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Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 5

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Bumpless · 23/03/2010 10:02

Thought I'd set us up a new home! kettle's on and choc tin open.

This is a lucky start to our new thread: 2 BFPs and a fantastic fertilisation rate from Dueling!

Boobs and biscuits to everyone

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Horton · 21/04/2010 16:23

Best of luck, Idream. Am crossing my fingers, too.

Big hugs to Italian.

We had our treatment appointment at Create Health yesterday and it's all looking positive. My AMH results were good, DH's semen analysis was good and I start on Day 2 of my next cycle which should be around the end of the week. Argh, INJECTIONS!

Italiangreyhound · 21/04/2010 16:53

Chocobunny I can only guess was DH's idea to visit museum on way to treatment appointment. He sounds like my DH.

Best of luck, I have eaten a Mars Ice cream and now dedicate that tasty experience to your honour, dear choco!

Horton hatch that egg, you can do it; we are all cheering you on.

Feeling very positive today, visited a friend who has adopted and saw her lovely little one and we chatted a lot and I just feel whatever will be will be..... no not bursting into song like Doris, que cerae serar! How do you spell that!

Waves to all

Horton · 21/04/2010 17:00

Thanks, Italian.

Please, if any of you have any tips for making the injection thing easier, either psychologically or practically, do share! Dh can't do them as he is rarely around in the evenings so I'm flying solo.

Idreaminhotchocolate · 21/04/2010 17:42

Hi Ladies,

I have a baby on board and am officially pregnant until proven otherwise! I have a picture of our little embie (Freddie) which is proudly sat on our mantelpiece. I managed to sleep through my Zita post transfer meditation on the way home from the clinic, so will have to try again later!

Yes Italian, it was DH's idea to go to the museum, however we didn't end up going because he decided he needed to go to B&Q instead (in fact he's just off for his 3rd visit of the day - after 3 and a half years of living in this house he has decided to fix the shower [never yet used] as he thinks I wil boil the embryo if I have a bath...). I hope you thoroughly enjoyed your Mars Bar ice cream, my lovely ItalianGreyhound

Horton, good luck with your new cycle. My tip re: injections is,to quote an ethically questionable sports brand "Just Do It". I only had to do one of mine as DH did them for me, but on that one occasion I picked up the needle (and promptly nearly severed my little finger!) and looked at it and started to panic and then thought "I've got to do this regardless" - so I just stuck it in and before I knew it, it was over!!

Horton · 21/04/2010 18:23

What lovely news, Idream! Well done!

This is my first cycle, hence feeling so very nervous. Thanks for the tip. That was what I thought was probably the best way but I'm still terrified!

Cerubina · 21/04/2010 20:04

GREAT news Idream! Go go go Freddie! Best of luck with the dreaded 2WW - remember we are with you whenever you have a wobble and start to worry. Hope you found ET a lot easier than EC and no ill effects. Your DH is funny with his B&Q addiction - has he any aptitude for this stuff or are you just going to end up having to call in a plumber anyway after he's had all the tiles off the wall and caused a flood?

Horton that seems to have snuck up from out of nowhere but excellent that you can make a start so soon. Almost too soon to get anxious about it I should think. Glad the test results were all so positive - must be a nice way to go into the treatment phase.

Hi Italian, good to hear that you are feeling philosophical and calm. Que sera sera (for that is how it's spelled!) is an admirable mental state to get to if you can manage it. Not sure I manage it more than fleetingly every blue moon!

How is everyone else? I hope Ginger and 3G have some good news for us. How are the pregnant ladies getting on - Kiwi, Dueling, Mojangles, have I forgotten anyone?

Hello to Penguin, Isle, MM, Babybarrister, Penfold, Amber and anyone lurking or forgotten in that rollcall.

I've had a bit of a shit couple of days emotionally. Just seem to be a wet blanket at the moment. Had acupuncture earlier and spent most of the session weeping while the therapist reassured me that it WILL happen and all this time and worry and sadness will one day seem like nothing. It's just so hard to believe sometimes. She told me to enjoy myself and have fun while waiting for the test results and treatment to come, because ONCE I get pregnant it will all be worry for the rest of my life. She's right, but I'm just such a party pooper these days. I'm not happy unless I'm being gloomy and feeling wounded. Bollocks to it. Hope everyone else is doing better at being a normal human being!!

Horton · 21/04/2010 21:23

It really does seem to have gone awfully fast. That's the difference between private and NHS, I guess. When we were booked in for IVF before my miscarriage in December, it was a good six months between initial appointment and starting. Also, I am doing a different (mild stim) type of IVF so I don't have the weeks of shutting down my system and go straight to stimulation. Apparently I could get up to the number of antral follicles they counted before. I don't need fifteen! But I suppose that would be good in that they could then choose the very best.

Cerubina, go easy on yourself. I know it is easier said than done but the very best thing you can do is cut yourself a bit of slack. And actually, if you feel gloomy then just wallow for a bit if you want. You are totally allowed. Better to wallow for a bit and get it all out of your system, I think. Baths, wine, chocolate, crisps, a good DVD and reading in bed would be my prescription. But then I am very boring these days and others might want a really good night out!

gingerwine · 21/04/2010 21:55

BFN so no surpise I'm afraid. Not doing great at being a normal human Cerubina I'm afraid. Just tears here. May I be a wet blanket too?

I'm wondering about donor eggs. To those who have done this how did you choose your clinic? Did you have to travel far and if so how many times and for how long did you have to go away. I have no major concerns about a baby not having my DNA but the logisitcs of egg donation worry me. My clinic has closed it's waiting list so we can't use them although I believe they have links with a clinic in Spain. I know I need to speak to them and ask but I just wondered what others experiences were.

Horton Great news that you are starting soon. Please don't worry too much about the injections. Once you have done a couple it really will become easier. Practically just lay everything out before you start and check things carefully. Psychologically I think I did have a few times when I found myself thinking "Is this really what I have to do to have a child?". I remember thinking this just as I was about to inject and I think it is only natural to feel this way. The best thing is to just stick it in quickly and get it done.

Idream Hooray. Some good news. So glad you have your embie back with you safely. Lots and lots of luck for your 2WW. Enjoy your Zita relaxation.

Italian How on earth do you stay so positive? I am in awe. I am a heap of misery and just can't see what we should do next.

Off to drink wine!!

PenfoldsGlasses · 21/04/2010 22:01

Idream Yay for Freddie (the battler!) I have everything crossed for you. Rest up and take the next 2 weeks easy - nothing else in life is important.

Ginger Thinking of you...

Italian Glad to see you have your smile back - your positivity has been missed while you were away.

Cerubina Hope you are ok, I have some great IVF cd's including Zita that I can post on to you if you like - takes the pressure off.

Horton I was petrified of the injections until I did my first one - I am a bit upholstered so didnt feel the Gonal-F pen going in. I think I was more scared of mucking it up rather than the injection itself.

hello to fellow pregnant ladies Kiwi, Dueling, Mojangles

Have had a bit of a melancholy day - I find myself 41, no children, on my fifth pregnancy (4 miscarriages), totally in shock that my first IVF worked yet waiting for it all to come crashing down around me. Hopefully a good sleep is all I need. Trying to focus on something I read recently God's delays don't mean God's denials. Bless him, my DH has been trying to cheer me up tonight (but gave up and sloped away when the Champions League theme tune started )

waves to everyone else...

nite xxx

Horton · 22/04/2010 09:48

Thanks for the reassurance, everyone.

Good vibes and love to ginger and Penfold. Hope you both feel a bit better soon.

Amberc · 22/04/2010 11:04

Hi all - I have had NO BROADBAND!!!! I have tried to catch up but understand there is good and bad news on the thread.

Italian - I am so sorry it didn't work. You seem to be mother to everyone on this thread (in the best possible way) and I so wanted you to be mother in every way. I agree with the que sera sera attitude as there are things in life that you can't control and will drive yourself mad with them. You have one lovely child and maybe one day a very lucky boy or girl will come to call you mummy too.

Ginger again I'm so sorry (having been though it). Cry as much as you need to. Will you try again?

I dream - good luck! Hope freddie is cosy and warm.

Penfold - I can imagine how you feel - I have mentioned this before but my sis had 3 miscarriages but is now 32 weeks preggers so everything comes to she who waits - try to be positive if you can.

Horton - my tip is to pinch tightly and do it as close to your tummy button as you can. Also I found that injecting at an angle is better than straight out. Last thing is that if it hurt a lot to put the needle in then i just took it out and did it in a different place - amazing how that helped. I think you can also put an ice cube on the site a few mins before and freeze it up a bit.

Hi Cerubina - bless you - you are bound to have bad days. I am lucky in a way that my chances are so shite that i never allowed myself to get too excited and when I got my neg I was upset but kind of expected it.

Me - well I have now lost 14 lbs!! I don't hink my Clomid cycle has worked as I feel periody and took an early neg test yesterday. Will test on Saturday as I was supposed to but don't think it's worked. Onwards and upwards.

Apols to anyone I have forgotten x

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Horton · 23/04/2010 13:12

Thank you for the tips, Amber. Much appreciated. 14lbs is great, well done.

Oh dear, babybarrister, that sounds awful. Wishing you the very best of luck. I am glad your DH is now finding it funny - might this lead to him relaxing a bit?

Amberc · 23/04/2010 16:18

Not pregnant again. Am going to try IUI this cycle. At least I feel like I'm doing something.

KC11 · 23/04/2010 17:32

Hello ladies. I used to be on here every day but found i had to have a break from it all. Hello to anyone who remembers me. I've just started my injections of buserelin for my third go at IVF using my own eggs and DH sperm. Fresh cycles. No embryos were good enough to freeze from attempts 1 & 2.
Just want to wish everyone on here luck. I will be on here more often as I am going to take a coupe of months unpaid leave as i find my job very stressful and have to give this ivf cycle every chance and that needs me to be calm and relaxed.

Have a great weekend in the warm UK sunshine everyone.

Horton · 23/04/2010 17:42

Good luck, KC11. Hope it works out this time!

Sorry to hear that, Amber.

Italiangreyhound · 24/04/2010 01:07

Idreaminhotchocolate Way to go chocobunny. Go Freddie go, I am so pleased . Keep listening to Auntie Zita! Yes Mars ice cream yummy, I'm having a hot chocolate now and thinking of you! Best quality Fair Trade, yummy. Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you, I'm not checking every day but I am thinking of you, stay away from those rockets! Can't believe DH wants to go to B and Q 3 times in one day!!!

gingerwine so sorry. There aren't really any words to say.

gingerwine how do I stay so positive, well I must say it is God. I have been a Christian for 27 years and it is only when the sh*t hits the fan (if you excuse that term!) that you find out what your faith means and actually it is then that you hang on to God more tightly, and he hangs onto you too! I also think in a very real sense I did feel prepared for it not to have worked. I am also quite excited about the prospect of adopting. Please be kind to yourself, I really feel so sorry for you (and me) and I know it is harder when the feelings are raw so just be nice to yourself.

Gingerwine re donor eggs - I'll tell you my considerations and you can let me know if you want to ask anything. I wanted a clinic where the child (if there was one) could trace the donor one day if they wished to. This may not be everyone's consideration, but it was mine. I think this rules in the UK and the USA (and maybe other places too) and rules out some other European places. No idea about the rest of the world. If this is not a consideration for you, then you can include all clinics that you like. I chose to go with a clinic that was close to home, but still about 1 and half hours away, but which did not involved going into London on public transport! My own dislike of tubes
and buses etc! (By tubes I mean the underground not fallopian ones). Sorry Ginger, I should not joke, I know it is hard but if possible I like to be a bit light hearted or we would all be crying a lot! Anyway, some clinics said if we had a child already (as we do) that we would not be eligible for donor eggs, because they did not have enough. My understanding is that you can either find a clinic that will recruit a donor for you, or find your own donor, I felt it was too hard to find my own donor and did not go down that route. But if I had had friends offering to do it, I may have felt differently. So for me it was logical to look at all clinics within driving distance of where we live, speak to them by phone and find out a few key things - their prices, their waiting lists, their upper age limit, and also look at their success rates. We chose the closest clinic with best results and reasonable costs which treated people of my age. When you look at it that way you find that some clinics rule themselves out for one reason or another. Ours offered altruistic donors and egg sharers and some have only very few egg sharers per years. If you are CMV positive (or DH is) then the wait is shorter usually so you may find that you could use a UK clinic and not wait too long.

Horton Injections - easier - well, ask the clinic, that is my answer to everything, I'm afraid! I think it is easier if you just do it firmly and perhaps give the injection site a little rub afterwards. I found some hurt and some did not. Anyway, all the best. What is the psychologically problem? Are you afraid of needles? They are just so tiny that they do not too much! DD and I find it makes it less fearful if we name spiders, maybe you could name your needles, Ted tonight, Jim tomorrow, and
Tammy-Lou the day after! Just an idea!

Cerubina So sorry to hear you are down. Do you have a plan, are you waiting for something to happen or just waiting for it to happen naturally. I am the type of person who finds it easier to have a plan. Or a distraction, maybe time to do something else for short while, as the Americans say, re-group? All the best.

PenfoldsGlasses Thinking of you, please look after yourself, be careful and keep that little embie safe. I am so pleased for you. It is so easy to assume that others have it easy to think how lucky people are then we hear the full story and know that all our bfps and little ones are hard one, because for us it has not been easy to have the family we wanted. So well done to you, for your perseverance. It is admirable to want something so much you are willing to face the sadness too. But this time, I really hope and pray that it will all be OK. What else can I say, make that DH look after you!

Thanks Amberc you nearly made me cry with your kind words! Lost 14 pounds, what is your secret! Wonderful. Really hope that the IUI cycle will work this time. Our DD is the result of an IUI cycle with just one follicle when I was just about to turn 39.

babybarrister well done, you will get there soon - I feel sure. Good not to lose the perspective and not to lose some humour in it all.

Welcome back KC11, all the best.

Waves, , arrow prayers and chocolate boobs to all

KiwiKat · 24/04/2010 13:37

I've been dealing with RL for the last week - massive event at work, affected by the no-fly thing etc - and SO MUCH has happened here while I've been away!

Italian - so sorry. I've had a little cry for Emerald and Laurel. Sending lots of love, and hope I'll still see you here and on the Fab 40 thread x

3G and Gingerwine - sorry to hear yours were both a BFN too. I hope that your next steps work out.

Penguin, how's it all going?

Horton - great that you and DH are both firing on all cylinders - best of luck for the injections, hope they're quick and easy for you. I found it easier just to do them myself, make a little routine of it, and count them off as every one being that one step closer to our goal. They hurt A LOT less than the needles used by nurses for giving blood. Then again, I've got a fair amount of fat on my thighs and tummy, and I think that helped. (They told me the thin girls found it harder.)

IDream - Sending loads of sticky vibes for Freddie!! (Bit worrying to hear about the after-effects of the EC. Hope ET was straightforward.)

Cerubina, don't beat yourself up. TTC and IVF are both huge rollercoasters, and you've been through a lot lately. You'd be less than human if it didn't get to you. It's bloody hard work both emotionally and physically. Hope you're feeling a bit better now.

Penfolds, I know what you mean about waiting for it all to come crashing down. You don't want to jinx it. But don't forget we've also got those hormones raging around at the moment that make us feel depressed and grumpy - I'm a right snappish wasp today. You in London? We could meet for caffeine-free tea and a grumpy party ...

AmberC - 14 lb! I am in awe! Well done. I hope the IUI works for you.

Babybarrister, hope your husband manages to get over the stage fright. Don't think I could perform on demand, either!

KC11, sending fruitful thoughts to you.

NewMember · 24/04/2010 15:13

Hi Ladies!

I have not been on for quite a while! A big congrats to the ppl with BFP, you must all be delighted! It gives everyone else a bit of hope and proves that there can be light at the end of the tunnel!

So sorry to the ppl that have had BFN, stay stong and keep on going - never give up hope, you never know what is around the corner! Sending you all love and hope! x

Not been on as I feel a bit displaced at the moment. DP and I have now been on the ICSI waiting list for 7 months, sadly we have at least 18 months still to go! I hate NHS waiting lists. I would love to go private but we have so much on over the next year i.e. getting married - all our saving has gone to that lately!

So we plan to start ICSI late next summer! I would give anything for it to be now!

x

gleegeekgleek · 24/04/2010 19:11

Hi all,

It was definitely a BFN for us - I have also had a lot of bleeding now so didn't even make it to OTD.

We will do a FET next and console ourselves that we have a whopping number of frosties so hopefully the chance of none defrosting like our last cycle of FET before the fresh is unlikely.

I might go a bit quiet for now as I'd like a break from thinking about treatment for a month or two til we start again but will keep looking at the thread and hoping for more BFPs!

Horton · 24/04/2010 22:22

They told me the thin girls found it harder.

Do not want to hear this! Lalalalala (fingers in ears and singing). I weigh 8 stone and am the fattest I've ever been (I'm not a dieting type, just genetically skinny, my dad weighs about 9 stone and is (obv) a man).

Italian, it's not that I'm afraid of needles. I'm fine with other people giving me injections etc. A lifetime of severe asthma and allergies has inured me to being stuck with needles. It's just the thought of doing it to myself which seems odd and weird and wrong. Is that nuts?

But my period started today so tomorrow night will be my first injection. Please wish me luck, all of you. I think I will be thinking about the long road all of you have travelled as I stick the first one in!

angelberg · 25/04/2010 00:42

Hello Ladies,

I'm new on this thread - have just finished course of injections for IVF and am going to have eggs retrieved on Monday.

I was advised to take the IVF after two ectopics - one on each side...

I'm lucky enough to already have a DS (2 yrs) and all healthy, and although I thought I'd cope well mentally with going through IVF, I have been a wreck worrying about getting the injections right, taking the right meds at the right times etc. Is there anyone else who feels like it's a fairly tall order to take all the information about IVF in, process it and act on all the instructions you're given? Or is it just me?!!
Admittedly, I'm doing it all in a foreign language (living in Germany) so maybe that's part of it.

Anyway, good luck to all who are in this boat with me!!

DuelingFanjo · 25/04/2010 18:02

Hi all, I am so sorry I haven't been about lately - have been going through various anxieties of my own which are probably best kept off this thread. Everything ok so far as far as I know, scan is on Thursday.

I wanted to say to Italian, gleegeekgleek and Gingerwine how sorry I am to hear you were not successful this time. Italian your post about it all is so moving, I really hope that whatever path you decide to take you do realise your dreams to parent another child.

Idream am thinking of you and hope you are ok.

Waves to everyone else.

Horton · 25/04/2010 19:41

I managed to do the first injection. Nowhere near as bad as I feared.

Nice to see you, Dueling, hope all is well and the scan is a good experience for you. Sorry to hear you are anxious. I think, if it helps at all, that anxiety is the default mindset for pregnancy. And parenthood, come to think of it.

Horton · 25/04/2010 20:00

And I'm so sorry, how rude of me. Hello, angelberg.

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