregnant, so relax and revel in the thought.

I saw GP yesterday and she parroted the same "no test before 3 x MCs" so no aspirin for me until then. Will consider the private test, though DH might say its an unnecessary expense.

Some good news for all on this thread. GP did say that 80% of moms in our part of London are in their 40s, many having their first babies at 38

Right, back to the lattes (and hating myself for it)

Alba - the incompetency of some people is unbelievable. I am glad that you are getting the test done privately, how quickly will they have the results for you? Hope you are feeling better with the AB's now.

Jollster - regarding the progesterone, over 30 shows you have ovulated. That is the good news. I have been getting around 49 for the tests I have done. I did go to a fertility clinic and they were very pessimistic saying that they think the levels should be over 60 to sustain a pregnancy, however I know plenty of people who have had pregnancies with less than that. But it is the level they aim for at the fertiliy clinic that I went too. Hence why I was put on progesterone suppositories last time I was pregnant.

Hippy - hope that af comes soon or stays away for 9 months, to stop you being in limbo, it is the worst place to be. False hope is not fun.

Hi all. Alba that is truly appalling treatment from your surgery . Sadly I think it happens quite a lot in the NHS from what others have said (my own amnio was reported as 'normal' then it transcribed that they couldn't grow the cells but thought they's say it was ok anyway - would have been fine if some house officer hadn't decided to come clean weeks after...). Did you say you were getting a private test today? As Italian says, you are pregnant!!!! and the odds are very much in your favour xx
Hippy I know, what you say about symptoms is so true. I really hope the 'bleed' is an implntation one - it would fit in with your dates plus the temps. Everything crossed for you x
Doubleshotlatte sorry it wasn't your month either How long have you been trying? Hope your day improves xx
I know I've missed loads but hopefully a generic wave will suffice! Should be working

Thanks all for your support - this is such a great thread. no further spotting and still feeling incredibly emotional and tearful (could mean anything Hippy lets face it!!!).

Anyway, as you say i will focus on my temp being up and the fact that it is very early to start spottting and just hope and pray it is inplantation. Will keep you posted (project knicker check )

I have no clue what my prog levels are. We were just starting to look into all that when i got preg in dec and now the general feeling from the medical people seems to be - well you've been preg recently so you must be fine. I do wonder what my prog levels are though cos i do have such short cycles. i suppose I could look into it further.

I have a banging headache - good sign?, bad sign? sign I am mad?????

Much love to all.

Italian no harm in emailing rowing just to cover all bases. If you do decide on adoption you need to be sure that you have explored all avenues. go on - rowing doesn't bite - do you rowing??

Alba keep calm. Best of luck for the test.

liaghen hello my dear. good to see you back again. take care.

Hi all,
just wanted to pop on to say 'Aaa, I seeee!' about the 'onbessed' . I honestly thought it was a new term in TTC. Not sure what UCL is, guessing it's not the University of Chile. I'm waiting to go for a frozen embryo transfer - they wake them up first so not frozen on transferral, brrr! Wouldn't fancy that much.
I hate that thing when you try to find a new name and it's all monica1078az or something.

Alba hope the testing has all gone nice and smoothly and you are having a much better day today.

Hippy actually that sounds like an implantation bleed and you are right it all is very similar isn't it: AF/PG. Annoying.
A lady on one of my other threads is on her 2WW and has cut her finger badly, and had two near accidents whilst driving - she is testing tomorrow.

DSL Rainbow and Deige [waves][ducks to avoid porridge]

Got to dash back later to see how you all are.

That would certainly wake you up rowing a freezing cold embryo up your bits!!!!

I realised that I said it could just be my period coming early AGAIN - like I have been TTC for years and I am aware that this is only the second month.

I was kind of referring to the other few months we tried last year as well.

Don't want to sound like OMG we've been trying for sooooo long, cos I realise there are many ladies on this and other threads who have tried for longer. Do you get what i mean??? I don't want to offend anyone - IYSWIM.

DH has gone to pick the boys up for me cos I feel so awful. This is either a fab sign or a crap sign. Ahh well, time will tell.

This is how I feel right now - ha ha

doubleshot You made me think of 'friends'. It hasn't been your day, your week, your month or even your year. But we'll be here for you.

Better luck next month. Did you get all the porridge off the wall ok?

Apologies in advance for the very hurried posting. I'm off on holiday tomorrow for 2 weeks and still got loads of work to clear before I think about packing.

haven't read back so completely out of touch but just wanted to say hi to everyone.

Got my fingers crossed for you Hippy.

Still wincing at the thought of a frozen embryo transfer rowing! If it happens whilst I'm away, tonnes and tonnes of luck.

Alba - posted on the other thread (sorry you had such a miserable time with the doctors).

Jollster - still chortling that you are now associated with SB We have a case of wine delivered quarterly and there is a glut of white building up (DH only drinks red) - seems such a waste to see it sitting there!

Italian - sorry re the meltdown - big glass of virtual SB and even bigger hug to you x.

Love to you all. Catch up properly in two weeks.

hippy, I can only encourage you in your 2ww obsessing. I had a headache for the whole 2ww. And spotting for 3 days from 6 to 9dpo (might have even been longer). Only five days to poas day?

alba, why oh why do some docs seem so completely blase and downright unhelpful with pregnancy? Sorry it's been shit but hope all will be well.

Afternoon ladies. A quick one from me, apologies to those who are also on the Asst Conception thread ... I told Evil Boss on Monday, with another woman in the room so I had a witness, and she was totally fine about it. I told her that as it had taken such a lot to get to this stage, I was telling her early, as anything could happen, so that if anything DID happen, she would understand and be able to support me in that. But I asked her not to tell anyone else. And she was fine. I think she likes feeling that I trust her. A bit of a weight off my mind, I can tell you ...

Hippy, fingers crossed for you. Waves to everyone else and disappears into the sunset.

Hello all
DS was drawing pictures of dragons today and learned to sing puff the magic dragon... I have fond memories of that song from childhood. So downloaded it on itunes and it's currently playing whilst DS falls asleep (he can't get enough of it) and the end is making me cry (dragons live forever, but not so little boys.... you probably all know the rest)

Got to run, but thanks all for messages, feeling better that bloods will be back next week.

DSL - it's less than you'd pay to get the car serviced, may convince your DH that way?

Liahgen, lovely to see you again... fingers crossed for you - no hurrah post today, did you hold out another day?

Hippy - I agree with the others - definite pg symptoms, I'm hoping for you.

Kiwi - I'm considering telling my boss tomorrow - very early, but he was incredibly discreet about my miscarriage, I'm not currently chasing promotions or anything, so possibly easier if he knows that I'm going to be sneaking off to the first aid room for a nap every lunchtime ? Imagine it's a huge relief your boss reacted so well

TFLS - thanks for your lovely posts

must run - waves and SB to all

thank you Lia and Rainbow for your thoughts on my Prog result - Rainbow, that's really really interesting about what's needed to maintain the pg. Mmmmm, food for thought.

oooo, good luck hippy....

pleased your boss reacted as she did Kiwi, restores faith in humankind/leadership

might change my name to JollyOysterBayster....