Just MC'd .. Come and join us for the long haul (newbies always welcome!) - Vol 3

[LeeWT]

Hi all, old and new, this is the thread where all moaning, pieces of tmi, discussions and virtual cups of tea and biscuits come together to keep us sane .. or at the least insane together!

Boodle - good luck for tomorrow, so glad they caved - and so they should!! Hope it goes well.

Viv - how is today going? Sounds doubly hard what with the letter too...last night must have been rubbish. I stupidly gave my details to SMA's website a month or so ago, they sent me a congratulations pack last week to mark (what would've been) my 12 week point - had a fit and tore it all up. It took some effort, they shouldn't make those packs out of cardboard, but was quite therapeutic...

Sorry about BFNs and AFs guys.

Hello MrsG!! I'm also not not trying this month....but as no idea what my cycle's up to I won't get too excited!

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Hi all I'm back from holiday which was lovely and warm and we thankfully did not get burgled while we were away.

I think my cycle is currently on 26 although it switches between that and 31 so I reached for a cheapie yesterday and BFN. Am now convinced can't be and should act as if I'm not (forget about blood sugar, alcohol and caffeine) to see if sod's law will work at last. Still waiting for AF though.

I realised last night that I can't remember when my EDD was meant to be. It was either the 8th or 22nd of Jan and I can't remember which.

Boodle where are you? At UCH they told me that for the next pg (whenver that might be) I would get a scan at 7 weeks to check all was ok. They were not perfect, and if you want a list of their problems do a search under my name around June - October of this year but that did sound reassuring.

Cheepz sorry to see you back. I was told at St Mary's (where I go for diabetes) that they will refer you to their special unit for 2 recurrent miscarriages in certain situations e.g. mine) so 3 is not a point blank rule.

Boodle - I just saw I x-posted. Glad to see you got them to see sense.

Hi all,

Can I come for a cry?

Tigerbear it has just happened to me too. I've just been told by a friend that a good friend of mine is 14 weeks pregnant and didn't know how to tell me.

I'm so happy for her, I really really am, but I feel so sick. She has had a mc before too so she knows.

May come back later. Need to have a cry. x

Oh Sarah, you poor thing. It's shit, isn't it? Especially as you've heard it third hand. (Not that I'm blaming your pg friend btw, as at least she acknowledged it would be difficult for you, rather than blundering in without thinking).

Have a big big cry honey and an even bigger glass of wine. x

Tiger and Sarahlou, it must be so hard to be happy for others knowing what you're missing. My SIL gave birth yesterday and TBH I was OK as the whole having a baby thing seems so far away. If she'd be announcing her pregnancy I think I might have found it harder, in a way.

Also sorry for BFNs and AFs - although still holding out hope for those of you with no AF yet

Boodle glad you got your scan!

Voice of boring reason for a moment guys - I'm really glad Boodle managed to make them cave and give her a scan. This is what they should do. If they say no to early scans, please push and push rather than resorting to lying - if you make yourself out to be an 'emergency' you may end up getting an 'emergency' appointment which will mean some poor bugger who actually is bleeding and might be miscarrying will have to wait longer for their scan and good/bad news. An early scan should be our right having miscarried, but please try everything possible before lying to get it. A very close friend of mine had a couple of really unpleasant MCs and frequently had to wait for scans at the EPU (which is always tiny, understaffed and overworked) when she was bleeding heavily and painfully because of 'higher priority' cases who were sitting in front of her in the waiting room chatting away about how they managed to get their scans by lying.

quite right hopefully....i didn't lie just to put your mind at rest.....i just used my Jedi mind-trick technique....

Jedi mind tricks thoroughly recommended!

I agree, they definitely should give you an appointment for an early scan without having to make up a reason - the EPU told me that if (I hope when!) I get pregnant again I can just call and make an appointment for a scan around the 8 week mark. I guess it depends on the unit, but I will definitely be taking them up on that as I imagine I'll be pretty worried about it if (when, when) I get to that stage again.

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Hi Viv and Hopefully thanks for that. Had a little cry and texted her. She's been so worried, but now it's out in the open I feel a bit better.
I don't understand how I am feeling. I am genuinely pleased for her as she's been through this herself but she's on week 14, a week away from when I lost mine, so I know the coming weeks are going to be hard, a sort of 'this should have been where I was' feeling. Does that make sense?
Hopefully yes it's funny, I have two friends who have recently had babies (both knew about what happened) and I was absolutely fine about it, able to cuddle them without being upset and everything, it's just pregnancy I can't seem to handle and I don't know why.
Viv, I hope you are okay, I know it's an important one for you today.

Thank you for being here when I need you.

Sorry, also meant to say big hugs to Sarahlou and Tigerbear - my best mate emailed me last week as she wanted me to "be the first to know" that she's 12 weeks pregnant. Our dates are the same - I can't bear to meet up with her yet, I feel robbed.

She does completely deserve it and everything though!! It's just very hard to separate out being happy for her from everything else I feel about it. I had a massive cry when I got her email - I was sitting at my desk in work - my boss' boss saw me and scuttled back into his office and emailed "big hugs" - he's the most blokish bloke you've ever met, so the email was actually quite sweet.

Funnily enough, I don't think I'd ever have such a strong reaction when anyone on this list gets pregnant - maybe it's just when it happens in real life that it makes me unbearably jealous?

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oh dear we're a sorry lot today

viv so sorry that today further adds insult to injury

boodle delighted you got your scan

welcome mrsgazebo

I think everyone is agreed that BD is in the recycle bin while SWI (shagging with intent for those catching up) is the new term of endearment!

tigerbear tigger15 and tfls sorry about your bfns. I CANNOT stop peeing on internet cheapies.. im on cd36 and nothing. grasping at straws and guessing that the cramping on cd23 was ovulation then af would be due 5 days later - tomorrow and id get a bfp on a test. but... nothing... i wonder is it better not to have cheapies and that would stop me poas?! starting to get af symptoms so that will hopefully be me back to cd1 tomorrow!

sorry for everyone with friends with pregnancies and babies. feels like theyre everywhere doesnt it!

jollster nice to still see you here have you come across meita out there? worried about her..
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lee how long you been hiding the jaffa cakes....? No sign of meita, sorry.

Great news on the scan Boodle; am going to book a MW appt tomorrow, and enquire whether an early scan is available in my case.

Sorry there's a lot of woe on the air today - may tomorrow be onwards and upwards for all!

H al.

Good luck BOODLE X

Hi MRSGAZEBO its pants isn t it?

SARAHLOU i think your reaction is perfectly normal and acceptable, when i attended counselling after my first MC the counseller agreed with this.If i m that way out i even think that about famous people. people in the media who i don t even know!!!!The thoughts of "it s not fair, i bet they ve had no problems getting pg or miscarrying etc..etc.."

HOPEFULLY although i kinda agree with your logic about lying for a scan i also know as a specialist sister in an outpatients department that if patients tell me they ve got certain signs and symptons i have to see them asap soo i know what works and unfortunaley you all have to play the game to get anywhere.

Hope everyone else is ok X

Well no joy with my appt at the genetic counsellor rung the receptionist today STILL no letter or appt.....Will ring in about 10 days time to DEMAND an appt its been 6 weeks now since our appt at the re-current miscarriage clinic and STILL no further foreward.....It all takes soo long no wonder i ve lost interest in it all....

Louise I believe you - that's what so annoying. If EPUs were better resourced/staffed etc, then anyone who had reason to need reassurance could have an early scan. It's crap that people who can't afford the private route (for an early scan) have to either lie or suffer till at least 12 weeks. It's one of those things that annoys me. I paid for a private scan with my first PG (now DS), but I can't afford to do so this time sadly. Seems to be pretty good care round here, so I'm hoping I'll get offered an early scan next time, if I don't then we'll get to see if I can remain on my high horse when faced with the reality!

That's so crap about taking so long to get an appointment at the genetic counsellor. Hope you manage to use the same jedi mind tricks as Boodle to get your appt.

I am thrilled that SWI has provided some of you with entertainment today, and wholeheartedly agree that it should become the new acronym for the horrifically twee BD. Can just imagine DP's face if I asked him to go baby dancing with me. It would go I reckon.

Just thought I'd tell you all that having peed on fifteen million sticks in the last week that i just told the smug, thin woman on the ad for clearblue to fuck right off.

its not telling me how to get my period to show up OR how to lose a stone!

rant over.

Well HELLO every one!
Im only going to post on here if it is a thread containing luck and tons of baby dust.....so...is it???

Sigh, i also told the clearblue lady to fuck off with her skinny smarmy voice, oh just fuck off will you to the screen just made me giggle to myself at the depths i have sunk to!
Have to confess to feeling jealous of the virgin mary quite a bit over Christmaswho evidently can do it all with no fucking effort at all, then hops on a donkey and lo and behold a baby apears. bloody donkey.

SO here we go again hey. The whole bloody thing again.
Keep saying that we are going to give it "one last shot" but quite honestly, im not sure if i can give up that easily. 5 mcs later, physically they are very painful, emotionally i seem to recover quitequickly, i just cannot come to terms with the fact that i will never be able to have a baby.
I am 40 this year, is nature telling me something, am i just not getting the hint?

Its SO hard isnt it, well you all know, you have been through it yourselves.

When do you draw the line and finnaly accept that "this is it"? I just cant seem to.

Wow, loads to catch up on today - I have had a really busy one so been awol and I come back and you've all had a despair party without me ... how dare you

well went to hospital this morning for blood tests - they took gallons, 9 different vials - 4 had to be completely full so they needed to go in both arms as one dried up, and I have low blood pressure so afterwards felt like there was no blood left in me - thats why I had to have the big chicken and mushroom pasty and tripple chocolate muffin no really!!

glad its done although the system is royally f*cked - you get there and take a ticket like the deli counter - when i got there they were on 31 - my ticket was 67, for goodness sake.

then after work had to go to the dentist and the chiropractor so feel like have had a full service today - but not in a good way.

bleeding has stopped so am back in business, plan to SWI this month and see what gives, might avoid peaks to see what happens - maybe we'll get a DD!!

Boo so glad about your early scan, I am really surprised as when I saw the doctor last week about mc2 she said as sson as i know I am pregnant next time they will book me for an early scan for reassurance and to be on the safe side. your lot sound really tight!!

viv been thinking of you hun, must have been a trying day and one you will be glad to get past. think you're doing just great.

lee wheres AF must be so frustrating for you and at least you're using cheapies or this would be costing a bomb! can't believe you are this late ... have you thought about seeing a doctor to see if theres anything they can check for?

tfls nice to see you! thanks for kind words, has been wierd, in some ways feel better now than I did before the mc, clocks been reset, fertility concerns are resolved, third times a charm and all that, but still dealing with things like my in laws arriving in few weeks from SA and would have been lovely to tell them we were in club again. Also due date would have been same as my god daughters birthday so will be no getting away from that date ever..

gazebo helllooooo and welcome, glad you decided to stop lurking and join the fun, sorry you have had to find yourself on this rollercoaster though, looking forward to 'sharing the journey'

tiger, tigger and tfls sorry to hear about BFFN downers, its such a crap feeling, and so embarassing when you find yourself dismantling the test in some last vain attempt to find some remote trace fo a line

hopefully loving your soapbox moment, heres to more of those! you are right its not great to lie, personally ethics aside I would be more worried that if I lied about spotting it would be sods law that a few days later I would get some for real so I couldn't lie about it, I can't ever pretend my son is poorly to bunk off work, as its just tempting fate!

sarah horrid horrid finding out friends are where you should be.. hugs to you

jolls hola chica, quietly wishes Jolls and jollsbean stickiness and good vibes

meita oh meita wherfore art thou, hope alls well if u r lurking for a while, might hunt you donw on the grads thread and report back

mrsr nice work on the list lady - can't imagine you would be sad to see the back of BD - seems like that would not be your style

waves to goodluckbear, effi and louisesh hi there, nice to see you

right - hope have covered all, if not then dammit theres just too many of us. I am off to ma can't focuke a massive to do list so that while its too ealry to focus on SWI I can get all the odd chores done - we need to get our house on the market and it needs to be painted first so can organise all that in the next week or so.

"Bloody donkey". I nearly wet my pants at that one.

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sunburnt crossed posts. You had me cracking up too. You sound to be on top form!

I dont think you ever can give up... but have a DS so its a different set of emotions I expect

Used to say to people who had had mc's before I had one 'oh that must be awful and really hard' but without any real comprehension so can't pretend to know how you feel....

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Cheepz! champion posting there. from now on i'm going to piggyback and say "what she said!" as you remember everyone!

saw dr today.. not my usual one and perfectly nice man who said its unlikely to be a false negative. test again at the weekend (like duh!) and if its still a negative then, just stop worrying about it and it'll come eventually. like wtf - who does he think i am? little bo fucking peep?!

im so ranty tonight, sorry

sunburntats i cant imagine being at the point of thinking of throwing the towel in. id imagine it would need to be your decision - like when you cant take it any more.. would you eligible for ivf? or have they done tests? hope u r ok x

Wow, as Cheepz says, such a busy board today, and considering it was a despair party, plenty of laughs.

viv hope you feel better after you get past this day. Today is the anniversary of my first mc, a different kind of milestone but I understand how they can sneak up on you and really hurt

lee you really are being most patient, but then I guess we don't get any choice. Hope its a shy bfp but failing that AF would be acceptable.

sarah I know what you mean about friends and pregnancy, but I have to admit I find the babies tough sometimes too - friends talking about how nice it is to see their two playing together and I think, how lonely DS must be sometimes.

I'm sitting waiting for AF, though I put 28 for UCL I think its really 26 (just wonky from mc). None of my usual pregnancy symptoms but exhausted, sicky and pissed off. I'll probably be on CD1 again tomorrow. No right to be impatient given the waits so many on here have had, but I can feel her coming.

Goodnight to all and good luck

Hi, just checked back to say goodnight and my goodness! Your'e all out tonight!

sunburnt - I've laughed for the first time today at the Clearblue response! Yes I feel like that too. "Can't tell you if it's a girl or a boy" what a load of crap!
Boodle good luck for tomorrow.
Cheepz - triple chocolate muffin... mmmmm
Now thats the vision I am taking to bed with me...
night night x

Hello, i have namechanged to how i feel atm.
How long does AF usually take to come after MC?

LeeWT TTC#2 UCL30-32 cycle -2 CD36
Barrenbrook TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 9 CD35
TFLS TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 6 CD30
Tigger15 TTC#2 UCL31 cycle 7 CD26
SarahMumtoAlex TTC#2 UCL28 Cycle 4 CD25
MrsRigby TTC#2 UCL? cycle 1 CD24
Louisesh TTC#1 UCL33 cycle 25 CD21
vivcliquot TTC#1 UCL27 cycle 2 CD18
RunForTheHills TTC#1 UCL30 cycle 13 CD17
sunburntats TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 1 CD15
Hopefully TTC#2 UCL27 cycle 2 CD11
Tetleytea TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 2 CD10
effilump TTC#5 UCL28 cycle 1 CD8
samanthab123 TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD7
Cheepz TTC#2 UCL28 cycle WTF#2 CD6
Zayja TTC#1 UCL24-26 cycle 10 CD5
Sarahlou TTC#3 UCL27 cycle 2 CD4
Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL26 cycle 6 CD2
FedUpAndHateFul TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 1 CD?
goodluckbear TTC#1 UCL28 cycle WTF CD?
keevamum TTC#3 UCL? cycle? CD?
lulabell79 TTC#? UCL? cycle? CD?

WTTC
Justbeenforapromenade
Fingerscrossedlegsopen

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
hoops997 BFP 11 July 2009
Stressy BFP 22nd August 2009
becky78 BFP 4th September 2009
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September 2009
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September 2009
Chamois BFP 7th October 2009
Apples BFP 9th November 2009 - TWINS
Meita BFP 10th December 2009
CakeandFineWine BFP 27th December 2009
boodleboot BFP 2nd January 2010
Jollster BFP 10th January 2010

Thank you for the welcome and worrying about leading me down the path of madness is kinda like stable door, horse, bolts, yada,yada etc,etc.

boodle good luck for tomorrow.

sunburn sorry don't know your history and I'm sure you're exploring every avenue but don't give up, it will happen. There's so many wonderful things that can be done nowadays and plenty of children that need love. That's a long way off for you though. Stay positive x

Cheepz they bleed you dry don't they! I am allergic to needles. I say I am, my veins rather. They go into hiding at the slightest mention of the word.
I've had it all- threats of violence from Doctors, Nurses, Consultants the lot! I've had 4 of them squeeeeeezing my arm whilst one smacked the back of my hand (for GA). One Nurse said she'd never seen veins so deep and threatened to cut my throat to get my blood, lucky for me her other idea of me holding a warm drink for 15 mins worked and brought them out a bit.
Even the most feared skilled Phlebotomist round our way, smiles without using her eyes and murmurs under her breath when she sees me.